My "Untouchables"...

[AnotherHOMER]

IMO, I want to see Kerr build around Amare and JRich. Those two are the only players I would not trade unless for Kobe, Lebron, or etc. Basically never.

Nash is old and has WAY too many turnovers. His window with the Suns closed. I love the guy. Thank you. Business side says its over.

If we can get a young point gaurd to play with Amare and JRich, I think we have a good foundation for many moons. Start getting players around those 3, and lets play ball.

Trade Nash. Bottom line.

If we are going to rebuild, lets keep our YOUNG TALENT!

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[BC867]

IMO, I want to see Kerr build around Amare and JRich. Those two are the only players I would not trade unless for Kobe, Lebron, or etc. Basically never.

Nash is old and has WAY too many turnovers. His window with the Suns closed. I love the guy. Thank you. Business side says its over.

If we can get a young point gaurd to play with Amare and JRich, I think we have a good foundation for many moons. Start getting players around those 3, and lets play ball.

Trade Nash. Bottom line.

If we are going to rebuild, lets keep our YOUNG TALENT!

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I've agreed with your assessment of Steve Nash not fitting in with today's Suns, as much as I appreciate what he has done for us.

I can't help but wonder if Shaq could indeed have mentored Amare into the best Power Forward in the game if the team weren't lost somewhere between the old and the new.

Power being the new. Steve as the Coach on the Floor being the old.

 

[arwillan]

Building around J Rich and Amare is setting the suns up to be the next golden state. Without D'antoni or Nelson at the helm, i don't see that making any sense.

 

[nowagimp]

I like JRich, but he is overpaid for what he brings, making it tough to build around him. He's not even an all star and makes 14M/per. Nash will be of high value as an expiring contract and temporary backup PG for a real contender mext year. I would move him then, but keep the phone lines open to see what current deals might bring. Amare should be traded ONLY for a top shelf big man(4-5), otherwise the suns will be very weak on the front line as shaq starts acting his age(It could happen any time now). Replacing a quality big is very difficult, especially with so few picks coming up. The suns also should be trying to increase amares value so they have the option of getting good value in return if they fear him opting out. They can do this by centering the offense around him and making sure he has the space to operate and nash to get him the ball. He has had a 5% drop in FG% and a PER drop of 10 this year. Thats because he is not featured and the court is not spaced properly with shaqs man hanging in the lane area. Nashs stats will also improve without shaq and his value will rise. This suns team cant win and by playing shaq as the centerpiece of the offense, the pieces will be devalued. There is no point in centering things around shaq unless they can win it all this year. If I were Kerr I would find a way to get amare and nash on the court at the same time and shaq ont he court without them as much as possible and run with nash/amare. The suns need to retain the value of their trade assets before they get robbed.

 

[elindholm]

I like JRich, but he is overpaid for what he brings, making it tough to build around him. He's not even an all star and makes 14M/per.

Richardson makes $12.2 million this season. That's not a huge difference, but it's something.

 

[arwillan]

Keep in mind J Rich got that contract from a team where he was the best offensive player, and where he was able to produce more than he does in Phoenix. Now he's got a lesser role because he has other good players around him, so he doesn't produce as much. I wouldn't call him overpaid, really.

 

[nowagimp]

Keep in mind J Rich got that contract from a team where he was the best offensive player, and where he was able to produce more than he does in Phoenix. Now he's got a lesser role because he has other good players around him, so he doesn't produce as much. I wouldn't call him overpaid, really.

the warriors got rid of JRich because he's not as good as stephen jackson in the same role(go to guy). Jackson is a better all around player. Better ball handling, better penetration, better mid range, better defender. Again I like JRIch, but he has a contract that is increasing and will end at 14M I understand.

 

[Mainstreet]

the warriors got rid of JRich because he's not as good as stephen jackson in the same role(go to guy). Jackson is a better all around player. Better ball handling, better penetration, better mid range, better defender. Again I like JRIch, but he has a contract that is increasing and will end at 14M I understand.

I like JRich but I agree he is probably not worth his present contract. However, sometimes when I just watch JRich, I don't think the Suns have properly implemented him into their offense. There are times when he is just so wide open and the Suns ignore him. I just can't stand Porter as a coach.

 

[nowagimp]

I like JRich but I agree he is probably not worth his present contract. However, sometimes when I just watch JRich, I don't think the Suns have properly implemented him into their offense. There are times when he is just so wide open and the Suns ignore him. I just can't stand Porter as a coach.

I cant recall seeing shaq pass out to JRich when the defense collapses on him. Shaqs dimes have fallen steadily, and I cant blame porter for all shaqs decisions. To be sure, we have not seen the best from JRich this year, but you can say that about any suns player except Lou or shaq this year. Still what bothers me is Jrich seems reluctant or timid to finish in the half court game, clearly he is another player that does not fit with shaq in the slow down game.

 

[Mainstreet]

I cant recall seeing shaq pass out to JRich when the defense collapses on him. Shaqs dimes have fallen steadily, and I cant blame porter for all shaqs decisions. To be sure, we have not seen the best from JRich this year, but you can say that about any suns player except Lou or shaq this year. Still what bothers me is Jrich seems reluctant or timid to finish in the half court game, clearly he is another player that does not fit with shaq in the slow down game.

The thing is, I have noticed the Suns so intent at trying to get the ball inside on one side of the court JRich is left completely unguarded on the other side of the court. I like the philosophy of spreading the court and getting the ball to the open shooter unless the offense just totally gets bogged down in the half-court.

 

[nowagimp]

The thing is, I have noticed the Suns so intent at trying to get the ball inside on one side of the court JRich is left completely unguarded on the other side of the court. I like the philosophy of spreading the court and getting the ball to the open shooter unless the offense just totally gets bogged down in the half-court.

they are so intent to force the ball inside, regardless of the defense, there is almost never a ball reversal. This would never be a problem with DA, but porter is stuck in the failed saunders offense. You know, the one that shoots 41% in the playoffs against the eastern conference.

 

[elindholm]

the warriors got rid of JRich because he's not as good as stephen jackson in the same role(go to guy). Jackson is a better all around player. Better ball handling, better penetration, better mid range, better defender.

I haven't watched enough of either to comment on their ball handling. From what I've seen, their penetration is about the same. I agree that Jackson is a better defender, and he's better at setting up his teammates.

But Richardson's offense is more polished. His shooting percentages are quite a bit higher than Jackson's and always have been. I seriously doubt that Jackson will ever be a first or second option on a good team, but Richardson seems to have that potential (second option, anyway). Keep in mind that Richardson is three years younger.

The Warriors dumped Richardson because they wanted room to extend Ellis and Biedrins, and Jackson was the more affordable one to keep. Even so, they are in a very difficult spot financially, thanks to the panicked Maggette signing.

 

[arwillan]

the warriors got rid of JRich because he's not as good as stephen jackson in the same role(go to guy). Jackson is a better all around player. Better ball handling, better penetration, better mid range, better defender. Again I like JRIch, but he has a contract that is increasing and will end at 14M I understand.

They got rid of him for financial reasons. They wanted to lock up ellis and Biedrins.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Yeah GSW moved him for a draft pick. They simply didnt have the cash to keep that team together.

 

[ActingWild]

they are so intent to force the ball inside, regardless of the defense, there is almost never a ball reversal. This would never be a problem with DA, but porter is stuck in the failed saunders offense. You know, the one that shoots 41% in the playoffs against the eastern conference.

+1

 

[bill pear]

12.5 behing LA and 2.5 games behing NO for fourth place in the west. not too bad.