New Defensive Assistant Coach Patrick Toney (age 32)

[oaken1]

I find it intriguing.
Im an old school dude, an old school coach...and in my mind coaches need to be drilling players on fundamentals,.. then when they got that down, advanced techniques, new moves, etc.

But the NFL has changed. The NFLPA has ensured that coaches are not fully responsible for player development any more. There just isnt time to teach as much as coaches once did. Players do it themselves in the off season, they always have... but now it is basically the only real option.

with the time limitations I can see young coaches being more effective. Run a higher energy practice with a much faster pace. That pace could allow a guy to take a moment with an OT and point out pass rush technique, or to demonstrate a pass rush move to a player and point out how this move works when X, but when Y you have to do this..I think the naturally more relaxed pace of an older person removes some of those opportunities with the new time restrictions.... at the same time it sets the tone and creates the culture of "get it right the first time" then at seasons end, a quick sit down with the players one on one to let them know what improvements you want to see when camp opens next season.

 

[oaken1]

I heard he beat out Doogie Howser for the spot!

was expecting to see him brought in as the new team doctor

 

[QuebecCard]

Exactly. I for one couldn't be happier and every time I hear them speak I love it more.

And another thing: some posters seem to envisage young whipper snappers teaching old grizzled veterans new tricks.

When you consider the present roster and add the upcoming draft, a large percentage of the team will be young and eager to learn.

The relationship between players and coaches boils down to this: Can you help me reach my goals?

Age is an artificial construct when it comes to this equation.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

The relationship between players and coaches boils down to this: Can you help me reach my goals?

From your post to KM's ears

 

[Stout]

was expecting to see him brought in as the new team doctor

Nah, he's too old.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Can you help me reach my goals?

The key is to draft players that have goals. I love the young minds being hired its a young mans game. FIX the defense.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I asked for wholesale changes and got wholesale changes. Not gonna say much good or bad until FA and the draft start to see what kind of team they’re building. Even then, probably won’t say much until I see what the product on the field looks like.

 

[elindholm]

Gannon's quote of "Experience is not synonymous with knowledge". That's what he said when the 1st reporter asked about the age of the staff.

Sounds like the kind of thing a crypto bro would say. "Fortune favors the brave."

 

[Arz101]

"Lacking financial resources, 2023 Cardinals hired among college ranks...." Headlines in 2026 after Gannon buys one way ticket to Thailand

 

[BritCard]

And another thing: some posters seem to envisage young whipper snappers teaching old grizzled veterans new tricks.

When you consider the present roster and add the upcoming draft, a large percentage of the team will be young and eager to learn.

The relationship between players and coaches boils down to this: Can you help me reach my goals?

Age is an artificial construct when it comes to this equation.

All players care about is "Can you make me better and earn me more money?"

 

[BullheadCardFan]

All players care about is "Can you make me better and earn me more money?"

This may be true, but without the player putting in the work they will never reach that level

 

[BritCard]

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[cardncubfan]

I asked for wholesale changes and got wholesale changes. Not gonna say much good or bad until FA and the draft start to see what kind of team they’re building. Even then, probably won’t say much until I see what the product on the field looks like.

I'll believe this when I see it lol. You don't seem like the type to hold your tongue.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I asked for wholesale changes and got wholesale changes. Not gonna say much good or bad until FA and the draft start to see what kind of team they’re building. Even then, probably won’t say much until I see what the product on the field looks like.

It's hard to be definitive either way.

Maybe this is the best staff the Cardinals have ever fielded?

Maybe it's the typical Cardinals trainwreck waiting to happen?

I'm just glad that Keim is gone.

 

[PJ1]

I do not hate it, but I am absolutely apprehensive. Alright, to be frank it is scaring the hell out of me, but just putting blind faith in the coach and GM that there is a method to this youth madness which is in the extremes all the way around... if this hiring approach does not scare you, oh well

Agree. Youth doesn’t bother me but would have liked a mix.

 

[Jetstream Green]

In an odd way, I am actually smiling at our coach getting who he wants despite age while Sean Payton seems to be grasping at second and third choices because apparently the rest of the NFL does not think he is the reincarnation of Jimmy Johnson

 

[Jetstream Green]

It's hard to be definitive either way.

Maybe this is the best staff the Cardinals have ever fielded?

Maybe it's the typical Cardinals trainwreck waiting to happen?

I'm just glad that Keim is gone.

True dat!!!

 

[DakotaCardsFan]

Not gonna say much good or bad until...

Says the guy with 81,617 posts. Don't keep us waiting too long, Cheese!

 

[oaken1]

Says the guy with 81,617 posts. Don't keep us waiting too long, Cheese!

Hey, Cheese aint just about quantity!
There have been some high quality posts among that 81k...

Hell, there was the one...uh, no....
But who could ever forget the time... wait, no..that was Ouchie..
Oh! The one about Josh McCown when...oh......nah, that one was mine...

But hey... 81 thousand posts is an amazing accomplishment!

 

[TruColor]

I think I have about 81,000 posts that I THOUGHT about posting, but refrained from doing so.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And another thing: some posters seem to envisage young whipper snappers teaching old grizzled veterans new tricks.

When you consider the present roster and add the upcoming draft, a large percentage of the team will be young and eager to learn.

The relationship between players and coaches boils down to this: Can you help me reach my goals?

Age is an artificial construct when it comes to this equation.

Hmm I have to disagree with your last sentence. It seems to dismiss experience out of hand. Experience often includes facing hurdles that the inexperienced have yet to encounter due to shallow history. Experience doesn’t guarantee that a coach has solved the hurdle, but it provides more opportunity to work on a solution and prepare for it proactively than can be expected of the inexperienced.

So while age may not be the answer to the equation, neither is it an artificial construct . . . it likely is often actually a relevant factor in the equation.