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[MaoTosiFanClub]

As if that's the only other option??

Hey, Matty just might mature into a solid citizen and solid on-the-field leader. But then again, maybe he won't. Before they became stars, I honestly can't recall hearing about Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, or even Big Ben banging it the way Matty has chosen to do...


Sign your dam deal. Get your ass in camp and do the things great leaders do - then prove yourself on the field. If you do all that and choose to bang it with the "in" crowd - cool. Otherwise, you're nothing more than an hip Ryan Leaf at this point...

Is that you Stenbrenner? Brett Favre was a well-known drunk, even showing up intoxicated to practice when he was with the Falcons. And I recall video of him wasted on a balcony in New Orleans prior to the Super Bowl. Tom Brady was banging Tara Reid. Big Ben does his own stupid things, many of which are more damaging that drinking and even he has the "partier" reputation.

Why don't you just come out and say you don't like Leinart because of his affiliation to USC? Because it's pretty transparent to the rest of us.

 

[BigRedArk]

Did I miss something? Did Matty lead his team to 3 consecutive championships?? Guess that vision of him aimlessly running around with 2 minutes left in last years BCS Championship was only my imagination...

I should have said he led his team to the NCAA championship game two years in a row actually. He got his team either a share of or an outright championship two years in a row. He got his team in the running for the championship 3 years in a row. I should have been clearer about that.

 

[O]

Did I miss something? Did Matty lead his team to 3 consecutive championships?? Guess that vision of him aimlessly running around with 2 minutes left in last years BCS Championship was only my imagination...

37 and 2. Pretty impressive record for a non solid citizen

 

[Cheesebeef]

Did I miss something? Did Matty lead his team to 3 consecutive championships?? Guess that vision of him aimlessly running around with 2 minutes left in last years BCS Championship was only my imagination...

are you really intimating that Leinart and his 350 yards passing on 29/40, while leading USC to 38 points was the reason SC lost that game to Texas? Give me a break. There's some OBVIOUS bias against him from you for some reason and this is coming from a guy who HATES USC.

 

[Cheesebeef]

and how exactly is Matt not a solid citizen right now? I'm missing that one.

 

[O]

and how exactly is Matt not a solid citizen right now? I'm missing that one.

Curious readers really want to know?

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Sign your dam deal. Get your ass in camp and do the things great leaders do - Otherwise, you're nothing more than an hip Ryan Leaf at this point...

Funny you equte being a good leader and getting in camp on time bringing up Manning, Big Ben, and Favre as examples of such as Ryan Leaf as what Leinart is. However what you neglect to mention is that Peyton and Big Ben were TC holdouts while Leaf was in on time and Favre basically got ran out of Atlanta for being too much of headcase.

 

[D-Dogg]

Why are you calling him Matty all the time?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Why are you calling him Matty all the time?

I think he's got a man-crush on Matt and that's why he's so on top of him (or wishes he was) - jealousy is an ugly virtue 82!

 

[BigRedRage]

He hasn't thrown one NFL pass yet, and the dude gets more hype than any other player...
I also agree that it matters not what he does off the field, but what he does on it... But I really can't recall too many star QB's/leaders who bang with the type of crowd Matty Hollywood chooses to hang with.
I have my reservations about the "gift from heaven"... I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Cutler go on to have a better career than Matty Hollywood... guess we'll see... maybe...

theres several other players in the draft who overshadow theyr whole team when they havent played yet, its how the rookie deal goes, u should know this

 

[BigRedRage]

As if that's the only other option??

Hey, Matty just might mature into a solid citizen and solid on-the-field leader. But then again, maybe he won't. Before they became stars, I honestly can't recall hearing about Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, or even Big Ben banging it the way Matty has chosen to do...
Sign your dam deal. Get your ass in camp and do the things great leaders do - then prove yourself on the field. If you do all that and choose to bang it with the "in" crowd - cool. Otherwise, you're nothing more than an hip Ryan Leaf at this point...

someones jealous = )

 

[82CardsGrad]

Jeeez... the man-love here for a celebrated college QB is frightening!

I simply refuse to get down on my knees and praise a kid who has done squat for my team. I also need to see Matt (is that more appropriate for you guys?), show that he can produce W's in the NFL. Frankly, what I saw of him in college was impressive. However, he is not without faults.. IMO, for a guy his size, he has a weak arm. I want to see him thread the 15-20 yarders between defenders. I want to see him nail Q or Fitz on the 15 yard out. I have my doubts...
IMO, he wasn't going to play all that much this year anyway. If he did, all that would mean is that the season was a wash. So the holdout from that perspective is meaningless.
Leinart comes into the NFL with more hype and expectation than anyone I can ever recall. And most others who draw that much expectation, never fully realize the perceived promise...
I would mush prefer that he simply get his ass into camp, begin his mentorship under one of the best teachers in the game today (KW), and start the process of him one day taking over this team.

You guys can continue to smoke the Leinart dope all you want. As for me - I want shower one bit of praise on the kid until he shows me he is worthy of such... Thus far, he is done nothing in that direction...

 

[Duckjake]

Did I miss something? Did Matty lead his team to 3 consecutive championships?? Guess that vision of him aimlessly running around with 2 minutes left in last years BCS Championship was only my imagination...

Just what this board needs. Kerouac9 on steroids.

 

[BigRedRage]

i got no man love for lienart nor do i hate him, he is who he is and i hope he is the future of our team.

the only thing i dont like is that i have to watch rohan davy play half a game for us when he wont even be on our roster come september

 

[82CardsGrad]

i got no man love for lienart nor do i hate him, he is who he is and i hope he is the future of our team.

the only thing i dont like is that i have to watch rohan davy play half a game for us when he wont even be on our roster come september

Agree... I really don't believe I've said much different... But the Leinart-lackees here seemed to get pretty worked up just because I refuse to smoke his dope... Oh well...

 

[82CardsGrad]

Just what this board needs. Kerouac9 on steroids.

'roids?? No way man... someone must have rubbed that crap on me!

 

[O]

I'm more curious about the "solid citizen" thing.
Come on 82, inquiring minds want to know.

Why is Matt not a solid citizen?
Hmmmm?

 

[BigRedArk]

I also need to see Matt (is that more appropriate for you guys?), show that he can produce W's in the NFL. Frankly, what I saw of him in college was impressive. However, he is not without faults.. IMO, for a guy his size, he has a weak arm. I want to see him thread the 15-20 yarders between defenders. I want to see him nail Q or Fitz on the 15 yard out. I have my doubts...

All players have faults, including your boy Cutler.

IMO, he wasn't going to play all that much this year anyway. If he did, all that would mean is that the season was a wash. So the holdout from that perspective is meaningless.

Oh so you know what is going to happen and what is not going to happen this coming year do you?

Leinart comes into the NFL with more hype and expectation than anyone I can ever recall. And most others who draw that much expectation, never fully realize the perceived promise...
I would mush prefer that he simply get his ass into camp, begin his mentorship under one of the best teachers in the game today (KW), and start the process of him one day taking over this team.

You confuse hype with respect and praise for what he has done in the past perhaps? I want him in camp also. You aren't the only one with that wish. Maybe the old man is trying to lowball his potential QBOTF and wants to push him to see how cheaply he can get him? This holdout is all ML's fault is it?

You guys can continue to smoke the Leinart dope all you want. As for me - I want shower one bit of praise on the kid until he shows me he is worthy of such... Thus far, he is done nothing in that direction...

All's we can do at this point is base our hopes and expectations on what he has done in the past, since he is a Rookie and hasn't seen any action yet wouldn't you agree? Sounds like instead of smoking the ML dope you are toking on Cutler herb???

 

[82CardsGrad]

I'm more curious about the "solid citizen" thing.
Come on 82, inquiring minds want to know.

Why is Matt not a solid citizen?
Hmmmm?

O - ligthen up dude... IMO, there really aren't many freshly minted college grads who would qualify as solid citizens. No fault of their own mind you. But they simply are not yet able to contribute to society in a way that others can. When I made that comment by the way, it was not intended to be a slam on Matt. You seem to be a bit overly sensitive to this comment however... why?
Hey - Matt graduated college. That's a very noteworthy achievement. He has not gone the route of some and fallen pray to drugs or otherwise run afoul with the law. He seems respectful to his parents and to others in authority. That's all terrific. But honestly, have we lowered our standards such that kids who do what millions of others do and have done, by simply traveling a a normal and decent road, are now to be held up on some sort of pedestal?
Matt, like many others who have come out of school and who have matured into solid citizens, will need time. That's all I meant by the comment. Right now, he is simply a college grad who bought a lotto ticket and is looking to hit the Powerball. Is that a solid citizen in your opinion??

 

[82CardsGrad]

All's we can do at this point is base our hopes and expectations on what he has done in the past, since he is a Rookie and hasn't seen any action yet wouldn't you agree? Sounds like instead of smoking the ML dope you are toking on Cutler herb???

Cutler herb is much more pure brotha!!!

I will say this AGAIN... I hope I'm wrong about Leinart. I hope he at minimum performs at 50% of the expectation level that has been set for the kid. For if he does, it will mean good things for the Cards... I simply have my doubts is all. And for those who may have seen my posts over at the azcards board, they would know that I have been talking Leinart down since before the draft. This is nothing new with me...
And AGAIN - I really hope I'm wrong about this - but it would not surprise me at all if 5 years from now, Mr. Cutler has out-performed Leinart...

 

[Renz]

that's just it, none of them, really except Peyton were stars in college - whereas Matt has been THE superstar in college football for the last two years, in the entertainment capital of the world. Of course he's gonna get more run, but it NEVER hurt his game on the field. Even in the loss to Texas, it was USC's pathetic D that failed them, not Matt's sterling performance.

The guy's GOING to be a stud - he's a tireless worker, a student of the game and more than anything a GAMER. The beating he took from ASU last year didn't faze him as he led them back from a 21 point deficit and even when he struggled against ND, getting whacked around, he still gutted up for the biggest play of his life on 4th and 12, nailing Jarrett with the PERFECT audible/pass.

Agree 100%. Leinart's gonna be a great one. 5 years from now we are going to be down on our knees and thanking the football gods that Matt is a Cardinal.

IMO, the people who dislike him are motivated by envy, hatred of USC, or the Cardinals or a combination of the above.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

As if that's the only other option??

Hey, Matty just might mature into a solid citizen and solid on-the-field leader. But then again, maybe he won't. Before they became stars, I honestly can't recall hearing about Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, or even Big Ben banging it the way Matty has chosen to do...
Sign your dam deal. Get your ass in camp and do the things great leaders do - then prove yourself on the field. If you do all that and choose to bang it with the "in" crowd - cool. Otherwise, you're nothing more than an hip Ryan Leaf at this point...

brett favre was a notorious rabble rouser. alcoholic. never studied his playbook. big time partier. not serious until he got to green bay, and even then it took him some time to simmer down. bad comparison. in fact, PERFECT comparison. favre was prolly WORSE than matt.

 

[Russ Smith]

Because Matty Hollywood is Matty Hollywood for a reason... He digs the Paris Hilton and Nick Lechey crowds... Unless he changes his ways and with whom he hangs, I believe we will see more pix like the one of Matty leaving Paris's home early in the morning carryng his clothes...
Doesn't mean he won't perform on the field (although I have my doubts there as well), but as far for the "drama" bit - get used to it...

Didn't matter with joe Namath, hasn't mattered with Tom Brady(dating Bridget Moynihan).

I don't really think Matt's sex life concerns the Cards, they just want his butt signed and on the practice field during camp, what and who he does after hours is not a big deal.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Didn't matter with joe Namath, hasn't mattered with Tom Brady(dating Bridget Moynihan).

I don't really think Matt's sex life concerns the Cards, they just want his butt signed and on the practice field during camp, what and who he does after hours is not a big deal.

Man... this is frustrating... I'll simple leave it at this... For all you guys who continue to toss up names of other QB's who have dabbled in off the field adventures - the difference is that they were never hyped anywhere close to Matt, and they went on to accomplish great things.
For now, Matt has a tremendous amout of expectation to reach. Sure, what he does off the field means squat. I agree with that! But since he is not yet signed, and has not done a dam thing on an NFL field, what he does on and off the field will be up for debate and discussion.
Right now - the combination of his Hollywood lifestyle and his hold out does not play well for Matty... He already had HUGE, probably unrealistic expectations to hit prior to the draft, placing a great amount of pressure on his shoulders. I believe he is only adding to that pressure...
Time will tell and again, I hope I'm wrong - but I see Cutler going to out-perform Matt, and another Brady (Quinn that is), coming out next year and eventually surpassing both Leinart and Culter!

 

[O]

O - ligthen up dude... IMO, there really aren't many freshly minted college grads who would qualify as solid citizens. No fault of their own mind you. But they simply are not yet able to contribute to society in a way that others can. When I made that comment by the way, it was not intended to be a slam on Matt. You seem to be a bit overly sensitive to this comment however... why?
Hey - Matt graduated college. That's a very noteworthy achievement. He has not gone the route of some and fallen pray to drugs or otherwise run afoul with the law. He seems respectful to his parents and to others in authority. That's all terrific. But honestly, have we lowered our standards such that kids who do what millions of others do and have done, by simply traveling a a normal and decent road, are now to be held up on some sort of pedestal?
Matt, like many others who have come out of school and who have matured into solid citizens, will need time. That's all I meant by the comment. Right now, he is simply a college grad who bought a lotto ticket and is looking to hit the Powerball. Is that a solid citizen in your opinion??

WOW!

Perhaps you should lighten up and relax a little bit.
I don't put anybody on a pedestal, never have and never will.
You on the other hand degrade people simply for the company they keep, Paris Hilton and Nick Lechey, ooh, the scourge of civilazation.
Look at some of the punks that enter the NFL. Shall we do a compariison?
The man, yes man, grew up playing for the LA areas equilivent of an NFL team. With more distractions and opportunities to go astray then you or I could possibly begin to imagine.
"He bought a lottery ticket".,yeah and he went 37 and 2. You don't do that without being somewhat of a "solid citizen" especially in LA ,the media capitol of the world.
Matt after he signs his contract will pay more in taxes then you and I combined make in a year.
Does that make him a solid citizen?


Perhaps if he was photographed coming out of a Young Republicans meeting you would change your mind.