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I just think the Suns under sold that LAL pick. Plus how much is Knight gonna cost? Are we gonna have another Bledsoe type summer?

Maybe, maybe not. The problem with that pick was that it is protected. So if memory serves correct, it was top 5 this year, and top 3 next year...While a 6th this year or a 4th next year could net a good player, odds are it wouldn't be this year, and next year who knows. The Lakers management appears to be a shell of what it once was, but players, at least besides Lebron and Howard, still will want to play there. Also as we all know the NBA draft has few 'sure things'. If it's not top 1-2-3, and even then, many years those picks don't garner much. In the NBA, you want 1st round picks, because they give you a shot, the best shot, at getting better...cheaply. But unless the next Lebron is coming out, and you have the 1st overall, they are all crapshoots, and this rarely happens.

So it's worth something, but hard to gauge. It is an asset, which makes it tough to lose, but I don't think we should thinking like we automatically lost something golden. In the end we might lose out on the 10th pick or something.

Knight is a good player, and we have to remember while we might be pressed in the future, we aren't pressed right now, like we were with Dragic.

IT, if it is true that he caused problems, then we should be glad we got rid of him. Either way, we signed him this offseason and got a 1st round pick out of it.

We were prepared to sign Dragic this offseason, and he'll get no more, and maybe less then Dragic got. So, capspace net wise, we spun our wheels, got a younger player, who isn't pissed at us, and potentially even another year after this one to decide, like we did with Bledsoe. We might have walked into a situation that isn't settled, but we got out of a situation that was settled with Dragic, and not in the way that would of benefited us.

The Bledsoe situation doesn't bother me. In a perfect world it would be great not to have such situations, but in the end, that's all just a mental job on ourselves. If we keep it cool and steady, and not worry, and handle the pressure, we can benefit from it, and again, it still buys us more time over Dragic.

...and again, as much as I loved Dragic, since the day we drafted him, our team is not going anywhere and with the stacked west, odds are we'd be battling for a low seed for the rest of the time Dragic is in his prime. Meanwhile Knight is still years away from his prime. So we traded a guy getting towards the end of his prime for a guy who is pretty equal in talent and is years away from his prime.

To go off the analogy I used earlier, Dragic threw a bag of lemons at McD and in 48 hours or so he made some mean lemonade. We got rid of some malcontents, added picks, and talent.

Now I hope our famous staff can work some magic on Granger. If we can turn him around, then this trade gets even better.

Didn't we get Noles as well plus some others? Maybe McD makes some more moves with some of these guys in the offseason. Maybe some play a role. We'll see.

We also need to see the capspace. I'm not sure what Granger is making, and all that, but we did get rid of IT's manageable contract, but it still is something we should put towards something else. Plus now we won't lose Plumlee or sign him which imo would of been a mistake... plus he was unhappy if rumors are true.

McD has been churning the roster, and some guys were upset, and now that's gone. Unless Knight shows up pissed off, and Green gets madder, that's gone.

Plus I really, really want to see more T.J. Warren. Three starting point guards created a domino effect where he didn't have minutes, and hopefully these deals remove that domino effect and create the minutes for him.

Ennis is a good talent and sucks to lose him, but it seems McD decided to take a guy having a breakout season in Knight and have all these other moves be made then hanging onto Ennis. Either way, he was a late first round pick, so getting anything from that pick is a plus.

It would of been nice to get a superstar in the front court, but we kept flexibility and our level of assets while being able to move out the dead wood and will keep, perhaps even improve our chances to get that down the line.
 
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Thomas Robinson would be a good addition as backup PF if he gets bought out. Familiarity with the Morris twins as well.
 

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Listening to Gambo, it sounds like the Suns are going to start a Bledsoe Knight backcourt. Is that the case?

Or will it be Bledsoe Green with bringing Knight off the bench?

Not sure how this is going to work out, Knight is used to being "the man".
 
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Of course Knight will start.

Green will get his role back from last season.

Knight seems to naturally move much better without the ball than Goran does. Knight makes cuts and spots up in the corners even when he is the PG.
 

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PG: Bledsoe, Goodwin?

SG: Knight, Green, Thorton, Bullard?

SF: Tucker, Morris, Warren,

PF: Morris, Wright

C: Len, Wright

What am I missing here? My head is still spinning a bit
 

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PG: Bledsoe, Goodwin?

SG: Knight, Green, Thorton, Bullard?

SF: Tucker, Morris, Warren,

PF: Morris, Wright

C: Len, Wright

What am I missing here? My head is still spinning a bit

It seems accurate but I'm still waiting for something I do not know about.

Besides the draft picks the Suns received, I think the Suns have a lot of cash to spend next season in FA. Even Thornton is on an expiring contract.
 

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Wow, we are now down to 3 "bigs" and one is injured. Perhaps we will end up with a better draft position than 13?
 

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I have mixed feelings on today. Giving up the Lakers pick was tough to swallow, but adding Ennis - and even Plumlee - hurt a bit when I'm not even sure Brandon Knight is "the guy" to be next to Bledsoe for the next half decade ... I am pretty confident Ennis will succeed in this league and is the perfect type of "winning basketball player" you want setting up your second unit, if not starters when he develops ...

The Suns are still in good shape going forward w/ multiple future 1st's, a lot of potential cap space, Goodwin/Warren, Len's development ... They are still on track to be a contender in a year or 2 w/ the right moves.

I'm real curious to see the new bench - Will Knight essentially be the "bench PG" or will Goodwin play more? I really hope Wright/Len start to get passed to more ... Wright is an AMAZING offensive player if used correctly - But he hasn't been so far w/ the Suns
 
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What I don't get about these trades is McDonough said our roster was unbalanced but he acquired a PG, SG & 2 SF's (Granger will probably be waived) so he didn't get a post player, but gave up one in the process. I wonder if he still thinks this roster is unbalanced?

Knight is a good piece but more importantly PHX is REALLY going to suck, they will lose at least half of the 41 games left in the season so even though we gave up the LAL pick we could still end up in the Top 5 with an outside chance at Okafor or Johnson. I wonder if PHX can find a taker for Bledsoe come draft time?

Side note, one of the guys PHX acquired was guess who......Kendall Marshall (hilarious) who will be waived according to reports (deja vu all over again).
 

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What I don't get about these trades is McDonough said our roster was unbalanced but he acquired a PG, SG & 2 SF's (Granger will probably be waived) so he didn't get a post player, but gave up one in the process. I wonder if he still thinks this roster is unbalanced?

Knight is a good piece but more importantly PHX is REALLY going to suck, they will lose at least half of the 41 games left in the season so even though we gave up the LAL pick we could still end up in the Top 5 with an outside chance at Okafor or Johnson. I wonder if PHX can find a taker for Bledsoe come draft time?

Side note, one of the guys PHX acquired was guess who......Kendall Marshall (hilarious) who will be waived according to reports (deja vu all over again).

I think you will find, except for Brandon Knight, all the players the Suns received today are on expiring contracts who the Suns may or may not keep on the roster. The Suns will have to look for balance in the off season. They will have a sizable amount of money to offer in FA plus their first and second round draft picks. Also Alec Brown might help some next season. Who knows, maybe there will be more trades in the summer.
 
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I think you will find, except for Brandon Knight, all the players the Suns received today are on expiring contracts who the Suns may or may not keep on the roster. The Suns will have to look for balance in the off season. They will have a sizable amount of money to offer in FA plus their first and second round draft picks. Also Alec Brown might help some next season. Who knows, maybe there will be more trades in the summer.

They should have $15M at least, according to my half-assed calculations. Probably closer to $20M.
 

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As I see it, the Suns would have lost Dragic for nothing if not traded in the last minutes. Plumlee, Dragic and IT wanted to be out of here so they could be "stars." Knight is an excellent player at only age 23, probably better than Dragic IMO. Also the Suns get some picks down the road that can be kept or traded.

I doubt he's gonna want as much as Bledsoe but be prepared to have us tie up a significant amount of money in two undersized guards. I'd be shouting from the rooftops if we traded Bledsoe this summer for some pieces and keep Knight, Warren, and Len to build around.
 

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Len, Keef, Tucker, Bledsoe and Knight could be the best Suns defensive starting 5 ever.
 

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Alec Brown looked horrible in his second game with the Jam. Shades of his summer league showing.

We might have to sign Earl Barron for the rest of the season. I would normally not be in favor of it, but we just need a body to keep from over using Len and causing an injury.
 

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Alec Brown looked horrible in his second game with the Jam. Shades of his summer league showing.

We might have to sign Earl Barron for the rest of the season. I would normally not be in favor of it, but we just need a body to keep from over using Len and causing an injury.

Maybe Brown needs more time in the D-League as this is only his second game there coming back from injury. However, Earl Barron is an option. I was shocked because I recently heard he signed in China.
 

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I doubt he's gonna want as much as Bledsoe but be prepared to have us tie up a significant amount of money in two undersized guards. I'd be shouting from the rooftops if we traded Bledsoe this summer for some pieces and keep Knight, Warren, and Len to build around.

My guess is the Suns are prepared to sign Knight to Bledsoe type money. However, the Suns could choose between the two and trade the other.
 
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I love how they are both undersized now. As if Bledsoe or Knight are undersized at PG... laughable..

And the relevant talent true shooting guards in the league can be counted on one hand... Harden, Kobe, Thompson, DeRozan (more of a SF)........ and then you have to go to Wesley Matthews, Aaron Afflalo guys who are 3&D guys and likely not going to take advantage of their heigh mismatch.

The problem with Goran Dragic guarding shooting guards was not Goran's height, it was his lack of defense.
 

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