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I don't like the offers im hearing but this FoxSports article that was posted a few minutes ago is pretty good. If there is a way to get a deal like this done the Cardinals should do it. Boldin is a very good reciever but Moss is a top flight, game changing home run WR which the Cardinals haven't had since Roy Green. Fitz, Moss, and B.Johnson would be a deadly combination. Heres the story:

Will the Vikings look to move Moss?
FOXSports.com
Posted: 2 minutes ago

Randy Moss' act in Minnesota is getting old and it's time for the Vikings to ship him out of town. At least that's the noise coming from both major papers in the Twin Cities.

Moss, who essentially missed five games this season with a hamstring injury, finished the year with 49 catches for 767 yards and 13 touchdowns. But his production was overshadowed by his controversial actions, like the well-documented "mooning" in Green Bay as well as his decision leave the game against Washington when there were still two seconds left on the clock.
Actions like those, as well as issues from his past in Minnesota, have opened up the rumor mill in the Twin Cities and have led many to wonder if Moss is worth all the trouble that follows him.

Leading up to, and then following, the Vikings' season-ending loss to the Eagles on Sunday, a game in which Moss had as many drops (three) as he did receptions, sports writers from the Star Tribune and the St. Paul Pioneer Press speculated how the Vikings might deal with Moss this off-season.

They also looked at possible ways the Vikings might be able to ship him out of town.

"Like every NFL team, the Vikings hold a series of personnel meetings before developing an off-season plan for improving the roster," Kevin Seifert wrote in Saturday's Tribune. "For seven years, their fundamental starting point was always the same: building around Moss, their once-in-a-lifetime receiving talent. Now, after a two-week stretch in which Moss has embarrassed the organization countless times, that position might change.

"While the odds remain that Moss will return in 2005, there are highly placed members of the organization who are exasperated with him. At the very least, they plan to initiate a substantive internal discussion about Moss and his future with the franchise this off-season."

Bob Sansevere suggested in Monday's Pioneer Press that the Vikings start looking around the league to find a team that might want to make a trade for Moss.

"It's time to put out feelers and see what Moss could bring in a trade," Sansevere said. "Every team still in the playoffs has a defense capable of shutting down offenses; when was the last time you could say that about a Vikings defense?"

Sansevere speculated that the Vikings might want to contact Arizona, whose head coach, Denny Green, was in charge of the Vikings when they drafted Moss out of college.

"First on the phone list should be Arizona Cardinals coach Denny Green. The former Vikings coach has three players who could give the Vikings the kind of defense that would help them navigate deep into the postseason — end Bert Berry, who led the NFC with 14.5 sacks, strong safety Adrian Wilson and tackle Darnell Dockett.

"Green drafted Moss and always has believed you can outscore teams if you load up with offensive talent."

Moss has four years left of the eight-year, $75 million extension that he signed in 2001. He is set to earn $7.5 million next season. And while he is still one of the best receivers in the NFL, his whole package might be too much for the Vikings to deal with.
 
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"First on the phone list should be Arizona Cardinals coach Denny Green. The former Vikings coach has three players who could give the Vikings the kind of defense that would help them navigate deep into the postseason — end Bert Berry, who led the NFC with 14.5 sacks, strong safety Adrian Wilson and tackle Darnell Dockett."


Trade Dockett and Berry and Wilson for Moss?

Uhhhhhhhh....no.
 

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Please, no!! No!!! No!!!

Let's give up all our talent on defense for a receiver making $7.5M with attitude problems? I don't think so.

How about Duane Starks, Wendell Bryant, and Calvin Pace? Now we're talking, baby!! We'll even throw in Shaun King as a sweetner. They'll help them go deep into the playoffs.

And, by the way, those guys are all first round picks!!
 
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Scott MS said:
Please, no!! No!!! No!!!
Let's give up all our talent on defense for a receiving making $7.5M with attitude problems? I don't think so.

The offers the press are throwing out there would never happen...But realistically I can see Boldin, W.Bryant or C.Pace, and a pick for Moss.

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end Bert Berry, who led the NFC with 14.5 sacks, strong safety Adrian Wilson and tackle Darnell Dockett?

That is the cornerstone of the Cardinals defense...No way in hell would I do this in a million years. Moss is a gamebreaker but come on. Give up a high draft pick maybe but not your 3 best players on defense and your best overall player(Berry). This is a ludicrious idea...
 

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The offers the press are throwing out there would never happen...But realistically I can see Boldin, W.Bryant or C.Pace, and a pick for Moss.

Go Cards/ America!
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I would do that deal. Boldin, Wendell Bryant, and a 4th rounder (after we give the 3rd rounder for Henry).
 

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I don't think the suggestion is that we'd give up all 3 of those players, but that we would give up one, or two, of them in addition to something else.

But, even one of those three would be too many. Again, I'd give up future picks for Moss. I might even give up this year's #8 if that was the only thing we gave up. Screw helping the Vikings build a Super Bowl caliber defense with our proven players. Let them find their own. They are dealing from a position of weakness, we only take Moss off of their hands if it makes us title contenders. And, ripping apart our defense would be counterproductive to that.
 

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Why would we trade for Moss?? He is a expensive problem player. I thought Dennis Green left Minnesota on bad terms? Also if both teams made the playoffs we would have to play them. I say keep the recievers we have, build defence, a solid o-line, and a strong running game.
 

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Problem with Moss is that, if he is so special, why would the Vikings be trying to trade him? If I was Graves, I'd ask the Vikings "why do I want a player who can't stay on field when he's part of a fake field goal?"

The press is still valuing Moss based on what USED to do on the field. Reality is that his stock has gone way down and if Minnesota's looking to trade him, it's even lower.

After what we saw with Ricky Williams, this last summer, I don't think that any team will give Minnesota what they want. It's just too much to gamble on Moss. With an attitude like his, how would he deal with playing for a losing team like the Cardinals? Would he be cancer?
 

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Lets all put down the kool aid. Moss is a me player and yes he is a game breaker but with his attitude problems and being a cancer in the locker room, no thanks I'll pass on this trade.
 

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I think Green could keep him in check, but the cost wouldnt be worth it. We FINALLY have a semblance of a good defense and to take it apart would not be worth it. QB and RB, and CB are the most important needs to address.
 
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I think Green could keep him in check, but the cost wouldnt be worth it. We FINALLY have a semblance of a good defense and to take it apart would not be worth it. QB and RB, and CB are the most important needs to address.

I honestly feel if Moss leaves the Vikings via trade it will be to Arizona. With that said Dennis Green would not give up any of "his" young defensive studs for Moss. But Boldin (and his impending contract dispute) and a future draft pick can be had for Randy Moss-IMO. Especially when the Vikings will be at a disadvantage as they need to move him and the Cardinals don't truly need him but will glady take him. And with acquiring a mega star like Randy Moss the Cardinals will find themselves on national tv (and in the endzone ) a lot more in 2005!

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Even if Moss was a model citizen to give up any of those three for him considering the uncertainity of the QB position would be huge mistake. There may not be anybody worth a damn playing the QB position to take advantage of Moss let alone the WRs the team already has.
 

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Doc Cardinal said:
"First on the phone list should be Arizona Cardinals coach Denny Green. The former Vikings coach has three players who could give the Vikings the kind of defense that would help them navigate deep into the postseason — end Bert Berry, who led the NFC with 14.5 sacks, strong safety Adrian Wilson and tackle Darnell Dockett."


Trade Dockett and Berry and Wilson for Moss?

Uhhhhhhhh....no.

I wouldnt trade even one of those guys for Moss!!!!!
 

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Not to mention, we dont need 7.5 million tied up in another WR! If we are going to spend like that, give it to Boldin!
 

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Even with Moss dont keep your hopes up you will see Cards on national TV next year. You have got to win to play on national TV.
 

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Dansby, Dockett, Wilson, Berry, Boldin, Fitzgerald, Rackers.

Those are our UNTRADEABLES.

NO ONE GETS THEM. They're building blocks of the team. To trade one, no real matter who for, it will decrease the talent on the team.

Don't bring him in, it could hurt.

Vince56's phrase of the week: "Nomoss!"
 

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If Denny Green wants Moss is AZ, I'm all for it--but not for the talent we have here. Give them our first rounder and Fitz. They'd jump at that and we'd come out on top, IMO.
 

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Is there a way to let Green and the other Card suits know that if they made a trade like this, they'd lose fan support? Newspaper or something
 
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