Nick Bosa-How does he compare with Clowney and Garrett?

[DVontel]

I've got mixed opinions:

Nick Bosa has injury concerns, and he never really put up huge numbers at OSU.
Williams has one year of high production
Oliver has off the field issues/concerns plus injuries

In a perfect world, an all world LT would be available, but the best available is Williams, and he his more of a top ten pick than a top five. I think that I would look to trade down to #4 and take Williams there.

There’s always concerns about high profiled defensive prospects. Always.

Clowney was too raw & was poor his last college season.
Garrett didn’t produce enough against top competition.
Joey wouldn’t be successful because him playing in a different defense in college opposed to the NFL & father was a bust.
Mack didn’t play at a Power 5 school.


None of those concerns are major enough to completely write off, imo. I don’t think the injury portion of Oliver is even fair. He got “injured” due to an illegal chop block & it wasn’t even a major injury. That was his only injury in high school AND college. Like what?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Here are Todd McShay's pre combine rankings for the draft. Bosa the only 95 rated player.

OTs and QBs waaay down the board. N'Keal Harry is a second rounder

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1. Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State*

Grade: 95 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 263 | Previous: 1

An elite talent (with elite bloodlines), Bosa isn't just a gifted pass-rusher; he always knows where the ball is and is active against the run. He projects best as a 4-3 defensive end in the NFL but is scheme-versatile with his length and power. Bosa had six tackles for loss (TFL) and four sacks in three games before suffering an abdominal injury against TCU on Sept. 15. This isn't the type of injury that will worry NFL scouts, and he has since withdrawn from school and declared for the draft.

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2. Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 295 | Previous: 6

Williams does a great job with his hands and has a nose for putting pressure on the quarterback with a terrific first step. Through 13 games, he has 18 TFL (tied for 14th in the country) and eight sacks, along with 11 quarterback hurries. He also is stout against the run. I'm really impressed with how he has taken his game to another level this season, outperforming more highly touted members of that Alabama front seven. He closed the regular season with at least one sack in five consecutive games as the Crimson Tide look ahead to the College Football Playoff.

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3. Devin White, ILB, LSU*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-1 | Weight: 240 | Previous: 3

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A converted running back, White is a physical specimen who moves with explosiveness and control. Always around the ball, he shows good range in coverage, and he won't have to come off the field much in passing situations. White had 115 tackles, including 12 for loss, while also forcing two fumbles. Against Texas A&M to end the regular season, he had 12 tackles (including four for loss and a sack). You see some Eric Kendricks in him.

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4. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 184 | Previous: 2

A tall corner with long arms and at his best in press-man coverage, he has great quickness and is smooth for a dude with his length. Williams can bait quarterbacks into mistakes, and then he has the closing speed to take advantage; he had two interceptions and nine passes broken up this season for the Tigers. He looks like a play-right-away type when he gets to the next level.

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5. Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 283 | Previous: 4

Three years after he arrived in Ann Arbor as the most celebrated recruit in the country, Gary somehow matched the hype. A powerful run defender and edge-setter, he has an outstanding combination of size and athleticism and will fit any scheme: explosive, sudden and a nightmare to block. His closing burst, high motor and natural instincts helped him to 3.5 sacks and 7.5 tackles for loss in nine games. He missed three consecutive games earlier this season with a shoulder injury, but he was productive in his return.

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6. Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn*
Grade: 93 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 325 | Previous: 9

Tall but still bulky, Brown is a versatile defensive lineman who likely will fit best in a 3-technique role in a one-gap-heavy NFL scheme. While his sack production was just OK over his career at Auburn, he did have 3.5 this season, and the tape indicates he is a disruptive pass-rusher who can consistently stand up offensive linemen. Brown is a very easy mover for his
size and shows good initial pop at the line. In 12 regular-season games, he had 9.5 TFL and five QB hurries.

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7. Ed Oliver, DT, Houston*
Grade: 93 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 292 | Previous: 5

Oliver missed four consecutive Cougars games with a knee injury and had an explosive exchange with coach Major Applewhite on the sideline in mid-November before returning at the end of the regular season. But on the field, you don't want to have to block this dude. He explodes out of his stance, has elite initial quickness and is totally disruptive and usually unblockable one-on-one. Oliver has great range and always plays hard. He had 58 tackles, including 14.5 for a loss and three sacks, in eight games.[/quote]



Here is where he ranks the OT

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12. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama*

Grade: 91 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 301 | Previous: 10

An immediate starter in Tuscaloosa, Williams has progressed as you might expect, going from starter at right tackle and then to left, and he now is squarely on the radar of NFL scouts. After a bad year for offensive tackles in the 2018 draft, Williams could be part of a rebound in 2019. He handles speed off the edge extremely well and is quick out of his stance, but he occasionally fails to finish.

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14. Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma

Grade: 91 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 338 | Previous: 12

Ford is a nasty finisher on a good Sooners offensive line. He is a big, strong tone setter up front and had a great season for Bill Bedenbaugh's OL unit. I think he could move from tackle to guard at the next level. Ford is flying up boards.


QBs

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18. Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State*

Grade: 90 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 220 | Previous: NR

Haskins anticipates well, and he has touch on shorter throws and the high-level arm to drive the ball down the field with accuracy. Based solely on his physical tools, the bar is really high for the Ohio State starter despite a limited college career. It's still unclear whether Haskins will enter the draft, but he has the talent to ultimately be the first QB off the board. The numbers were eye-popping for the third-year sophomore: 47 passing touchdowns, just eight interceptions, more than 4,500 yards and a 70.1 completion percentage.

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20. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon*

Grade: 89 | Height: 6-6 | Weight: 233 | Previous: 19

Herbert has elite size and good arm strength. He mixes some zip with touch but tends to stare down his primary target a tad too long. He will be a running threat -- he had four games with at least 30 rushing yards this season -- and he also has some athleticism. Herbert had nearly 3,000 yards passing during the regular season, and he had a 28-8 touchdown-to-interception ratio for the Ducks. He has a lot of room for development, including in the decision-making process, but there is talent here. Now it's just a question of whether he will return to Eugene or declare for the draft.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Scouts Inc Pre Combine Grades

Overall Football Traits
Production 1
Height-Weight-Speed 2
Durability 1
Intangibles 2
1 = EXCEPTIONAL 2 = ABOVE AVERAGE 3 = AVERAGE 4 = BELOW AVERAGE 5 = MARGINAL


Defensive End Specific Traits
Pass Rush Skills 1
Versus the run 1
Versatility 2
Instincts/Motor 1

1 = EXCEPTIONAL 2 = ABOVE AVERAGE 3 = AVERAGE 4 = BELOW AVERAGE 5 = MARGINAL

So 5 exceptional and 3 above average.

 

[TheCardFan]

I don't understand how Devin White is ranked so high. He makes a lot of tackles but most of them are 3-5 yard gains. He looks terrible in run support, poor instincts, and looks small. I would argue he is not even an upgrade from Reddick.

 

[GatorAZ]

Greedy Williams listed at 184 is still pretty generous. He’s a tooth pick.

Oliver behind Gary and Brown is an overreaction to the sideline blowup and knee bruise. He’s going to demolish the combine and go top-5.

 

[thephoenixson28]

Here are Todd McShay's pre combine rankings for the draft. Bosa the only 95 rated player.

OTs and QBs waaay down the board. N'Keal Harry is a second rounder

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1. Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State*

Grade: 95 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 263 | Previous: 1

An elite talent (with elite bloodlines), Bosa isn't just a gifted pass-rusher; he always knows where the ball is and is active against the run. He projects best as a 4-3 defensive end in the NFL but is scheme-versatile with his length and power. Bosa had six tackles for loss (TFL) and four sacks in three games before suffering an abdominal injury against TCU on Sept. 15. This isn't the type of injury that will worry NFL scouts, and he has since withdrawn from school and declared for the draft.

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2. Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 295 | Previous: 6

Williams does a great job with his hands and has a nose for putting pressure on the quarterback with a terrific first step. Through 13 games, he has 18 TFL (tied for 14th in the country) and eight sacks, along with 11 quarterback hurries. He also is stout against the run. I'm really impressed with how he has taken his game to another level this season, outperforming more highly touted members of that Alabama front seven. He closed the regular season with at least one sack in five consecutive games as the Crimson Tide look ahead to the College Football Playoff.

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3. Devin White, ILB, LSU*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-1 | Weight: 240 | Previous: 3

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A converted running back, White is a physical specimen who moves with explosiveness and control. Always around the ball, he shows good range in coverage, and he won't have to come off the field much in passing situations. White had 115 tackles, including 12 for loss, while also forcing two fumbles. Against Texas A&M to end the regular season, he had 12 tackles (including four for loss and a sack). You see some Eric Kendricks in him.

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4. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 184 | Previous: 2

A tall corner with long arms and at his best in press-man coverage, he has great quickness and is smooth for a dude with his length. Williams can bait quarterbacks into mistakes, and then he has the closing speed to take advantage; he had two interceptions and nine passes broken up this season for the Tigers. He looks like a play-right-away type when he gets to the next level.

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5. Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 283 | Previous: 4

Three years after he arrived in Ann Arbor as the most celebrated recruit in the country, Gary somehow matched the hype. A powerful run defender and edge-setter, he has an outstanding combination of size and athleticism and will fit any scheme: explosive, sudden and a nightmare to block. His closing burst, high motor and natural instincts helped him to 3.5 sacks and 7.5 tackles for loss in nine games. He missed three consecutive games earlier this season with a shoulder injury, but he was productive in his return.

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6. Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn*
Grade: 93 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 325 | Previous: 9

Tall but still bulky, Brown is a versatile defensive lineman who likely will fit best in a 3-technique role in a one-gap-heavy NFL scheme. While his sack production was just OK over his career at Auburn, he did have 3.5 this season, and the tape indicates he is a disruptive pass-rusher who can consistently stand up offensive linemen. Brown is a very easy mover for his
size and shows good initial pop at the line. In 12 regular-season games, he had 9.5 TFL and five QB hurries.

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7. Ed Oliver, DT, Houston*
Grade: 93 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 292 | Previous: 5

Oliver missed four consecutive Cougars games with a knee injury and had an explosive exchange with coach Major Applewhite on the sideline in mid-November before returning at the end of the regular season. But on the field, you don't want to have to block this dude. He explodes out of his stance, has elite initial quickness and is totally disruptive and usually unblockable one-on-one. Oliver has great range and always plays hard. He had 58 tackles, including 14.5 for a loss and three sacks, in eight games.

Dream Scenario if we get Bosa and Nkeal Harry

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Dream Scenario if we get Bosa and Nkeal Harry

Agreed

 

[az jam]

Agreed

It's possible that Harry could be there at #1 in 2nd round when we pick. Not every draft analyst rates him in the first round. The combine for him will be important.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think another interesting development is Dexter Lawrence getting suspended for PDA's prior to the bowl game. his coach thinks it was accidental, ingested a supplement that "just happened to have Ostarine" in it but as we learned in the last couple of years there's a reason people take that one and it's specifically because it allows you to gain strength AND lean out without the obvious side effects of some other PDA's. That is one of the key reasons people take Ostarine is it is less likely you will get caught taking it. They're still waiting on the B test but my guess is this will cause Lawrence to fall, when you're 350 pounds and it turns out you're taking a PED to help you lean out, people will pay attention. ALl that said he's a kid I'd love to see us possibly get in the 2nd round if he fell that far.

 

[Chopper0080]

Greedy Williams listed at 184 is still pretty generous. He’s a tooth pick.

Oliver behind Gary and Brown is an overreaction to the sideline blowup and knee bruise. He’s going to demolish the combine and go top-5.

Oliver is a niche market type of player which could cause him to drop. Aaron Donald did not fall because he was an unknown or didn't have great numbers, he fell because of this size. Oliver has a chance to do the same.

 

[PACardsFan]

Not many of us disagree that this has to be the worst team in Cardinal history. One could arguably say that this is one of the worst teams in NFL history. This was obvious very early on for everyone to see. So obvious, that it was almost impossible for this team to show any improvement as the season progressed. No team deserves that #1 pick more so than us. Just 1 more loss & we don't have to worry if someone might snag the guy we truly want. Now, everyone will have their opinions as to who we should pick.

I, for one, am looking to avoid higher risk positions. I still think that the DT & CB positions bring too high a risk for #1. Don't get me wrong, a great DT is a HOMERUN. I've just seen too many of them over the years that end up being busts. This franchise just cannot afford a bust at this juncture in time. A bust 1st round pick will leave us in the NFC West cellar for awhile. Corners also scare me. In fact, I'm never a big proponent of taking one with the 1st overall pick. I'm looking for players where the following apply: Long, powerful, great instincts, knows where the ball is at all times, fits any scheme, explosive, sudden, nightmare to block, elite quickness, totally disruptive, unblockable. If I'm the GM, and I'm NOT, here's how I'm leaning with that 1st pick.

1. Bosa - just great instincts. Outstanding pass rusher & run stopper. Maybe better in a 4-3, but talents fit any scheme. Barring injuries, clearly the best player in this draft. Injuries happen to everyone, so I'm taking the safe route & picking Bosa.

2. Rashan Gary, MI - Long, powerful, explosive, sudden, and a nightmare to block. If you've noticed, my 1st two choices are guys from major programs. Not that we would take a guy here from smaller programs, but we need to stop looking at smaller schools. There's a reason why these dudes didn't play at the Citadel.

3. Ed Oliver - Of the DT's, I'm giving Oliver the nod over Williams. Oliver is a freak, with elite initial quickness. He falls into the totally unblockable category. Might be a headcase, but also has HOF ability. I would completely understand if the Cardinals went this route. This guy could be phenomenal.

4. Quinnen Williams - absolute stud, who outperformed other more highly touted studs at Alabama. That's great, but did he shine because teams put a higher emphasis on trying to neutralize the other studs on that Alabama D??? This guy worries me almost as much as taking a corner here.

There are other players that can be added to this list, but I think our #1 will be one of these guys.

 

[DVontel]

Not many of us disagree that this has to be the worst team in Cardinal history. One could arguably say that this is one of the worst teams in NFL history. This was obvious very early on for everyone to see. So obvious, that it was almost impossible for this team to show any improvement as the season progressed. No team deserves that #1 pick more so than us. Just 1 more loss & we don't have to worry if someone might snag the guy we truly want. Now, everyone will have their opinions as to who we should pick.

I, for one, am looking to avoid higher risk positions. I still think that the DT & CB positions bring too high a risk for #1. Don't get me wrong, a great DT is a HOMERUN. I've just seen too many of them over the years that end up being busts. This franchise just cannot afford a bust at this juncture in time. A bust 1st round pick will leave us in the NFC West cellar for awhile. Corners also scare me. In fact, I'm never a big proponent of taking one with the 1st overall pick. I'm looking for players where the following apply: Long, powerful, great instincts, knows where the ball is at all times, fits any scheme, explosive, sudden, nightmare to block, elite quickness, totally disruptive, unblockable. If I'm the GM, and I'm NOT, here's how I'm leaning with that 1st pick.

1. Bosa - just great instincts. Outstanding pass rusher & run stopper. Maybe better in a 4-3, but talents fit any scheme. Barring injuries, clearly the best player in this draft. Injuries happen to everyone, so I'm taking the safe route & picking Bosa.

2. Rashan Gary, MI - Long, powerful, explosive, sudden, and a nightmare to block. If you've noticed, my 1st two choices are guys from major programs. Not that we would take a guy here from smaller programs, but we need to stop looking at smaller schools. There's a reason why these dudes didn't play at the Citadel.

3. Ed Oliver - Of the DT's, I'm giving Oliver the nod over Williams. Oliver is a freak, with elite initial quickness. He falls into the totally unblockable category. Might be a headcase, but also has HOF ability. I would completely understand if the Cardinals went this route. This guy could be phenomenal.

4. Quinnen Williams - absolute stud, who outperformed other more highly touted studs at Alabama. That's great, but did he shine because teams put a higher emphasis on trying to neutralize the other studs on that Alabama D??? This guy worries me almost as much as taking a corner here.

There are other players that can be added to this list, but I think our #1 will be one of these guys.

Gary does not compare to any of these 3. Dude didn’t live up to the hype at all at Michigan. He’s damn near Nkemdiche part II.

 

[PACardsFan]

Gary does not compare to any of these 3. Dude didn’t live up to the hype at all at Michigan. He’s damn near Nkemdiche part II.

The guy pulled a semi-Bosa his senior year, obviously trying his best to preserve himself for the draft. I think he's far more athletic & freakish than Nkemdiche could ever dream of. Although, any comparison to Nkemdiche makes me very nervous. Would you put Oliver just behind Bosa?

 

[DVontel]

The guy pulled a semi-Bosa his senior year, obviously trying his best to preserve himself for the draft. I think he's far more athletic & freakish than Nkemdiche could ever dream of. Although, any comparison to Nkemdiche makes me very nervous. Would you put Oliver just behind Bosa?

Bosa
Q
Oliver

Though, Q & Bosa can be switched. I also think Oliver has the higher ceiling of the 3.

 

[Chopper0080]

Bosa
Q
Oliver

Though, Q & Bosa can be switched. I also think Oliver has the higher ceiling of the 3.

But Oliver is more scheme dependent IMO. I also understand that Donald is playing in a 3-4 defense currently, but he didn't have to make that transition when he was a rookie..

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Here are Todd McShay's pre combine rankings for the draft. Bosa the only 95 rated player.

OTs and QBs waaay down the board. N'Keal Harry is a second rounder

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1. Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State*

Grade: 95 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 263 | Previous: 1

An elite talent (with elite bloodlines), Bosa isn't just a gifted pass-rusher; he always knows where the ball is and is active against the run. He projects best as a 4-3 defensive end in the NFL but is scheme-versatile with his length and power. Bosa had six tackles for loss (TFL) and four sacks in three games before suffering an abdominal injury against TCU on Sept. 15. This isn't the type of injury that will worry NFL scouts, and he has since withdrawn from school and declared for the draft.

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2. Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 295 | Previous: 6

Williams does a great job with his hands and has a nose for putting pressure on the quarterback with a terrific first step. Through 13 games, he has 18 TFL (tied for 14th in the country) and eight sacks, along with 11 quarterback hurries. He also is stout against the run. I'm really impressed with how he has taken his game to another level this season, outperforming more highly touted members of that Alabama front seven. He closed the regular season with at least one sack in five consecutive games as the Crimson Tide look ahead to the College Football Playoff.

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3. Devin White, ILB, LSU*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-1 | Weight: 240 | Previous: 3

Projected draft order: Picks 1-32 »
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A converted running back, White is a physical specimen who moves with explosiveness and control. Always around the ball, he shows good range in coverage, and he won't have to come off the field much in passing situations. White had 115 tackles, including 12 for loss, while also forcing two fumbles. Against Texas A&M to end the regular season, he had 12 tackles (including four for loss and a sack). You see some Eric Kendricks in him.

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4. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 184 | Previous: 2

A tall corner with long arms and at his best in press-man coverage, he has great quickness and is smooth for a dude with his length. Williams can bait quarterbacks into mistakes, and then he has the closing speed to take advantage; he had two interceptions and nine passes broken up this season for the Tigers. He looks like a play-right-away type when he gets to the next level.

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5. Rashan Gary, DE, Michigan*
Grade: 94 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 283 | Previous: 4

Three years after he arrived in Ann Arbor as the most celebrated recruit in the country, Gary somehow matched the hype. A powerful run defender and edge-setter, he has an outstanding combination of size and athleticism and will fit any scheme: explosive, sudden and a nightmare to block. His closing burst, high motor and natural instincts helped him to 3.5 sacks and 7.5 tackles for loss in nine games. He missed three consecutive games earlier this season with a shoulder injury, but he was productive in his return.

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6. Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn*
Grade: 93 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 325 | Previous: 9

Tall but still bulky, Brown is a versatile defensive lineman who likely will fit best in a 3-technique role in a one-gap-heavy NFL scheme. While his sack production was just OK over his career at Auburn, he did have 3.5 this season, and the tape indicates he is a disruptive pass-rusher who can consistently stand up offensive linemen. Brown is a very easy mover for his
size and shows good initial pop at the line. In 12 regular-season games, he had 9.5 TFL and five QB hurries.

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7. Ed Oliver, DT, Houston*
Grade: 93 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 292 | Previous: 5

Oliver missed four consecutive Cougars games with a knee injury and had an explosive exchange with coach Major Applewhite on the sideline in mid-November before returning at the end of the regular season. But on the field, you don't want to have to block this dude. He explodes out of his stance, has elite initial quickness and is totally disruptive and usually unblockable one-on-one. Oliver has great range and always plays hard. He had 58 tackles, including 14.5 for a loss and three sacks, in eight games.

Here is where he ranks the OT

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12. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama*

Grade: 91 | Height: 6-5 | Weight: 301 | Previous: 10

An immediate starter in Tuscaloosa, Williams has progressed as you might expect, going from starter at right tackle and then to left, and he now is squarely on the radar of NFL scouts. After a bad year for offensive tackles in the 2018 draft, Williams could be part of a rebound in 2019. He handles speed off the edge extremely well and is quick out of his stance, but he occasionally fails to finish.

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14. Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma

Grade: 91 | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 338 | Previous: 12

Ford is a nasty finisher on a good Sooners offensive line. He is a big, strong tone setter up front and had a great season for Bill Bedenbaugh's OL unit. I think he could move from tackle to guard at the next level. Ford is flying up boards.


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18. Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State*

Grade: 90 | Height: 6-3 | Weight: 220 | Previous: NR

Haskins anticipates well, and he has touch on shorter throws and the high-level arm to drive the ball down the field with accuracy. Based solely on his physical tools, the bar is really high for the Ohio State starter despite a limited college career. It's still unclear whether Haskins will enter the draft, but he has the talent to ultimately be the first QB off the board. The numbers were eye-popping for the third-year sophomore: 47 passing touchdowns, just eight interceptions, more than 4,500 yards and a 70.1 completion percentage.

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20. Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon*

Grade: 89 | Height: 6-6 | Weight: 233 | Previous: 19

Herbert has elite size and good arm strength. He mixes some zip with touch but tends to stare down his primary target a tad too long. He will be a running threat -- he had four games with at least 30 rushing yards this season -- and he also has some athleticism. Herbert had nearly 3,000 yards passing during the regular season, and he had a 28-8 touchdown-to-interception ratio for the Ducks. He has a lot of room for development, including in the decision-making process, but there is talent here. Now it's just a question of whether he will return to Eugene or declare for the draft.[/QUOTE]

This is actually a great year to have the top pick. Consensus number one overall player with a high floor. This is not the Chiefs having to choose Eric Fisher because there was no clear cut standout

 

[GatorAZ]

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[AZCB34]

My biggest frustration is that we finally get the first pick and it’s obviously a dlineman and it’s not a Reggie white or Bruce Smith.

Feels more like they are picking Reggie Smith or Bruce White.

I am 100% no on Bosa. Oliver makes sense to me as would Greedy.

 

[AZCB34]

I just want the #1 so we have plenty 9f choices. Use it and take Bosa. The obvious #1 or trade down to add picks and/or Veterans for depth.

There will be a ton of teams wanting Bosa in this draft. I would love to have Bosa to add to Chandler and Marcus, but we need more help at OL and WR. Top of the draft is defense heavy. A trade from 1 to somewhere in 5-8 would be great to take N'Keal Harry and pick. Maybe send #1 to Raiders for 2 of their 3 first round picks and their 2nd rd.

I doubt anyone will be trading up to get Bosa. They may wish they could get him but they won't make a move to do so.

 

[Finito]

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Lol. That's funny.

The guys who give Alabama fits are mobile QB's. Gotta get out of the pocket and create havoc

 

[Chopper0080]

Man it is tough because I love Quinnen Williams and RSophs have a nice history of success in transitioning to the pros. I get why Bosa would be the pick, but I just feel that Q Williams is going to turn out to be the best player.

 

[DVontel]

Feels more like they are picking Reggie Smith or Bruce White.

I am 100% no on Bosa. Oliver makes sense to me as would Greedy.

I can see it for Oliver, but Greedy at #1 is just......no.

 

[DVontel]

Man it is tough because I love Quinnen Williams and RSophs have a nice history of success in transitioning to the pros. I get why Bosa would be the pick, but I just feel that Q Williams is going to turn out to be the best player.

I love Q definitely. I wouldn’t mind if he was the pick, BUT I do not want SF to get Bosa. That means we would have to trade with OAK if we know for sure they’re going to draft Bosa.

 

[Minski]

Does Q have any injury history? I think that for me it will come down to the combine between Q and Bosa

 

[juza76]

Man it is tough because I love Quinnen Williams and RSophs have a nice history of success in transitioning to the pros. I get why Bosa would be the pick, but I just feel that Q Williams is going to turn out to be the best player.

everythinhg is unpredictable now till combine and following interviews with prospects, if quinnen put some Aaron Donald numbers or closer to them, then quinnen is the unanimous first pick