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1. Here's my response to a post John the Draft Guy wrote today on azcardinals.com where he blames Steve Keim and his poor drafts for the team's woes:

JTDG---

As they say on ESPN: "C'mon, Man!"

Steve Keim has been far more a part of the solution than the problem.

His first big move was to hire BA...and allowed BA to make an unprecedented number of coaching hires.

Then, he made brilliant trades for Carson Palmer and Chandler Jones.

He has re-signed the CORE players (Fitzgerald, Palmer, Mathieu, Peterson, Bethel)---he has brought in quality FAs at bargain salaries (Veldheer, Iupati, C. Johnson, Rucker, Gresham, Abraham, Freeney, Dansby, Cromartie) and he has drafted some flat-out gems in Tyrann Mathieu, David Johnson, John Brown and Deone Bucannon, and he has fortified the roster with very good UCFA finds such as Tony Jefferson, Jaron Brown and Chandler Catanzaro.

Rookies are finding it hard to get playing time because the roster is so deep---because of Steve Keim.

If Keim has a flaw, perhaps it is listening too closely at times to the coaches---

* they told him that Justin Bethel would be fine as the starting CB and would be much improved this year---BA has always raved about Bethel's physical talents.
* they told him that re-signing Drew Stanton was a high priority.
* they suggested that he draft Logan Thomas.

Keim does not have a crystal ball (who does?)---thus your comments are aided and abetted by hindsight.

Plus---so much depends on how well the coaches develop the players. Playing for BA is no walk in the park. He takes some getting used to---and he is loath to play any rookies if he can help it otherwise.

Furthermore, Keim, like everyone else in the organization, has had a fair share of bad luck---an ACL for Carson Palmer---2 ACL's for Tyrann Mathieu---a rookie season ending leg fracture for Jonathan Cooper who was really coming on at the time---the injury to Drew Stanton when Palmer was already lost for the season. Nkemdiche has been battling leg injuries from day one of TC.

Just thew same, Steve Keim does make excuses for the team or anyone associated with it---and he is completely honest with himself. He is going to prevail---he's too diligent and passionate not to.

It wouldn't surprise me if Keim makes a bold move in the next week or two to try to give the team a much needed spark.

it also wouldn't surprise me if Keim puts his foot down and forces BA to make changes to his staff and to the roster.

2. Happy Birthday, BA! Despite this difficult start, I still love ya, big guy! I admire your patience the past two weeks with the team---and I hope you can light a fire under this team and get them having fun and playing good, winning football once again.

3. It's time to move Tyrann Mathieu up to the box---start D.J. Swearinger at FS---he will at least be a hard-hitting enforcer over the middle as he was in the Green Bay rout last year.

So, what does one do if the team's two best tacklers (Mathieu and Jefferson) are both strong safeties?

Why not dabble occasionally in a 5-3?---take Minter out---run gap control with the front five to keep ILB Deone Bucannon free---and have Jefferson and Mathieu on opposite sides where they have built in blitz and cover options and the ability to solve one of the defense's biggest weaknesses which is giving up contain to QBs, RBs and WRs and easy flat passes to the RBs.

if not that, why not try Jefferson in Minter's spot and move Tyrann Mathieu over to SS?---Jefferson is a better tackler and cover man. They key is having the front 5 occupy the o-line so that the ILBers can be free to flow to the ball. Jefferson shoots the gaps very well and he's instinctive.

4. It's time to abandon the zone coverages on 3rd downs---first of all, Bettcher doesn't even disguise the zone---which is why average passers have known right away where to go with the football. The Cardinals are giving it away pre-snap. Here the Cardinals are at home giving up 6/10 3rd down conversions to Jimmy G. and 6/13 to C. Keenum. The Cardinals are lousy zone players---they lack the safeties to make it work and they look like they have never been taught the man and help principals within the zone

5. It wouldn't be a surprise if Carson Plamer plays Thursday night after all. You just know he will be champing at the bit and if his concussion isn't that bad he will want to make his case.

6. A decision needs to be made about Justin Bethel. Did anyone else notice how he was favoring his foot last night? He still just isn't right. Plus, despite getting poked in the eye, it isn't like him to just quit on a play, especially a play with so much at stake late in the game.

7. Time to give Harold Simon a look at CB or in Tyvon Branch's role.

8. I was thinking it would be good to sign RB Kerwynn Williams---you know for all the talk about Stepfan Taylor on STs, when was the last time he made a big tackle on STs? Sure could have used him yesterday. But, I would also like to see RB Elijhaa Penny---we need a RB who will lower his shoulder and punish tacklers. That's not really DJ's thing--bit it is Penny's. This team needs a boost from some of the young talent.

9. Will the Cardinals take exception to what the Rams did to them? Will they pack a punch this week or pack it in? We will know a lot about the mettle of this team come Thursday night.

10. I hope BA holds a players only meeting with just him and them---let them tell him what it is going to take. BA loves giving the players some ownership---I think the players have the answers BA needs and could help make the changes that sway their fortunes back in the right direction.
 
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The only issue I have with Keim's drafts or any Cardinal drafts in the last few years has been the inability to draft quality olinemen in the 1st round. Graves drafted Levi "Turnstile" Brown. He sucked. Keim has drafted Cooper who did not pan put and was shipped to New England. Followed that up by drafting Humphries. Jury still out on Humphries but so far I am not seeing much progress.
 

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10. I hope BA holds a players only meeting with just him and them---let them tell him what it is going to take. BA loves giving the players some ownership---I think the players have the answers BA needs and could help make the changes that sway their fortunes back in the right direction.

Thats an oxymoron. Players only meeting....with the head coach.

and secondly, no. Dont let the players voice anything. They are the ones screwing this up. Dont let them have any power to shrug responsibility. If BA does hold a meeting, it needs to be him ripping into them for 90 minutes and then leaving.

Im not thrilled with the play calling, but its not the reason we are 1-3. Players miss tackles and drop balls, not coaches.
 
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Thats an oxymoron. Players only meeting....with the head coach.

and secondly, no. Dont let the players voice anything. They are the ones screwing this up. Dont let them have any power to shrug responsibility. If BA does hold a meeting, it needs to be him ripping into them for 90 minutes and then leaving.

I mean players only with the coach---sorry if that bothered you so much.

BA is playing this very smart---the LAST thing he should do right now is yell at the players. Like he implored them to do last night was "stick together." If there is a time when the players need to express their thoughts to the head coach---then this is about as good as any time can get.
 
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The only issue I have with Keim's drafts or any Cardinal drafts in the last few years has been the inability to draft quality olinemen in the 1st round. Graves drafted Levi "Turnstile" Brown. He sucked. Keim has drafted Cooper who did not pan put and was shipped to New England. Followed that up by drafting Humphries. Jury still out on Humphries but so far I am not seeing much progress.

Cooper's talent was undeniable---even the Patriots can see that. The injuries changed everything.

Maybe I'm one of the few, but I like Humphries a lot. If he continues at this pace, he will be head and shoulders better than Massie ever was. Plus, I like that he can play LT as well.
 

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On Palmer it unfortunately won't be up to him he's in the concussion protocol I assume and I'm not sure if there's enough time to clear him he has to almost be ok today for them to have enough time to get him cleared for Thur so I'm pretty much assuming he won't play.

Add in the NFL is still looking into whether the panthers violated the NFL concussion rules in the first game by not pulling Newton, and the refs missed it, and I'm betting it's very unlikely Palmer is cleared.
 

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I mean players only with the coach---sorry if that bothered you so much.

It doesnt bother me, im just trying to figure out why youre trying to make it special.

A meeting with players + the coach is just called "a meeting"

Players only literally means ONLY players.
 
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It doesnt bother me, im just trying to figure out why youre trying to make it special.

A meeting with players + the coach is just called "a meeting"

Players only literally means ONLY players.

I was trying to suggest that having just BA with the players that the players could express their frustrations with some of the coaches. I am a big believer in that most dysfunction is the result of poor communication and disgruntlement amongst certain members of the group.
 

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I really like your ideas Mitch.

I cannot agree strongly enough with the issue that we seem to not have the right personnel for our defensive scheme - although our roster is good. Last year, we signed Weatherspoon to be a starter, he got injured during TC and Buc took his spot - no big deal but he still ended up playing 20% of downs - almost exclusively 3rd down passing situations because Minter shouldn't be in there - and he did well in that capacity. Who did we sign to replace him? No one (and I don't care what you say about G Martin or they would have him subbing out Minter right now).

Our SS shouldn't be the leading tackler - so something is wrong. We should be rotating our DLine, instead we have our two ILB, Campbell & Jones getting 95% of the snap count and we complain about the lack of pressure.

I foolishly thought Branch was supposed to be the FS, instead they are using him in coverage and our worst FS at FA, the Honey Badger in a role he isn't built for, he is quick, not fast. Swearinger or Branch SHOULD be the FS, rotating based on play call, and HB should be used situationally and bringing him along slowly until he is 100%

BTW, I think they did run 5-3 once or twice yesterday with Jones on the interior plus two DL with both Okafer and Golden - I may be wrong about the 2 DL though (I hope not, I was happy to see them actually moving Jones around finally)
 

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2 things. Simon did get some snaps I believe. Swearinger is a backup because he was doing his own thing. That isn't what you want at FS.
 
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2 things. Simon did get some snaps I believe. Swearinger is a backup because he was doing his own thing. That isn't what you want at FS.

If Swearinger was doing his own thing---why then did they cut Marqui Christian?

All i could think of during the Tavon Austin return was boy how we need a tackler like Christian on STs. I am still completely mystified as to why he wasn't activated to play STs and why he was gift-wrapped for the Rams. The Rams put emphasis on hitting and tackling---don't they?
 

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If Swearinger was doing his own thing---why then did they cut Marqui Christian?

All i could think of during the Tavon Austin return was boy how we need a tackler like Christian on STs. I am still completely mystified as to why he wasn't activated to play STs and why he was gift-wrapped for the Rams. The Rams put emphasis on hitting and tackling---don't they?

Oh the poor angles many took on that return. Agree on Christian. Real bad move thinking they could get him to the PS.
 

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Bethel is soft, mentally and physically.

They should have never paid him as a CB, he is 100% a special teams guy and nothing more.

We lost the game because of an eye poke...............nuff said.
 

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4. It's time to abandon the zone coverages on 3rd downs---first of all, Bettcher doesn't even disguise the zone---which is why average passers have known right away where to go with the football. The Cardinals are giving it away pre-snap. Here the Cardinals are at home giving up 6/10 3rd down conversions to Jimmy G. and 6/13 to C. Keenum. The Cardinals are lousy zone players---they lack the safeties to make it work and they look like they have never been taught the man and help principals within the zone

This was driving me crazy. This is a pressure D that isn't applying pressure well enough. We were able to control the LOS better this week,but we need to strike a balance between stopping the run and getting pressure. I think they were very concerned about Gurley going off again on them.
 

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5. It wouldn't be a surprise if Carson Plamer plays Thursday night after all. You just know he will be champing at the bit and if his concussion isn't that bad he will want to make his case.

Yikes. You're a high school football coach?
 

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Mitch, you were right about both Palmer maybe playing Thursday and resigning Kerwynn, both mentioned by BA today
 

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If Swearinger was doing his own thing---why then did they cut Marqui Christian?

All i could think of during the Tavon Austin return was boy how we need a tackler like Christian on STs. I am still completely mystified as to why he wasn't activated to play STs and why he was gift-wrapped for the Rams. The Rams put emphasis on hitting and tackling---don't they?

...because they have Mathieu, Jefferson, Branch, and Swearinger on the defense already. Branch got playing time in spite of Swearinger. This was because Swearinger was/is an undisciplined player at S.
 

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...because they have Mathieu, Jefferson, Branch, and Swearinger on the defense already. Branch got playing time in spite of Swearinger. This was because Swearinger was/is an undisciplined player at S. Christain was cut because he wasn't as good as Swearinger. Better to have a player who can at least function in the defense vs one who can't.
 

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6. A decision needs to be made about Justin Bethel. Plus, despite getting poked in the eye, it isn't like him to just quit on a play, especially a play with so much at stake late in the game.

He quit on the Aaron Rogers Hail Mary #1 of 2 in the playoff game. Just plain stopped running for no reason. Always loved Bethel, but I gotta go with Rugby, he's looking to be soft.
 

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He quit on the Aaron Rogers Hail Mary #1 of 2 in the playoff game. Just plain stopped running for no reason. Always loved Bethel, but I gotta go with Rugby, he's looking to be soft.


It was weird but you have to admit on a play where they got a penalty for momah grabbing the facemask it's just plain bad luck that their guy reached inside Bethel's facemask poked him in the eye and it didn't get a flag. Bethel said he got pulled down, I don't quite buy that I think the poke hurt and he went down because of that, but it's still supposed to be a flag.

Even Tavon Austin said it was the key to the whole thing he said when Bethel fell down it opened up that entire side of the field.

I don't think he's a starting CB been saying that all along, but I do think there should have been a penalty on the Rams on that play.
 

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2 things. Simon did get some snaps I believe. Swearinger is a backup because he was doing his own thing. That isn't what you want at FS.
Yes, Simon was in on the long TD, where Branch went for the ball amd whiffed...Jefferson was there, too...Simon was trailing that play.

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