Mike Conley? Why Not

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I can't see trading for a high priced point guard especially before the trade deadline. If the Suns can acquire a point guard for a second round pick like they did with Elfrid Payton I'd consider it.

I'm only throwing it out there but Elfrid Payton will be available as a free agent and he wouldn't mortgage the Suns future. It's hard to know what happened with the Suns before but perhaps things have changed. Anyway he is only an example of the type player the Suns could go after in free agency.

If the Suns can't draft Zion, I'd probably go after a point guard in the draft and sign a free agent point guard to start.
 

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You can keep telling yourself that, and yes, the chances are small, but they are the exact same as the other bottom 5 or 6 teams.
Just like a lottery ticket. Doesn’t make it a good investment.
 

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If the Suns get the right trade for Warren, I'd consider it.

However, the discussed trade for Conley is not the right trade.
I would trade Warren for the right deal. His trade value is decent right now.
 

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Well, but that's exactly the point. I am not sure which side I am on, but one side is basically saying that mediocrity right now is actually good. While Ayton, Bridges, Jackson, Melton, Okobo, Oubre and whoever else develop, let's be mediocre as opposed to terrible. The alternative, as they see it, is basically signing another Chandler, Ariza, or Dudley, and in the great scheme of things, so why not overpay for a stop-gap point guard that's available right now? You and I think they can sign someone like Collison and then pick up someone like Randle, Mirotic, etc, but I am guessing that pro-Conley folks don't think that's going to happen.

I think both sides have a good argument here, and I think there is merit to saying that we should grab a stop gap at any price because no other good player is coming here and it will be a couple of years before Ayton is really good, before Booker is outstanding, before we know exactly what we have in the three young wings and the two point guards. Essentially, why be terrible when you can be mediocre? Bird in hand (Conley) is worth two in the bush (Collison, Mirotic, Randle, etc.) Kemba goes back to Charlotte, Russel signs an extension with the Nets, Rubio returns to Utah, Pacers get Collison and Joseph back, Rozier gets a crazy offer elsewhere, and then what? Wsste your cap space on another Chandler or Ariza?

On the other hand, If you have that much money, overpay a safe player. Hell, I'd rather have Collison for two years at $15M/Per than Conley at $33M pear year. Sure, you are overpaying, but who cares if the alternative is paying someone else twice as much? I THINK I am with the "Go after Collins or Rubio, or whoever" crowd, with a caveat that to get them, you'll have to overpay significantly, which is fine. Ayton doesn't need extended for another three years, neither does Bridges. Booker is locked in for five years, they have Okobo locked in, I am guessing they'll lock on Homes and Oubre as well, so the only player who may need extending is JJ if he figures it out. Melton too, I suppose, but much like JJ, nobody is going to compete with the Suns for their services.

Additionally, what the hell do you do if you trade for Conley and THEN you get a chance to trade for a young point guard who may be the point guard of the future. Well, you have to either pay Conley to play backup and probably be unhappy in that role, or you suck it up and go with Conley. All that said though, I do see the logic in the other argument. Grab whoever you can get now who will be competent for a couple of years while others develop instead of risking not getting anything in free agency.

I understand it, just totally disagree with it.

The Suns strength as an organization right now is that they have some decent trade assets, likely will have another good lottery pick, and have cap flexibility in the near future. Giving up anything for Conley hurts that. The only way I would be OK with trading for Conley is if the Grizz threw some assets into the trade.

Maybe.....

Anderson + Warren

for

Conley, 2019 top 5 protected pick.
 

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I understand it, just totally disagree with it.

The Suns strength as an organization right now is that they have some decent trade assets, likely will have another good lottery pick, and have cap flexibility in the near future. Giving up anything for Conley hurts that. The only way I would be OK with trading for Conley is if the Grizz threw some assets into the trade.

Maybe.....

Anderson + Warren

for

Conley, 2019 top 5 protected pick.

Right, I agree. Even if someone is on the side of "Sure, trade for Conley so we are not awful next year", the cost of acquiring him should be a huge question mark. I would definitely not trade our own first-round pick, but I am certain Memphis would not trade theirs either. If they trade Conley, they are officially rebuilding. Rebuilding teams don't trade their picks, generally speaking anyway.

Really, the more I think about this, the more I go to the side of "Hell no. Just overpay someone else" group. I just don't see how someone like Collison or Rubio turn down HALF of what Conley is making. If we are overpaying anyway, Give one of those two $15M per year and be done with it. They'll have similar impact to Conley at half the price of Conley. I get that the Suns are not a FA destination right now, but they can afford to overpay a little.
 

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Markkanan, Portis. Maybe we can get Markkanan from them. Just wanted to point out that if the Suns don't get the number one pick they could still move up for it.

Barring a major injury to Zion I think this is pretty much as close to impossible as there is when talking about a future event. IMO the only way any team trades that number one will be to acquire a young but proven superstar such as Anthony Davis or Giannis. I don't even think a lottery team would seriously consider trading it for Durant or Curry or Harden or so on (for age and mileage reasons).
 

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John Wall would have made more sense than Conley. At least Wall won't be a member of AARP before his contract is up. He may need a walker but that's better than the mobility scooter that Conley will be riding on the sidelines. The money is similar but age is in Wall's favor. Why does anyone think Conley will help us more than he's helping Memphis currently? They're not a playoff team but without needing to pay him $32 million they'll have the chance to sign someone that we should be going for after, someone who will be productive throughout their contract. The only reason Conley is making as much as he is has to do with Memphis resigning him for that much because no other team in the league would have paid him that much. At least with Wall it's possible to believe another team would have made him a max offer. I know Wall's getting the super max but I'd still rather gamble paying him a little more to cover PG for the next 4 seasons than hoping and praying Conley can make it through the 2 years left on his deal and that the Suns have a plan for when that's up.
I'd rather not go after the guy who makes his team better when he doesn't play.
 
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