More fuel for the fire for all of you that just cant get over this!

[Cheesebeef]

Why did I bring it up? Because there was nationally written news article about it and it has always been a hot topic around here. Thus relevant.

We are in the the SB and even if we win it I could totally see someone on here next year when Peterson rips off 150 and 3 scores making a thread saying "Adrian Peterson is a monster oh what could have been" etc..etc...

Which IMHO would be asinine considering we would be SB champs and in the ultimate team sport obviously made the right choices.

i've said this many times. no one's gonna write that crap because there won't be enough time to do so. get your fill of rubber-less sex, do whatever drugs you might have ever been curious about, tell those you secretly hate that you hate them and tell those you secretly love you love them, because come Sunday, when those digits all reach 00:00 and the Cardinals win the Super Bowl, the world comes to an end.

SUPER RED BEARD FOR THE SUPER RED BIRDS IN THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!!!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

And Cards with AP wouldn't be in the Super Bowl? You can't say that for sure. That argument is flawed. Maybe with whoever else we had ended up starting at RT this year would have done as well or better? I will say however that had we not drafted Levi last year and it had caused us to draft a tackle this year instead of DRC then AP isn't worth it.

DRC+Levi >>>> AP+OT?

I said that we are in the SB with Levi, and Minn is not with AP. I'm hard pressed to see a flaw in an argument based on a reality we all share, and not a hypothetical.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And Cards with AP wouldn't be in the Super Bowl? You can't say that for sure. That argument is flawed. Maybe with whoever else we had ended up starting at RT this year would have done as well or better? I will say however that had we not drafted Levi last year and it had caused us to draft a tackle this year instead of DRC then AP isn't worth it.

DRC+Levi >>>> AP+OT?

uh, maybe more logically it would have resulted in us taking an tackle in the second round instead of say trading a 4th to move up and draft branch. if that's the case, then passing on AP was an EVEN WORSE move than we all believed it to be.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Best post by a Steelers fan on this board in the last two weeks!!!

But it was such an easy, easy pick.

And our offense would have been sick with Peterson. Just sick.

Oh God, I think I'm going be sick just thinking about it.

 

[Spielman]

At least you're arguing over a draft mistake that netted you a pretty good starting right tackle, and not a draft mistake that netted you Kelly Stouffer.

 

[DoTheDew]

I said that we are in the SB with Levi, and Minn is not with AP. I'm hard pressed to see a flaw in an argument based on a reality we all share, and not a hypothetical.

It is flawed because you can't say for sure whether we would be better or worse off had we done things the other way. Yes we made the SB, but the fallacy in your argument is that it implies we wouldn't have otherwise when that can't be known for sure.

 

[DoTheDew]

uh, maybe more logically it would have resulted in us taking an tackle in the second round instead of say trading a 4th to move up and draft branch. if that's the case, then passing on AP was an EVEN WORSE move than we all believed it to be.

I would hope that would be the case, however I think they had Branch targetted all along.

 

[Shane]

It is flawed because you can't say for sure whether we would be better or worse off had we done things the other way. Yes we made the SB, but the fallacy in your argument is that it implies we wouldn't have otherwise when that can't be known for sure.

Its not flawed. Because while we cant guarantee that we wouldnt be here in the other scenario. We CAN GUARANTEE we are here under the current one and thats really all that matters.

 

[DoTheDew]

You are showing the EXACT problem you have when you draft for need instead of the best available player. Imagine if we didn't do that with Fitzgerald because we already had Boldin....

I say FA is for need, draft is for BPA. There is almost always at least adequate talent at most positions in FA except perhaps the major skill positions. If money is managed wisely and the team can do a good job getting the players they target in FA, there won't be any major needs come draft time.

I think we will see evidence of that this year, when after making a SB run, we will be much higher on FA's lists, and might even get players at a slight discount who fill holes. If the perception is that you are going to be making the playoffs, you take a slightly smaller contract and make up for it with the extra incentives and playoff money you earn IMO.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

It is flawed because you can't say for sure whether we would be better or worse off had we done things the other way. Yes we made the SB, but the fallacy in your argument is that it implies we wouldn't have otherwise when that can't be known for sure.

Well, I can live with your interpretation of a fallacy based on a known reality, rather than a so-called truth based on a pure hypothetical.

 

[Cheesebeef]

why would you bring this up to the board again Shane and try to part the RED SEA OF FANS!? We've had like 3 weeks of total bliss where the only people we're arguing with is opposing fans and yet here we are, with a completely divisive thread aimed at... OURSELVES!

 

[Shane]

why would you bring this up to the board again Shane and try to part the RED SEA OF FANS!? We've had like 3 weeks of total bliss where the only people we're arguing with is opposing fans and yet here we are, with a completely divisive thread aimed at... OURSELVES!

Differing of opinions is what makes this place great! Its like old times

 

[Ryanwb]

why would you bring this up to the board again Shane and try to part the RED SEA OF FANS!? We've had like 3 weeks of total bliss where the only people we're arguing with is opposing fans and yet here we are, with a completely divisive thread aimed at... OURSELVES!

Yeah! This would be the first post of the off season if the team went 5-11 this year

 

[Cheesebeef]

Differing of opinions is what makes this place great! Its like old times

dude, if you remember... old times SUCKED. NEW TIMES ROCK! Stop being a rabble rouser with our own kind! Rabble rouse the Steeler schmucks all over the place! I mean, come on Shane, you're an officer of the law! You're job it to serve and protect! not post and inflame! Do your duty son!

 

[conraddobler]

I think just moving on is the proper thing to do.

It's over and we can't change it now.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

a pretty good starting right tackle,

this is revisionist history. though he's clearly played better during the playoffs, he still leaves a lot to be desired, and at least imo, hasn't yet risen to the level that you describe.

 

[jefftheshark]

Well, I can live with your interpretation of a fallacy based on a known reality, rather than a so-called truth based on a pure hypothetical.

Wasn't this an episode of "Lost"?

Differing of opinions is what makes this place great! Its like old times

Except when you disagree with me.

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Anyway, for what it's worth, here are the correct answers to the blame game: Peterson's not here because of Edge & Levi's here because Leonard Davis was a bust as a Cardinal.

JTS

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Wasn't this an episode of "Lost"?



Except when you disagree with me.

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Anyway, for what it's worth, here are the correct answers to the blame game: Peterson's not here because of Edge & Levi's here because Leonard Davis was a bust as a Cardinal.

JTS

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I would hope that would be the case, however I think they had Branch targetted all along.

if the braintrust reached for a tackle with the 5th pick, they surely would have been inclined to go tackle again with the 2nd rounder.