Ragnar
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on rewatching Sunday game I’d like to mention two observations! We have an honest to god tight in and a real kicker!
My two cents
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arnold has serious ball tracking skills
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I was so busy being a wiseass that I didn't agree with this great point.
Dare I say we have two good Tight ends. Maxx Williams is a heck of a player, and allows for a lot of flexibility with play calling.
But, the point with Dan Arnold cannot be disregarded, could a claim be made he is the best pass catching Tight End the ARIZONA Cardinals have had ? (We know the St.Louis Cardinals had Jackie Smith, so that is why I noted AZ)
Dare I say we have two good Tight ends. Maxx Williams is a heck of a player, and allows for a lot of flexibility with play calling.
But, the point with Dan Arnold cannot be disregarded, could a claim be made he is the best pass catching Tight End the ARIZONA Cardinals have had ? (We know the St.Louis Cardinals had Jackie Smith, so that is why I noted AZ)
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Agree on the tight end. Sure Nugent was 4 for 4 with the longest kick being 37 yards. Zane was 6 for 6 under 40 yards and 2 for 3 over 50 yards. Those 40-49 yarders (8 for 13) and missing late important kicks did him in. You just can't miss the kicks he did. I am wanting Nugent to make every kick but he still has to prove himself. I'm not crowning him a real kicker until he proves it.
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When I think about Cardinals tights ends that can catch I always think about Jay Novacek.
I really like what Dan Arnold brings to the table.
I really like what Dan Arnold brings to the table.
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Jay Novachek (sp) was pretty damn good but maybe you wanna call our team during his time the Phoenix Cardinals lol? Made me sick to see him wear that ugly Star on his helmet. Dan Arnold is really good & can really high point the ball. Maxx Williams can also catch & is an amazing blocker. You're right, we have 2 good TE's in both of them. I loved the 12 personnel sets we ran with them against the Giants. One play in particular out of 12 personnel. Both TE's on the LOS, I think Kirk went in motion & KM hit Hopkins on about a 15 yard crossing pattern. So many more plays KK can call out of 12 personnel & 21 with KM under Center. We didn't score 30 on Sunday but we did show there's more to this offense than 10 personnel. More for defenses to think about.
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Did everyone forget J.V. Cain?
gimpy
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Yeah, I did. Who is he? A tight end for the Cards?
Bkbobo
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You would think with Arnold, Dhop, and K. Johnson, (Butler if he would made the roster) should be a redzone nightmare for 50-50 balls. Can't double team all 3 of them
Chopper0080
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Thank Larry for this. Larry and Dan share a very similar role though Dan has more zip downfield I think. If Kirk was able to be a more vertical threat, I believe you would see way more 12 personnel.
So, how much are you guys paying Dan this offseason?
Chopper0080
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I also agree. I think you can get by with Maxx and Dan as your TEs. If we re-sign Dan, TE drops further as a priority.
TaylorSwift
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Id wait before I pass a verdict on Arnold, remember the Saints let him go for a reason
Because he’s not a good blocker and couldn’t overtake Jared Cook, Taysom Hill, or Josh Hill on the depth chart.
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We don't use Hop enough in the end zone. I can only remember 1 fade route to Hop all season???
