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I think the case for kanning Kliff now is they've got to find out if KM can work with another coach - or whether he's just uncoachable. I think the jury is out on that question until a change is made. Clearly the current marriage is unsalvageable, they just do not work well together at ALL. Let's find out now if KM blossoms under someone else (or at least shows signs of improvement) or if he's gotta go too.
 

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This offense is abysmal right now. Given the players we have....hard to understand. Leadership and direction are completely missing. Has to be Kingsbury, Murray or both.
No worries. This is preseason until Hopkins comes back to solve world hunger, re-unite America, and most improbably SCORE AN F-ING TOUCHDOWN IN THE REDZONE!!
 

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I think the case for kanning Kliff now is they've got to find out if KM can work with another coach - or whether he's just uncoachable. I think the jury is out on that question until a change is made. Clearly the current marriage is unsalvageable, they just do not work well together at ALL. Let's find out now if KM blossoms under someone else (or at least shows signs of improvement) or if he's gotta go too.
It won’t happen mid season. Can you imagine that disaster ON AIR with Hard Knocks cameras rolling?

But I do have hope Bidwill realizes the reality of the above. You have to give Kyler a different coach to see what he really is.

But that begs the question… are you really going to let The King of Failure make ANOTHER coaching hire? Nothing changes unless Keim goes.
 

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It won’t happen mid season. Can you imagine that disaster ON AIR with Hard Knocks cameras rolling?

But I do have hope Bidwill realizes the reality of the above. You have to give Kyler a different coach to see what he really is.

But that begs the question… are you really going to let The King of Failure make ANOTHER coaching hire? Nothing changes unless Keim goes.
Yep, it won't matter unless Keim is gone. Would you even trust a coach that would agree to work for him? No coach worth his salt would
 

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It won’t happen mid season. Can you imagine that disaster ON AIR with Hard Knocks cameras rolling?

But I do have hope Bidwill realizes the reality of the above. You have to give Kyler a different coach to see what he really is.

But that begs the question… are you really going to let The King of Failure make ANOTHER coaching hire? Nothing changes unless Keim goes.
Man I hope MB gets so embarrassed during Hard Knocks that he turns over ownership to one of his siblings.

I don’t ever see them selling so this is probably our best hope.
 

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Agree it won't matter without also kanning Keim. Disagree that it won't happen mid-season. MB will not tolerate too many more games like this one. No way. Next time it looks obvious that the team has quit on Kliff, he's gonzo at 8am the next day. At least that's my prediction.
 

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Yeah, firing him mid year will not really accomplish anything.

An entirely new offensive system needs to be put in, and that will not happen mid season.
Agree with this

Policy on the run is policy underdone

Need to ride this out for 2022. If things continue as they are then put the changes in place at the end of the season. Give the next guy time to implement his scheme & discipline, rather than trying to pick up the pieces mid-crash
 

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It won’t happen mid season. Can you imagine that disaster ON AIR with Hard Knocks cameras rolling?

But I do have hope Bidwill realizes the reality of the above. You have to give Kyler a different coach to see what he really is.

But that begs the question… are you really going to let The King of Failure make ANOTHER coaching hire? Nothing changes unless Keim goes.
There are just so many obstacles here.

1-Keim. No coach of quality will accept Keim as the GM.

2-Kyler. The shine is off of Kyler. Outside of his physical qualities, you now have his rep to contend with. Again, this limits the number of quality candidates.

3-Money. Either you eat 5 years on Kliff which is tough to imagine Bidwill doing, and then get an unproven or complete retread option. Or, you eat 10 years by firing both and will Bidwill spend to get a top candidate on top of that.

All of these are very doubtful IMO.
 

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There are just so many obstacles here.

1-Keim. No coach of quality will accept Keim as the GM.

2-Kyler. The shine is off of Kyler. Outside of his physical qualities, you now have his rep to contend with. Again, this limits the number of quality candidates.

3-Money. Either you eat 5 years on Kliff which is tough to imagine Bidwill doing, and then get an unproven or complete retread option. Or, you eat 10 years by firing both and will Bidwill spend to get a top candidate on top of that.

All of these are very doubtful IMO.
Yup. It’s an ugly situation for sure.
 

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I think the case for kanning Kliff now is they've got to find out if KM can work with another coach - or whether he's just uncoachable. I think the jury is out on that question until a change is made. Clearly the current marriage is unsalvageable, they just do not work well together at ALL. Let's find out now if KM blossoms under someone else (or at least shows signs of improvement) or if he's gotta go too.
I don't think he's uncoachable....but I do think he needs a coach that he respects.
 

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