nfldraftblitz's revised draft projections

[spanky1]

While they have a 7 round mock up, I really only focused on day 1 (rounds 1-3).....and I like how they are thinking as of now for us Cardinals:

Round 1: Omar Jacobs 6'4"/225 Bowling Green: QB Has the strongest arm of any of the QB's; very accurate with the deep ball; good mechanics; good feet. They go on to say that if he had but one WR with any talent whatsoever, he would have been a Heisman candidate.

Round 2: Babatunde Oshinowo 6'2"/320 Stanford: NT

Round 3: Alex Stenavich 6"5" 320 Michigan: OT

 

[joeshmo]

Switch Vince with the horrible high pick of Omar and we got a deal.

I will take a Michigan OL any day of the week and twice on sundays.

 

[General Chaos]

I have watched Omar Jacobs play numerous times and he impresses me much more than Vince Young as a future NFL QB. He is very accurate and is a big guy. I don't however think I would take either that high.

 

[Russ Smith]

Wow they have us passing on both Vince Young and DeAngelo Williams to take Jacobs.

I also didn't realize Ferguson was at 263 pounds as recently as last season. I knew he was under 300 now but I didn't realize he gained 30 pounds in a year and is STILL under 300 pounds. Seems weird an elite OL prospect at his age would be that small, he's quite tall so he ought to have the frame to get bigger.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Replace Jacobs with Lendale White and I would be pretty happy!

 

[spanky1]

Replace Jacobs with Lendale White and I would be pretty happy!

I really think LenDale will become an elite back and would love to have him......having said this, I might be tempted to go after Edge in FA and use the !st round pick elsewhere.

 

[CardinalLaw]

Round 3: Alex Stenavich 6"5" 320 Michigan: OT

Alex Stenavich lined up next to Alex Steponavich.

 

[Russ Smith]

I really think LenDale will become an elite back and would love to have him......having said this, I might be tempted to go after Edge in FA and use the !st round pick elsewhere.

Pasquarelli said today on an ESPN chat he thinks quite strongly Edge will be franchised.

he also said high ranking Jets officials have told him they likely will NOT draft a QB in the first round which increases the odds of one dropping to us if we want a QB.

 

[spanky1]

Pasquarelli said today on an ESPN chat he thinks quite strongly Edge will be franchised.

he also said high ranking Jets officials have told him they likely will NOT draft a QB in the first round which increases the odds of one dropping to us if we want a QB.

Russ,

nfldraftblitz has us taking Rashon Powers-Neal (Notre Dame) in round 6 as a FB or I Back. At 6'3"/235 could he be the power back we need ? Got any scoop on him?

 

[Russ Smith]

Russ,

nfldraftblitz has us taking Rashon Powers-Neal (Notre Dame) in round 6 as a FB or I Back. At 6'3"/235 could he be the power back we need ? Got any scoop on him?

Have never heard of him.

Leery of the idea that a 6th rounder would sovle our power rb problem, anybody looked at Brandon Jacobs stats recently? 6 TD's but 2.4 YPC and 1 run over 11 yards all season(against us of course). The idea that good power RB's are readily found late in drafts is one I'm starting to think is wrong, Jacobs was universally seen as a steal. You could argue his YPC number SHOULD be low since most of his carries are short yardage, but they're not all(just over half) and he averages 1.4 YPC in the redzone. They're not all from the 1 yard line.

I still think he's going to be a heck of a player but I think NFL teams figured him out pretty quickly and he's still adjusting his philosophy of how to run in short yardage situations.

 

[BACH]

Russ,

nfldraftblitz has us taking Rashon Powers-Neal (Notre Dame) in round 6 as a FB or I Back. At 6'3"/235 could he be the power back we need ? Got any scoop on him?

Rashon Powers-Neal
FB, Notre Dame
War Room analysis
Strengths: Is versatile. Hits holes with speed and low pads, and runs vertically with power. Breaks tackles. Is effective at picking up blitzers. Is a solid blocker.

Weaknesses: Is a 'tweener; lacks the speed and agility to play tailback, but is on the small side to be a fullback. Lacks sound technique. Must improve his angles and pad level when approaching the point of attack. Lacks a wide base and explosiveness when blocking in tight spaces.

Bottom line: Powers-Neal is a fullback/running back 'tweener who needs to add 10 pounds of bulk to be an NFL fullback. His ability as a runner and on special teams boost his draft stock. He figures to be a mid- to late-Day 2 pick.



From The War Room. Sounds like a Femi clone to me...

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Omar did have some good receivers. In fact collegefootballnews.com rated BG's WR corps 5th in the nation in 2004.

Trust me I go to BG, they had some good WRs, obviously not superstar WRs.

BG had 2 of the top 45 WRs yardage wise. Charles Sharon had 1,028 yards and 6 TDs, while Steve Sanders had 865 yards and 14 TDs.

Of course I would love to see what he could do with WRs like Boldin and Fitz.

 

[spanky1]

Rashon Powers-Neal
FB, Notre Dame
War Room analysis
Strengths: Is versatile. Hits holes with speed and low pads, and runs vertically with power. Breaks tackles. Is effective at picking up blitzers. Is a solid blocker.

Weaknesses: Is a 'tweener; lacks the speed and agility to play tailback, but is on the small side to be a fullback. Lacks sound technique. Must improve his angles and pad level when approaching the point of attack. Lacks a wide base and explosiveness when blocking in tight spaces.

Bottom line: Powers-Neal is a fullback/running back 'tweener who needs to add 10 pounds of bulk to be an NFL fullback. His ability as a runner and on special teams boost his draft stock. He figures to be a mid- to late-Day 2 pick.



From The War Room. Sounds like a Femi clone to me...

Bach,

Thank you. Let's keep an eye on him. A Femi clone isn't all bad.

 

[cardsfan22]

If Young or Leinart are not available I take A.J. Hawk.

I do not want to take a RB in the first round because we dont really know what we have in J.J. and there will be a surplus of RB in free agency.

Although a very gifted QB, Omar Jacobs that high in the first round makes me laugh. We might be able to get him in the second.

Ferguson will be gone by the time we pick,so to me I am looking at A.J. Hawk

 

[cardsfan22]

and by the way, Vince Young will be a stud in the NFL and you can take that to the bank. If we have Warner for 2-3 more years and Young learns how to read an NFL defense from Warner. He is Vick with better size and better accuracy,and his throwing motion is so smooth. He can throw a ball 40 yards and it looks like he just flicks his wrist and the ball pops out of his hand

He has Vick ability with Cullpepper size, well not that big. Most Lb dont have Daunte size. But you get the point.

It is getting to the point where i dont know who i would take first between the 2 QB studs. A month ago i would have said Leinart without hesitation,But the more and more i watch Young, the more and more i start to like him

 

[Snakester]

Looking at the bottom 12 teams, if we lose all three of our remaining games we will draft 6th from what I see. If we win one of those games we will draft 10th and if we win two we will draft 13th. I see us beating either Houston or Philly. So I think we will draft 10th or lower. That will allow us to draft an OT or DT that is ranked very high.

 

[kerouac9]

Vince Young will make a fine wide receiver some day. That is all. As a passer, he doesn't look any better to me than Joey Harrington did. A Joey Harrington that can run is still Joey Harrington.

Vince Young = Second coming of Kordell Stewart. Anyone that burns a Top 10 pick on him is wasting their time.

 

[cardsfan22]

Vince Young will make a fine wide receiver some day. That is all. As a passer, he doesn't look any better to me than Joey Harrington did. A Joey Harrington that can run is still Joey Harrington.

Vince Young = Second coming of Kordell Stewart. Anyone that burns a Top 10 pick on him is wasting their time.

Joey Harrington???? What part of Vince Youngs game reminds you of Harrington??? I know its not the Arm because Young has got a much better arm.
I know its not the legs, Harrington cant run. I mean just compare Harringtons stats his senior year to Youngs Junior year. Young has passed for just as much yards and TD's with 100 less attempts. has a better completion % then Harrington did and faces much better defenses in the Big 12 then Harrington ever did in the Pac 10. Oh and he rushed for more yards in his junior year then Harrington rushed for in his whole career.

I can give you the Stewart comparison, eventhough I think Young has much more skills then Stewart ever did. But Joey Harrington?????????thats like comparing apples and oranges

 

[Bellingham Mike]

Joey Harrington???? What part of Vince Youngs game reminds you of Harrington??? I know its not the Arm because Young has got a much better arm.
I know its not the legs, Harrington cant run. I mean just compare Harringtons stats his senior year to Youngs Junior year. Young has passed for just as much yards and TD's with 100 less attempts. has a better completion % then Harrington did and faces much better defenses in the Big 12 then Harrington ever did in the Pac 10. Oh and he rushed for more yards in his junior year then Harrington rushed for in his whole career.

I can give you the Stewart comparison, eventhough I think Young has much more skills then Stewart ever did. But Joey Harrington?????????thats like comparing apples and oranges

better defences? The big-12 is really pathetic this year.

 

[kerouac9]

Joey Harrington???? What part of Vince Youngs game reminds you of Harrington??? I know its not the Arm because Young has got a much better arm.
I know its not the legs, Harrington cant run. I mean just compare Harringtons stats his senior year to Youngs Junior year. Young has passed for just as much yards and TD's with 100 less attempts. has a better completion % then Harrington did and faces much better defenses in the Big 12 then Harrington ever did in the Pac 10. Oh and he rushed for more yards in his junior year then Harrington rushed for in his whole career.

I can give you the Stewart comparison, eventhough I think Young has much more skills then Stewart ever did. But Joey Harrington?????????thats like comparing apples and oranges

Harrington has a good arm. Arm strength wasn't his problem when he was at Oregon. It seems like whenever people talked about Harrington (and now Young), it was about leadership and intangibles. I just don't see a guy that can succeed in the NFL when I look at Young. I don't see a guy that can read defenses, I don't see a guy that can throw the deep out. I see a guy surrounded by NFL talent on a team that may be in the worst conference in the NCAA. The Big 12 stinks. Young couldn't beat Oklahoma when they were good, but now that they're down he's a Heisman candidate? Please.

If you want a guy like Jason Campbell or Joey Harrington that can operate an offense but isn't a playmaker (in the NFL), draft Vince Young. Just don't depend on him to be a guy you can build an offense around. That would be a mistake.

 

[joeshmo]

Vince Young = Second coming of Kordell Stewart. Anyone that burns a Top 10 pick on him is wasting their time.

They are exactly a like. Except Vince is 5 inches taller, 30 lbs heavier, has a 10 times better college production, all at the same point in time in their careers at the college level. Stewart threw for only 10 TD's his senior year of ball. Stewart rose up draft boards after his workouts, Young is considered a high prospect already before workouts. Pitt had a habit of taking the athlete instead of the QB, then trying them at different positions when it didnt work. No one was going to take Stewart in the 2nd round except for Pitt. Compare Stewarts and youngs scouting reports and they are very different.

Yep they are just alike. Bad comparison.

 

[cardsfan22]

he was a sophmore last year. and as i remember he went in to Ohio state and got over 300 yards total against one of the best defenses in the country and won in the Rose bowl last year against Michigan but because he could not beat Oklahoma as a sophmore, thats the reason to keep him out of the Heisman????? those 37 td are not the reason he was up for the heisman it was because they beat Oklahoma, that is a joke. And when i was talking about Harrington i was talking about his inability to add the soft touch to his throws

That was my mistake. He will need a year or 2 to grow and with Warnere showing him how to read a pro defense. I dont see how a player with that kind of skill can not be a QB in the NFL

 

[CardinalChris]

I worry a little about how Young's game "translates" to the NFL. He may be McNabb, or he may be Akili Smith, dunno and neither do any of you!!! I don't think any other player could go anywhere from 3rd to 23rd in this draft. I think whoever takes him will be gambling, and it is a gamble that better pay off!

 

[CardinalChris]

he was a sophmore last year. and as i remember he went in to Ohio state and got over 300 yards total against one of the best defenses in the country and won in the Rose bowl last year against Michigan but because he could not beat Oklahoma as a sophmore, thats the reason to keep him out of the Heisman????? those 37 td are not the reason he was up for the heisman it was because they beat Oklahoma, that is a joke. And when i was talking about Harrington i was talking about his inability to add the soft touch to his throws

That was my mistake. He will need a year or 2 to grow and with Warnere showing him how to read a pro defense. I dont see how a player with that kind of skill can not be a QB in the NFL

Harrington can't think fast enough. I think at one point they said that he wasn't allowed to audible, and all protection calls were taken away from him and given to his center. He was the anti-Manning.... only responsible for throwing the ball where he was told to. That's a tough thing to scout.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Denny takes guys from big schools in the high rounds, and that doesn't include Bowling Green. Bad, bad, bad pick...