Mike Sando’s QB Tiers - The Athletic

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Great read, even if you don’t agree with where these guys are slotted (they have Lamar as a Tier 2).

Per the article, Kyler is considered the 14th best QB and a Tier 3 QB, but one of the Athletic’s highest ranked 2nd year QBs ever

Tier 1 votes: 1 | Tier 2: 19 |Tier 3: 25 | Tier 4: 5 | 2019 Tier: N/A

Very few quarterbacks coming off their rookie seasons have polled as well as Murray polled this year. Coaches and evaluators tend to use the fourth tier liberally for players with short track records. That contributed to artificially low ratings for Mahomes and Jackson entering their second seasons. Unlike those two, Murray started all 16 games as a rookie. Reviews were favorable.

“His movement and escapability drives defenses crazy and he throws the ball deep extremely well,” an offensive coordinator said

Murray is one of 17 quarterbacks drafted since 2013 to appear in Quarterback Tiers coming off their rookie seasons. Of those, only Prescott (2.52) and Baker Mayfield (2.53) polled higher than the 2.68 average for Murray this year. Murray, Prescott and Mayfield all ranked 14th at this stage.

“I like him because he is competitive, he is super accurate, he can run,” another offensive coordinator said. “The only problem for me, and I know this doesn’t skew into your quarterback evaluation, is that he is good when he runs the football, but when he does that too much, he can’t last.”

A defensive coordinator thought Murray would become more difficult to defend if he increased his willingness to take a few hits running the ball. Of course, that defensive coordinator would surely love for his linebackers and safeties to get in a few hard shots on the NFL’s smallest starting quarterback. Multiple defensive coaches used the phrase “pain in the ass” to describe what they thought Murray would become. There were some comparisons to Wilson, although the general feel was that Murray would always be the better runner, Wilson the better passer.

“I think the kid is going to be really good,” a defensive coach said. “He knows when to run, he knows when to pass, he does not turn the ball over much and that little joker can throw. They are going to be better. I’m not ready to give the kid Tier 2 yet, but I think he is a legitimate starter and he will jump fast.”

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Yeah and this isn't Sando stating this. These are the rankings of NFL Offensive and defensive coordinators
 

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"that little joker can throw"

He's already in the heads of NFL DC's... we've got a good one :koolaid:
 

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What's funny is I have a Bills homer who was fighting me tooth and nail over these rankings.

Kyler at 14 and Josh Allen at 22. BOTH are in tier three IIRC. It was maddening to me. haha
 

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When you can run around and make everyone miss you while being able to laser the ball anywhere on the field.

People who know what they talking about will take notice.

Kiem, please do not mess this up
 
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