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It worked pretty well with a DB back in the day named Roy Green who also had spot duty as a returner. Peterson has 4 punt returns of over 80 yards. He has no problems tracking and catching a ball over his shoulder on punts which is difficult. He is big and can break tackles. He is extremely fast. Kid is a football player. One cannot tell me he could not do serious damage to a defense as Fitz' #2. I know we need corners and he can be good one but man oh man, he could be a beast at the WR position. There is not one guy on the field with the Cards (except Hyphen coming in second) who gets me more excited with the ball in his hands than Peterson, yet he plays a position keeping the ball out of other's hands.
 

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Top shelf cornerback >>>>>>>>>> than a good WR. How'd Devin Hester work out as a WR, and that's a guy who WASN'T good at playing cornerback.

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Top shelf cornerback >>>>>>>>>> than a good WR. How'd Devin Hester work out as a WR, and that's a guy who WASN'T good at playing cornerback.

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This!
 
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I'm not crazy K9. Thanks for the thoughtful jab. I gave you Roy Green...you gave me Hester, I think Peterson is better than Hester or I would not have made the comment.
 
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what gets me is that when we do use him on the offense, it is usually for a single play...it is a gimmick play and the defense knows it is going right to him. I agree he can be a good CB, a very good CB...but allow him when he is young to play a few series a game at the WR position, he is a playmaker like Deon Sanders was and the more times a elite playmaker can touch the ball the better
 
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Hell f'n no!
 

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Fans who want to change the positions of excelling professional football players = :doi:


You are ignoring the grand ASFN tradition of compulsive position switching

At any point during any year, there are at least five of the starting 22 who we believe belong at a different position.
 

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I'm not crazy K9. Thanks for the thoughtful jab. I gave you Roy Green...you gave me Hester, I think Peterson is better than Hester or I would not have made the comment.

Yeah but the difference was Roy wasn't a really good young CB he had talent but he wasn't starting. The Cards moved him because they needed a WR and wanted to get his speed on the field more. Plus he had apparently always wanted to play WR and volunteered to do so when they had a need.

Sure worked out.

Peterson is already our best CB so moving him seems iffy to me.
 

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And leave our starting cb's as Marshall and Jefferson? Toler and either of these guys doesn't cut it for me either. Just let PP play an occassional snap from scrimmage.
 

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I would line him up 3 or 4 times a game at WR that is all.
 

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While were at it fits would make a killer safety he would avg 2 picks a game let's do it!
 
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Top shelf cornerback >>>>>>>>>> than a good WR. How'd Devin Hester work out as a WR, and that's a guy who WASN'T good at playing cornerback.

Fans who want to change the positions of excelling professional football players = :doi:

Was going to say this myself, but you already did. IMO a shut-down corner > than a great WR. Everyone from High School on up through college is working on the offensive game, and there's tons of WR's coming out, and most are huge and quick. There are few shutdown corners, and that's why when you hear of one you hear of him. Hell, a shut-down corner, a HOF corner, is harder to find than a great HOF WR. By far. You can name the true shut-downs of the past few decades without even thinking, and without even using your other hand. By contrast, look at the dude this weekend, made probably the most athletic spectacular touchdown I've ever seen. Does a full 360 over a defender and lands in the end zone on his feet. That's freaking amazing. Anyone think he's going to the HOF? Look him up, I don't think so. A great corner is much harder to judge, in the HOF or anywhere else, because most of their plays are broken passes, deflections, and good coverage (to where the ball never even comes his way). You can't judge that or rate it. It's pure awesomeness and I'd rather have a true HOF corner and I think Peterson can be that.
 

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I wish I were a better devil's advocate, but here we go anyway:

Assumptions:
Peterson has the physical talent to be an above-average WR.
The NFL wants teams to put up points.
The NFL has created a set of rules that gives offenses advantage over defense.

Argument:
As spread offense become more popular in the NFL stockpiling offensive weapons is going to become paramount.
It'll become more about mismatches at the Y and Z guys than the top WR vs top DB.
It'll become even more about getting pressure on the QB and that's where time and focus should be spent.

Peterson's value as a #2 is great. He has the speed to separate and be a deep threat. He has the ability to make moves in small space, making him excellent for the screen game. He understands physicality. That makes him a willing blocker.

Peterson's transition should not be compared to Hester's. Hester was a man without a position coming into the NFL. Everyone knew he'd be an electric returner and it was hoped he could be 'coached' into a position. That hasn't happened. He's also a little undersized to be the #1 or #2 receiver. Peterson isn't. He's got the size and the bulk to box out defenders.

Like I said, I'm not great at contrary advocation.

But, if Toler, Jefferson, Marshall, and Adams all come back next year, then DBs will be a deep lot and have some great potential.

I think you can remove some of Peterson's defensive reps, get him one or two plays on offense at WR a game. Basic stuff, mostly decoy, but with teams doubling Larry with a safety and the other WR in the box, you could see some very cool stuff. Especially if Doucet isn't resigned and the team doesn't find a replacement in FA.
 

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I would line him up 3 or 4 times a game at WR that is all.

This is the way I lean, but not yet.

Let him get another couple of years under his belt at CB, become truly shut down.

Then give him 5-10 snaps per game at WR, the way Deion was used sometimes. He can't be in for 2 plays where you know it is coming to him... he has to be a decoy for some, and a primary for others, etc.

But let's let him get his feet underneath him at CB first. I think he will be one of the best ever...Deion-like in that he'll take away half of the field, but unlike Sanders in that he'll also hit.

I can not wait to see Peterson hit his prime. He's going to be pure, nasty, sickness.
 

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This is the way I lean, but not yet.

Let him get another couple of years under his belt at CB, become truly shut down.

Then give him 5-10 snaps per game at WR, the way Deion was used sometimes. He can't be in for 2 plays where you know it is coming to him... he has to be a decoy for some, and a primary for others, etc.

But let's let him get his feet underneath him at CB first. I think he will be one of the best ever...Deion-like in that he'll take away half of the field, but unlike Sanders in that he'll also hit.

I can not wait to see Peterson hit his prime. He's going to be pure, nasty, sickness.
I think he would make a mean Left Tackle.
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I'm just saying we have a lot of positions of need, if we could spare any of PP's progress on defense I would be all about it. Homie can't even get a punt return anymore because the League already knows what a bad ass he is. If he shuts down the League like that, let him master the killer shut down, take someone's biggest receiver out of the game. The fact that he gets to hang and compete with Larry.... PP is the bomb. A couple plays, like if we receive the ball in the second half, he should be there to freak fools out (first play first drive), but don't have him run half way across the field and then get it to him. Let him go in motion, and take the snap, or hit someone else.
 
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Peterson was in at WR Saturday. Caught one pass for a loss of a yard. Another one of those "if the Cards complete another pass they'll be out of FG range" efforts.
 

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I wish I were a better devil's advocate, but here we go anyway:

Assumptions:
Peterson has the physical talent to be an above-average WR.
The NFL wants teams to put up points.
The NFL has created a set of rules that gives offenses advantage over defense.

Argument:
As spread offense become more popular in the NFL stockpiling offensive weapons is going to become paramount.
It'll become more about mismatches at the Y and Z guys than the top WR vs top DB.
It'll become even more about getting pressure on the QB and that's where time and focus should be spent.

Peterson's value as a #2 is great. He has the speed to separate and be a deep threat. He has the ability to make moves in small space, making him excellent for the screen game. He understands physicality. That makes him a willing blocker.

Peterson's transition should not be compared to Hester's. Hester was a man without a position coming into the NFL. Everyone knew he'd be an electric returner and it was hoped he could be 'coached' into a position. That hasn't happened. He's also a little undersized to be the #1 or #2 receiver. Peterson isn't. He's got the size and the bulk to box out defenders.

Like I said, I'm not great at contrary advocation.

But, if Toler, Jefferson, Marshall, and Adams all come back next year, then DBs will be a deep lot and have some great potential.

I think you can remove some of Peterson's defensive reps, get him one or two plays on offense at WR a game. Basic stuff, mostly decoy, but with teams doubling Larry with a safety and the other WR in the box, you could see some very cool stuff. Especially if Doucet isn't resigned and the team doesn't find a replacement in FA.



isn't the counter the more the NFL becomes a passing league the more the value of an elite CB?

Yes getting pressure is important and we need to improve on that obviously but removing our best CB from the equation won't help the defense.
 
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