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Then if that is the case, I maintain that the city and we are better off if Sarver moves the team and we get a fresh franchise.
And I wish I had a unicorn. With the new renovations to the arena and the new practice facility being built there is zero chance that they will leave. Pointless to talk about it.
 

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Bingo. Why are there people here who can't get this very basic premise?

And to make matters worse, we don't have a legitimate back-up power forward, either, so that gaping hole is still there at that position, even if we acquire a scoring guard for the bench.
Name one person on here who doesn’t think that Power Forward is the biggest need on the team? But just because that is our #1 need doesn’t mean that we should just ignore all of our other needs.
 

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Name one person on here who doesn’t think that Power Forward is the biggest need on the team? But just because that is our #1 need doesn’t mean that we should just ignore all of our other needs.

It does if filling our other need leaves us without any way to fill our #1 need...

And there are some on this board, including only a few posts ago above, who insist that it is not our biggest need. And meanwhile, management continues to ignore the need entirely.
 

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Name one person on here who doesn’t think that Power Forward is the biggest need on the team? But just because that is our #1 need doesn’t mean that we should just ignore all of our other needs.
I get that. If we are giving up our first round pick, use it on a starter. We can get a sixth man without using our first round pick. Just reading the scouting report on Kennard, and then reading we may have been using our first round pick to do it, I could GM that way.
 
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No we need a PF that can score and play defense. We arguably have a PG, C, SG, and SF that are comparable to other teams starting five, arguably. I think we start by trying to match up our starting five with other teams starting fives. We always get bench guys. We have had bench guys arguably playing for us for a decade now. We haven't had a starting solid five. We were missing center forever, and even with not playing as hard as we want, we have Ayton who arguably fills that hole. It would be nice to match up against other teams starters for once in a decade or so.

I got no problem with getting a sixth man. But for our first round pick? And he's not the best sixth man we could trade for.

who said a bench guy. We need a wing who can initiate the offense other than Booker. Someone who can do it when Booker is being double teamed or when Booker goes to the bench. Our offense falls off the planet when Booker isn’t in the game, why? Because no one else on this team can get anything going by themselves

but yes defensive minded PF is what we need.
 

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It does if filling our other need leaves us without any way to fill our #1 need...

And there are some on this board, including only a few posts ago above, who insist that it is not our biggest need. And meanwhile, management continues to ignore the need entirely.

cause it’s not.
 

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Then if that is the case, I maintain that the city and we are better off if Sarver moves the team and we get a fresh franchise.

If the Suns could leave we wouldn't get a new team for decades and they can't leave because the arena remodel has em locked in for another like 25 years.

Sarver blows but he isn't leaving unless he gets sick of the fans hating him and sells or unless the league steps in like they did with New Orleans, Philly and the Clippers (but with the Clips it was because their owner was a racist).
 

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It does if filling our other need leaves us without any way to fill our #1 need...

And there are some on this board, including only a few posts ago above, who insist that it is not our biggest need. And meanwhile, management continues to ignore the need entirely.
There isn’t a viable young starting PF that we could acquire with what we were offering for Kennard (two scrubs and a highly protected first round pick in an awful draft).
 
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Suns can't stop anybody. Even if they add Russell or Kennard they still can't stop anyone. It will take a power forward that can defend as well.
 

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There isn’t a viable young starting PF that we could acquire with what we were offering for Kennard (two scrubs and a highly protected first round pick in an awful draft).

Which is why our only hope for a power forward is in that awful draft, where we still have the likes of Carey, Stewart, Nnaji, Okongwu, etc., all of whom are already light years better than any power forward currently on our roster, particularly in our areas of need (athleticism, rim protection, interior defense, rebounding, interior scoring and toughness), and why we can't be throwing that away on the likes of Luke Kennard.
 

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Suns can't stop anybody. Even if they add Russell or Kennard they still can't stop anyone. It will take a power forward that can defend as well.

I can't believe we are even having this argument on the board. Yes, we could use some scoring off the bench, but the biggest, ginormous, gaping, colossal hole on this roster is glaringly obvious and has been from the beginning of the season, even in our hot start (which was overly dependent on ridiculously hot shooting, which is why it was clearly a mirage)...
 

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Which is why our only hope for a power forward is in that awful draft, where we still have the likes of Carey, Stewart, Nnaji, Okongwu, etc., all of whom are already light years better than any power forward currently on our roster, particularly in our areas of need (athleticism, rim protection, interior defense, rebounding, interior scoring and toughness), and why we can't be throwing that away on the likes of Luke Kennard.
If we start next season and our starting power forward is from the draft and his name is not Toppin or Okongwa then we are in some serious trouble.
 

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If we start next season and our starting power forward is from the draft and his name is not Toppin or Okongwa then we are in some serious trouble.

Any more so than going into a season with Saric and Kaminsky as the power forwards?
 
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Wish the Suns could have signed Oubre to a three year contract.

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Take it away, offset. Here is the most recent example of someone on here who doesn't think Power Forward is our biggest need...

Explain to me who this PF on the trading block is and how our offense could run through them. Because this is by far our biggest problem. Booker is the only one that can create and draw a defense.
 

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I can't believe we are even having this argument on the board. Yes, we could use some scoring off the bench, but the biggest, ginormous, gaping, colossal hole on this roster is glaringly obvious and has been from the beginning of the season, even in our hot start (which was overly dependent on ridiculously hot shooting, which is why it was clearly a mirage)...

Again... who is saying bench
 

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Explain to me who this PF on the trading block is and how our offense could run through them. Because this is by far our biggest problem. Booker is the only one that can create and draw a defense.

Oubre can. Rubio can (his problem is he can't shoot). Ayton can if they would run the inside out game.

Meanwhile, Aaron Gordon is out there for the taking...
 

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Oubre can. Rubio can (his problem is he can't shoot). Ayton can if they would run the inside out game.

Meanwhile, Aaron Gordon is out there for the taking...

just stop wow. We can count on Rubio to put the ball in the basket other than Booker? Wow.

Uh uh uh Rubio can but he can’t shoot lol. Well that’s kind of an important thing.

neither Oubre or Rubio draw double teams and are consistent offense players the fact you think they are says it all.

facts are facts and the numbers drop dramatically when Booker has an off night or when he goes to the bench. Why? Because nobody else can initiate the offense. That’s why
 
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One thing that we are seeing is cap space diminishing in the summer of 2020. Atlanta lost $20M+ in the two trades and Memphis certainly will lose room as part of the Iguodala trade. Could be the summer of the midlevel exception.

7:23 PM - 5 Feb 2020
 

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Okay, I'll bite. Which starter are you proposing to replace?

seriously?

I’d trade Ayton for KAT in a heart beat.

Rubio, Oubre and Saric could all be upgraded. This team sucks in case you haven’t noticed.
 

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One thing that we are seeing is cap space diminishing in the summer of 2020. Atlanta lost $20M+ in the two trades and Memphis certainly will lose room as part of the Iguodala trade. Could be the summer of the midlevel exception.

7:23 PM - 5 Feb 2020

Makes sense, since I don't believe there is a single free agent actually willing to switch teams who is worth more than that.

So, the Suns have accumulated $26 million in cap space to spend...on nothing...
 
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Explain to me who this PF on the trading block is and how our offense could run through them. Because this is by far our biggest problem. Booker is the only one that can create and draw a defense.

Are you wanting anyone in particular?
 
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