Nash made his mistakes, but D'Antoni..

[MiamiHeat]

Even D'antoni said don't blame Nash.

When you bring in Shaq, you change the whole style of the game that Nash has known. Everyone else on the team can relax a bit during the transition and learn their smaller roles, but Nash is the PG. He has the hardest job and his whole style of ball changed overnight. Obviously he was going to struggle.

It seems he will not fit with Shaq, but maybe after a whole season they can mesh and Nash can figure it out.

However, one thing I noticed while watching the game. The Suns have had 50+ win regular seasons for 5 straight years now. With Shaq in town and Marion gone, the Suns are going to be injury prone because Shaq misses a ton of games and the team will suffer for it.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Not to mention Shaq's motivation to do anything will likely drop big time...

 

[Finito]

Even D'antoni said don't blame Nash.

When you bring in Shaq, you change the whole style of the game that Nash has known. Everyone else on the team can relax a bit during the transition and learn their smaller roles, but Nash is the PG. He has the hardest job and his whole style of ball changed overnight. Obviously he was going to struggle.

It seems he will not fit with Shaq, but maybe after a whole season they can mesh and Nash can figure it out.

However, one thing I noticed while watching the game. The Suns have had 50+ win regular seasons for 5 straight years now. With Shaq in town and Marion gone, the Suns are going to be injury prone because Shaq misses a ton of games and the team will suffer for it.

Who cares what the ex coach of the Phoenix Suns has to say

 

[jagu]

The Suns could use a bigger PG. The West has Parker, Paul, Williams, and many other great PG's that it would be wise for the Suns to get rid of Nash. He is too small and old to play in the West anymore. We need a PG with better size and defense. It's a huge liability when Nash is on the floor against a good point guard. I love Nash but I love the Suns more and if they need a championship, they need to get better on the perimeter defensively.

 

[green machine]

Even D'antoni said don't blame Nash.

When you bring in Shaq, you change the whole style of the game that Nash has known. Everyone else on the team can relax a bit during the transition and learn their smaller roles, but Nash is the PG. He has the hardest job and his whole style of ball changed overnight. Obviously he was going to struggle.

It seems he will not fit with Shaq, but maybe after a whole season they can mesh and Nash can figure it out.

However, one thing I noticed while watching the game. The Suns have had 50+ win regular seasons for 5 straight years now. With Shaq in town and Marion gone, the Suns are going to be injury prone because Shaq misses a ton of games and the team will suffer for it.

Yeah that stat was wrong. This was the 4th consecutive year of 50+ wins.

 

[OldDirtMcGirt]

The Suns could use a bigger PG. The West has Parker, Paul, Williams, and many other great PG's that it would be wise for the Suns to get rid of Nash. He is too small and old to play in the West anymore. We need a PG with better size and defense. It's a huge liability when Nash is on the floor against a good point guard. I love Nash but I love the Suns more and if they need a championship, they need to get better on the perimeter defensively.

You can do that without getting rid of Nash. If we brought in a guy like an Artest who has the athletic ability to play with ones, then that would be the ideal solution. Most team's now have a bigger guy they like to play against opposing point guards.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

Who cares what the ex coach of the Phoenix Suns has to say

I hope Mike stays. A coaches job is to put his players in a position to win. He did that in game one and he did that tonight. He's given us a great team to watch the last few years.

 

[dodie53]

Da is telling us not to blame nash,
so nash will tell us not to blame DA

 

[BigShtank]

I hope Mike stays. A coaches job is to put his players in a position to win. He did that in game one and he did that tonight. He's given us a great team to watch the last few years.

His job is to make adjustments and he didn't do that all year long. His job is also to develop a deep rotation that will help us in the playoffs, which he has never done. He never plays more than 7 players and that has killed us every playoff. One guy goes down and the team is screwed for depth. Two years ago it was Bell. Last year it was Diaw and Amare in game 5. This year it was Hill. We have no freaking depth because D'antoni refuses to play people and develop them. Where was Strawberry?????? Nash was tired and it showed.

This team has been sloppy and tonight it came to a head. If D'antoni is the coach next year, I won't watch the team because what's the point? He'll just lose again in the playoffs.

 

[BC867]

D'Antoni's changes were too little, too late.

If only he had said during the season what he said into the playoffs, that Boris is not a Center, not a Power Forward, but a Small Forward (lining up alongside a real Center and Amare at the 4).

With Grant Hill and Skinner in a 5-man front court rotation, we would have been able to be not just close to the Spurs. We would have been able to beat them.

The key word is chemistry. You can't just turn it on with a moment's notice. You need to use the season to build to it.

Last year vs. the Spurs, KT inserted into the starting lineup in Game 2. This year, Diaw at Small Forward instead of Raja Bell when Grant Hill couldn't play (so Barbosa could start) in Games 4 and 5.

Desperate moves against the best of the best in the post-season doesn't bring a Championship. Building the chemistry during the season does.

That's why our two best ball handlers, Steve (2) and Boris (1) had three key turnovers to lose the game.

D'Antoni has tunnel vision. He has no skills in planning ahead. That's why we lost.

 

[dodie53]

DA has too much confidence in his best players' skills

 

[TucsonDevil]

Nash looked 57 years old tonight - but then again, having Bowen on you during a series will do that to many players. I don't blame Nash, he is a gamer - I blame his coach.

I can't wait to read the headline to see D'Antoni fired. It is long past due.

 

[BC867]

DA has too much confidence in his best players' skills

It's the old story of, do you put your five best players on the court . . . or the best player at each position?

Throughout the Suns history, they have always put their five best players on the court. Being a Guard and Small Forward oriented coaching staff and team most of the time, the Suns kept the reputation of being weak.

In Games 4 and 5, they put their best player at each position out there. But, once again, it disrupted the team chemistry that they used all season.

We need a Coach who is dedicated to it (as well as defense throughout each game), not who implements it in a panic situation.

 

[TucsonDevil]

Nash delivered more than what was advertised 4 years ago when he signed. The same cannot be said for other players... one whose game suddenly was sparked, Diaw.

The whole team has some blame other their shoulders. This was a team effort, and effort is an attitude fostered in the locker room. The real chock artist is D'Antoni. For the third time in 4 years, Popp has given him the same lesson, but he refuses to take notes and adjust. Time to move on.

(this post was meant for the thread that was just deleated)

 

[capologist]

I can't wait to read the headline to see D'Antoni fired. It is long past due.

You won’t have to wait long.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=111485

 

[Raindog]

Nash looked 57 years old tonight - but then again, having Bowen on you during a series will do that to many players. I don't blame Nash, he is a gamer - I blame his coach.

I can't wait to read the headline to see D'Antoni fired. It is long past due.

TucsonDevil, I agree with you 100%. I hope at long last we finally see the end of D'Antoni getting a pass for his annual mismanagement of the Suns in the playoffs on the basis that they had a "great regular season" and they were "fun to watch." Uggh, please no more of that baloney. If anyone gets excited about such ultimately meaningless accomplishments, they should just quit following the team after Tax Day, because that's as good as it's ever going to get with a D'Antoni coached team.

I don't harbor the illusion that the Suns are going to find someone to come in and turn this aging and very flawed team into a champ at this late point, but at the very least Suns' management needs to send a message to the fans that there is at least a pretense of interest in developing something for the future. Bringing back the same players may be a hand the team is forced to play because of circumstances, but bringing back D'Antoni for an umpteenth repeat of the same old futile waste of a season is not. To do so would look like either A) the Suns' front office thinks the fans are completely gullible, or B) the Suns front office is a bunch of fools. While point B may indeed be the case, I don't think point A is, so there will be a palpable sense of disgust on the part of much of the fanbase if the Suns try to put one over on us.

And I hope to heck no one proposes the absurd possibility that D'Antoni has somehow "seen the light" and will now emphasize defense and rebounding, develop younger players, and extend his bench, so we should give him another chance. Anyone who's not a fool knows that D'Antoni will just continue doing what he's always done, which is running the same one dimensional system that comprises his whole comfort zone.