Natinals @ Dbacks

[AZCrazy]

All of our pitchers should be made closers. Shelby Miller and Robbie Ray and Ruby and Patrick and Huddie all get through the order just fine the first time. Man, we have a great bullpen. Except they're all starting pitchers giving up 8 runs in the 5th every game.

 

[Dback Jon]

It more points to lack of a good pitching coach. Ray overpowers hitters, but as the game progresses, he tires and a couple miles of velocity comes off, and his sinker starts elevating.

He still has the pitches to be a good starter, but he needs to learn how to compensate when he starts to tire in the later innings.

 

[82CardsGrad]

It more points to lack of a good pitching coach. Ray overpowers hitters, but as the game progresses, he tires and a couple miles of velocity comes off, and his sinker starts elevating.

He still has the pitches to be a good starter, but he needs to learn how to compensate when he starts to tire in the later innings.

Ray's issues are entirely between his ears. Frankly, I think he should be moved to the pen... His stuff is plenty good enough to be a closer... of course, since he is a mental midget who knows if he could handle the pressures of that role.
At present, he can't make it into the 5th inning in less than 80 pitches. He may have done that once or twice this year and IIRC, he actually did quite well in those rare instances.
But come the 4th and 5th inning, when hitters are making adjustments and he begins to tire, he essentially starts tossing batting practice. His velocity is gone and he loses the ability to locate his slider.
It's all now bigtime mental for him. When he reaches the 3rd inning and he's pushing 50-60 pitches, I have no doubt he's worrying about pitchcount and what he'll be like come the 4th and 5th inning... It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy...

 

[Dback Jon]

Ray's issues are entirely between his ears. Frankly, I think he should be moved to the pen... His stuff is plenty good enough to be a closer... of course, since he is a mental midget who knows if he could handle the pressures of that role.
At present, he can't make it into the 5th inning in less than 80 pitches. He may have done that once or twice this year and IIRC, he actually did quite well in those rare instances.
But come the 4th and 5th inning, when hitters are making adjustments and he begins to tire, he essentially starts tossing batting practice. His velocity is gone and he loses the ability to locate his slider.
It's all now bigtime mental for him. When he reaches the 3rd inning and he's pushing 50-60 pitches, I have no doubt he's worrying about pitchcount and what he'll be like come the 4th and 5th inning... It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy...

And that is where a real pitching coach would make a difference.

 

[Dude]

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[Dback Jon]

Beat Scherzer!!

 

[Dude]

That could have been worse. 0-1 bottom 3.

 

[Dude]

Beat Scherzer!!

This guy is good.

 

[Dback Jon]

Tomas and Lamb each with solo HR's, Dbacks down 4-3


Imagine if we could actually get base runners...

 

[Dude]

Tomas and Lamb each with solo HR's, Dbacks down 4-3


Imagine if we could actually get base runners...

Getting away form us now.

 

[Dback Jon]

We give up a ton of two-out runs

 

[Broseph]

I knew we'd get swept, we are historically bad against the Nationals, even when we are playing decent ball. Could never figure them out for like the last decade or so.

 

[overseascardfan]

I knew we'd get swept, we are historically bad against the Nationals, even when we are playing decent ball. Could never figure them out for like the last decade or so.

Curse of Mike Rizzo.