NFL Sunday Ticket

[gmabel830]

Still cheaper than the season tickets I am not paying for!

 

[Dr. Jones]

Youtube TV already going up 12%. YAY

Doing the quick math on this:

Price went from 64.99 to 72.99 (12%) this month. Literally April 1st IIRC.

$8 x 12 = $96

That means that because of Sunday ticket, whether you subscribe or not ($449 vs. $349), the price is within $4 of being the same for both subscribers and non-subscribers.

Google to Increase YouTube TV Price By 12% - NerdWallet

Google is increasing the price of its television streaming service, YouTube TV, by $8 beginning in April 2023.

www.nerdwallet.com

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Doing the quick math on this:

Price went from 64.99 to 72.99 (12%) this month. Literally April 1st IIRC.

$8 x 12 = $96

That means that because of Sunday ticket, whether you subscribe or not ($449 vs. $349), the price is within $4 of being the same for both subscribers and non-subscribers.

Google to Increase YouTube TV Price By 12% - NerdWallet

Google is increasing the price of its television streaming service, YouTube TV, by $8 beginning in April 2023.

www.nerdwallet.com

My only hope here is this massively fails.

 

[Dr. Jones]

My only hope here is this massively fails.

Two things no one is talking about yet.

1. At the price YTTV paid, they will need millions of new subs to make it solvent. And that will be impossible IMO. My guess is around 100 to 250k new subscribers (with 5mm current subscribers that would be a 5% increase) and maybe 500k in a la carte subscribers. 1mm buys = 449mm
2. The user experience may look and feel great, but the latency on streaming (usually 8 to 12 seconds) will make the real-time twitter following almost impossible without spoiling individual plays.

5mm YTTV subscribers who will have an $8 per month increase = 40mm in new revenue. x 12 = 480mm
1mm people pay $449 = 449mm

DirecTV had roughly 1.5 to 2mm ST subscribers....... I don't think there is a way that they turn a profit at 2bn per year. No way.

 

[Zalixar]

Relevant info:

- Fans can sign up starting Tuesday for the out-of-market games package.

- There are two categories of pricing, one for those who subscribe to YouTube TV (cheaper) and those who will use YouTube Primetime Channels, a hub that features sports, movies, TV and other events.

- In the final season of DirectTV’s 28-year run, Sunday Ticket cost $300 and up to $400 bundled with the satellite carrier’s version of RedZone. Moving forward, there is only the NFL’s own RedZone available.

- After $100 presale discounts expire, **YouTube TV will charge $349 for Sunday Ticket and $389 with RedZone**; the cost on primetime channels once the presale discount ends are $449, and $489 with RedZone. Before June 6, the prices are $249 and $349 for the package on YouTube TV and Primetime Channels, and $50 more with RedZone.

 

[gamebird98]

Anyone seeing how it's going to be going from game to game. I have roku/fubo...so, there is a very simplistic remote.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Two things no one is talking about yet.

1. At the price YTTV paid, they will need millions of new subs to make it solvent. And that will be impossible IMO. My guess is around 100 to 250k new subscribers (with 5mm current subscribers that would be a 5% increase) and maybe 500k in a la carte subscribers. 1mm buys = 449mm
2. The user experience may look and feel great, but the latency on streaming (usually 8 to 12 seconds) will make the real-time twitter following almost impossible without spoiling individual plays.

5mm YTTV subscribers who will have an $8 per month increase = 40mm in new revenue. x 12 = 480mm
1mm people pay $449 = 449mm

DirecTV had roughly 1.5 to 2mm ST subscribers....... I don't think there is a way that they turn a profit at 2bn per year. No way.

Looks like #2 is being talked about a lot more now.....

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[Cheesebeef]

Looks like #2 is being talked about a lot more now.....

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54 seconds is a brutal delay. I'd have to basically forgo texting with my family back in phoenix during the games with that kind of delay. That would suck.

 

[phillycard]

Looks like #2 is being talked about a lot more now.....

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In other words, stay off social media during the game. Sheez.

 

[Dr. Jones]

In other words, stay off social media during the game. Sheez.

And don't text or interact with your friends of family either.

 

[phillycard]

And don't text or interact with your friends of family either.

LOL!

 

[Jttsaz]

I hope they still do the College student discount!!! I "borrowed" my kids email last season!

 

[WisconsinCard]

And don't text or interact with your friends of family either.

Or the game day thread. I stopped commenting on that thread a few years ago, as the delay was too much on my Roku TV.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

And don't text or interact with your friends of family either.

Exactly. Technology is sometimes a blessing and a curse. The social media and real time communication is great but sometimes it gets out of hand trying to coordinate it all.
We have a Suberbowl party every year and trying to make DirectV lag match inside and outside at patio was a nightmare. I finally went all HD antenna to make sure all the TV's were on the same feed.
We went to Phx last year for Suberbowl and watched the game at a friends house. His YoutubeTV on the patio had a different lag than the one inside. They both kept buffering at different times. I was about to pull what little hair I have left out.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Well..... This could make the delay go away I guess.

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[jf-08]

I'm curious if you can record a game and watch it later?

 

[stewdog1]

I'm curious if you can record a game and watch it later?

Me too. Streaming sports has not been presented well. Last season Amazon allowed delay watching but FF'ing was a nightmare and many times would go all the way back to the beginning of the game.

 

[jf-08]

Me too. Streaming sports has not been presented well. Last season Amazon allowed delay watching but FF'ing was a nightmare and many times would go all the way back to the beginning of the game.

Yeah, that was so annoying.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I'm curious if you can record a game and watch it later?

Absolutely. They stay for at least one year. (at least with current YoutubeTV) Not sure if Sunday ticket will allow it though; I kinda doubt it actually.

 

[slanidrac16]

More proof they don’t give a rats ass about the fans.

 

[PACardsFan]

So, the NFL ticket with DirecTV is now completely gone? I had it very early on & they grandfathered me in at like $199 /year. And those channels were the only DirectTV channels I had. So, I guess the whole system & my satellite dish can all go away now?

 

[Dr. Jones]

So, the NFL ticket with DirecTV is now completely gone? I had it very early on & they grandfathered me in at like $199 /year. And those channels were the only DirectTV channels I had. So, I guess the whole system & my satellite dish can all go away now?

Yes.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Absolutely. They stay for at least one year. (at least with current YoutubeTV) Not sure if Sunday ticket will allow it though; I kinda doubt it actually.

I kept the NFC Championship on my DTV DVR for 7 years. Hated that upgrade.

They used to broadcast the shortcuts and you could record those too. Shortcuts went to streaming only years ago. I had seasons on my DVR's for a while at 30 minutes per game. It was awesome.

 

[Harry]

Sad effort if they’re trying build support for their offering.

 

[azmike74]

- In the final season of DirectTV’s 28-year run, Sunday Ticket cost $300 and up to $400 bundled with the satellite carrier’s version of RedZone. Moving forward, there is only the NFL’s own RedZone available.

I may not understand this as well as I would like, is the RedZone Channel also only going to be available on YouTube?
I became a fan of the channel the last few years and would like to be able to purchase that as a stand alone product on any service but I haven’t seen much info on it.
My sense is that it’s not possible to only purchase RedZone like it used to be, wondered if anyone knew.