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MadCardDisease said:
That would be two games in a row that Warner has looked good. When Josh won against the Niners I was the first one to bring up that he didn't really look that good (Failed to find open WR and over threw them we he did, failed to throw the ball away, locked onto his receivers).

In Warners last two games he saw the field really well and he spread the ball around. He was able to find the Open receivers. He didn't make any mistakes. It appears that he is starting to get his timing down with Boldin and Fitzgerald. This was the Kurt Warner I was hoping to see.

And we are actually throwing to our TE's!!
 

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Russ Smith said:
Larry Marmie could make that guy in Napoleon Dynamite look like an all pro QB.

Good comedy is rarely appreciated. Nice line Russ :D :thumbup:
 

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swd1974 said:
Your more than welcome to bring it up. Its just funny that when Josh blows up a pathetic team you never mention how bad that team is. :shrug:

No whats funny is how when Kurt has a good game against the worst D in football you never mention it. Yet when McCown has very good games against the 49ers and the Panthers you are the first to bring up how bad the Defense or the team is.
 

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Shane H said:
No whats funny is how when Kurt has a good game against the worst D in football you never mention it. Yet when McCown has very good games against the 49ers and the Panthers you are the first to bring up how bad the Defense or the team is.

Didn't you lose a bet, aren't you suppose to not be posting? Way to live up to your end of the bet.
 

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MadCardDisease said:
A win is a win and this was a dominating win on the ROAD!

Yes the Rams defense sucks, but we still had to make plays and score points. This is the second game in a row on the road where Warner and the offense have moved the ball and scored TDs without any big mistakes.

The key to winning this game was that the defense finally decided to make some tackles.

Thank you!! :thumbup:
 

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Didn't you lose a bet, aren't you suppose to not be posting? Way to live up to your end of the bet.


It was in the heat of the moment but you really shouldn't ever bet on the Cardinals at all.

They will let you down every time.
 
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john h said:
I am not sure what we will learn as we are still one of the worst teams in the NFL. I am interested to see if the OL can hold their own against some of these top tier teams. I do not see us making a lot of yards on the ground as we have been and continue to be the worst in the NFL. We can win some if Warner is given enough time to hit the two of the best receivers in the NFL and our runners can gain around 100 yards or just enough to keep the opposition honest. Philly is beatable now without McNabb and they seem to have lost their heart. No way we beat the colts. They have everything.

We have a RB who's averaged 4.5 YPC the entire month of November. It'll be interesting to see if we can run at all on Jax, in past years they were among the best run defenses in the NFL, this year as someone already pointed out they're only 18th. Still have a great DL particularly on the interior, in that sense they remind me of the Titans and they held us to 2.5 YPC and if you took away JJ's 32 yard run that number would have even worse.

I think we learn a lot more against good defenses than we do against bad defenses.
 

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clif said:
I am not trying to make this a warner vs mccown debate. I simply was agreeing that we need a wait and see type attitude.


Jesus, there is no more wait and see... McCown was never a better QB than Warner and never will be. 2 SB mvps, 1 superbowl win, 3rd in the HISTORY of the NFL in comp %, I dont know what more you cant see.

Warner has warts. There is no doubt but his play compared to McCowns is night and day.
 

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Didn't you lose a bet, aren't you suppose to not be posting? Way to live up to your end of the bet.

If you wanna call someone saying wise azz comments like this:

Sure thing officer Farva. :biglaugh: Go fix the Alero. :biglaugh:

And considering that officially accepting a bet than I would agree with you. But seeing the way he responded me thinks he would not have lived up to it in any way shape or form and wasnt taking me seriously when I gave him his counter offer.
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
Jesus, there is no more wait and see... McCown was never a better QB than Warner and never will be. 2 SB mvps, 1 superbowl win, 3rd in the HISTORY of the NFL in comp %, I dont know what more you cant see.

Warner has warts. There is no doubt but his play compared to McCowns is night and day.

Lv.. you're missing my point. It is not about Warner vs Mccown in my book. It is about who will be the QB for the next 5 or 10 years. Mccown won't be it... we can argue about why that is, but I wasn't going there. Warner is not it IMO .... again we can debate why it won't be him either. I want someone that will be around for the long haul. We do need a wait and see attitude on whether or not Warner can continue playing well.
 

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Shane H said:
If you wanna call someone saying wise azz comments like this:

Sure thing officer Farva. :biglaugh: Go fix the Alero. :biglaugh:

And considering that officially accepting a bet than I would agree with you. But seeing the way he responded me thinks he would not have lived up to it in any way shape or form and wasnt taking me seriously when I gave him his counter offer.

I guess he didn't know the super secret handshake that makes it official!
 

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Card Trader said:
I guess he didn't know the super secret handshake that makes it official!

If your a man then bet like a man. Act like an adult and accept the offer.

Sure thing officer Farva sounds more like "yea whatever you say" then Ill take that bet.
 

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Shane H said:
If your a man then bet like a man. Act like an adult and accept the offer.

Sure thing officer Farva sounds more like "yea whatever you say" then Ill take that bet.

Bet like a man over the internet? Come on. You posted some ridiculous thing and your "Prediction" didn't even last a week. Sounds like YOU need to man up.
 

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Bet like a man over the internet? Come on. You posted some ridiculous thing and your "Prediction" didn't even last a week. Sounds like YOU need to man up.

Umm yea bet like a man. Its very simple. I lost my bet with Pariah who accepted like a man would and I will pay up. Just like I payed up section 11 for his brand new jersey, just like I bought KofC the beers I owed him etc.... Let me know you accept the bet like an adult. Dont make wise azz comments that make me think your blowing me off.

Trust me it wouldnt hurt me not to post on the Cards board one iota.
 
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Card Trader said:
Then please don't!

Do you get your panties in a bunch when I post?

There is this little thing called ignore. Feel free to put me on it. You have my blessing. :thumbup:
 

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Wild Card said:
Russ:

And didn't the Rams have SS Adam Archuleta go out with a concussion in the first half yesterday? If there's one starter on that defense whose loss impacts both the run and pass defense--not to mention their ability to pressure the opposing QB--it's Archuleta.

WC

Injuries are not an excuse or a factor. We won, end of story.
 

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Gentleman play nice.

Disagree all you like but keep it civilized
 

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Shane H said:
Do you get your panties in a bunch when I post?

There is this little thing called ignore. Feel free to put me on it. You have my blessing. :thumbup:

Whatever you say officer......see you at the game on Sunday! :wave:
 

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clif said:
Lv.. you're missing my point. It is not about Warner vs Mccown in my book. It is about who will be the QB for the next 5 or 10 years. Mccown won't be it... we can argue about why that is, but I wasn't going there. Warner is not it IMO .... again we can debate why it won't be him either. I want someone that will be around for the long haul. We do need a wait and see attitude on whether or not Warner can continue playing well.

Then we agree...I want Warner back next year while we draft our QB of the future and he sits a year behind Warner. But McCown is done in my book. Why start him when he is goign to leave. At least start Warner and allow him to get us a few more wins!
 

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LVCARDFREAK said:
Then we agree...I want Warner back next year while we draft our QB of the future and he sits a year behind Warner. But McCown is done in my book. Why start him when he is goign to leave. At least start Warner and allow him to get us a few more wins!


I think Josh would even agree and it's probably why he's so happy.

His agent probably told him if you play and stink you could lose millions so be happy and sit and wait for the check to roll in.
 

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Pariah said:
Jax is going to destroy AZ next week. It's going to be U - G -L- Y, ugly. Ugly. Yo mamma says your ugly.

Jacksonville is a very, very good team that can run the ball extremely well and has a defensive line that will tear us apart.

Also, who is going to cover Matt Jones? If you have him on your fantasy squad, you shoud start him. He's going to have a very big day on Sunday.

The thing about Jacksonville is that they play down to the level of their opponents, especially on the road. It's been their history. They lost to Houston at home last season when a playoff spot was on the line.

I think we match up pretty well with them. It should be a close game. They nearly got beat by Tennessee last week. It took them OT to beat the Jets in Week 3. Greg Jones is the most worrying RB we've seen since Jacob Rogers.
 

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Pariah said:
Jax is going to destroy AZ next week. It's going to be U - G -L- Y, ugly. Ugly. Yo mamma says your ugly.

Jacksonville is a very, very good team that can run the ball extremely well and has a defensive line that will tear us apart.

Also, who is going to cover Matt Jones? If you have him on your fantasy squad, you shoud start him. He's going to have a very big day on Sunday.

Not to get in the way of your argument by using facts or anything, but Jax can't run extremely well, they actually have one of the lowest YPC in the league. Their defensive line is good at rushing the passer, but not so good at stopping the run....as matter of fact, they are about the same as the Cards when it comes to stopping the run.

Matt Jones? LOL....he's decent for a rookie, but after facing Holt and Bruce, I'm sure Matt Jones isn't going to strike fear into anyone. And even if he does get 100 and a TD, that doesn't mean they will win.
 

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Not to get in the way of your argument by using facts or anything, but Jax can't run extremely well, they actually have one of the lowest YPC in the league. Their defensive line is good at rushing the passer, but not so good at stopping the run....as matter of fact, they are about the same as the Cards when it comes to stopping the run.

Matt Jones? LOL....he's decent for a rookie, but after facing Holt and Bruce, I'm sure Matt Jones isn't going to strike fear into anyone. And even if he does get 100 and a TD, that doesn't mean they will win.


It's almost impossible to tell what will happen, they have a pretty sputtering type offense that usually sleeps through most of the game and comes alive in the 4th quarter.

Like you say they play down to their opponent, still it's hard to see us running against them and they do have a pretty nasty defense.

I highly doubt we break 20 points on them, the question is can we hold them under say 17 points.

I'd say it'll be about 17 to 14 or so, I'd guess they'd have the 17 but it's a very hard game to tell.
 

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Not to get in the way of your argument by using facts or anything, but Jax can't run extremely well, they actually have one of the lowest YPC in the league. Their defensive line is good at rushing the passer, but not so good at stopping the run....as matter of fact, they are about the same as the Cards when it comes to stopping the run.

Matt Jones? LOL....he's decent for a rookie, but after facing Holt and Bruce, I'm sure Matt Jones isn't going to strike fear into anyone. And even if he does get 100 and a TD, that doesn't mean they will win.
We'll see. I predict that one of their RBs (Taylor, G. Jones or Pearman) will go nuts on us, and that M. Jones has at least one TD and 75 yards.

I also predict that their DLine will break up a ton of plays in the backfield. Tate wasn't covering Holt or Bruce, but he will be covering Jones. So, I'd actually bet he is a little fearful.
 
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