NYJ 56 ARZ 35: Sorting Through the Wreckage

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We all saw the game...we saw Warner at his absolute worst in the first half...and dang near his absolute best in the second.

We saw Cardinal WRs put up big efforts and performances...no better effort than Fitz's on a 4th and seven catching the ball and being hit three yards from the first down line and dragging his tackler and stretching out to make it...or Steve Breaston's breakout game to the tune of 122 yards...or Anquan Boldin's never quit spirit, trying everything he could to score the team's sixth TD...and paying a tough price for it on an endzone whiplashing...or Edge's and TD Tim's redzone plowings into the end zone...or, get this, Deuce Lutui's clearout blocks on all of those TDs.

We saw RT Levi Brown have an even worse day than Warner...and, like last year when he was getting beat by Patrick Kearney, the offensive coaches made NO adjustments, as in keeping the RB to his side to double team the DE...or...simply have the slot WR or TE "CHIP" the DE on their way into their patterns. Why this coaching staff is so negligent in making such adjustments is cause for real concern.

We saw the Cardinal defense do what it has consistently done ever since Clancy Pendergast had been DC:

(1) Not put any real pressure on an immobile QB.

(2) Not show any ability whatseover to defense screen passes or reverses.

(3) Leave WRs and TEs ridiculously wide open versus their "soft zones."

(4) Have basically more than half the starters pull no-shows. Today's culprits? Dockett, Smith, Robinson, LaBoy, Dansby, Hayes, Green and Rolle. Pathetic effort from all of these guys...and there are 56 points on the scoreboard to prove it...yeah, yeah, yeah, they had short fields to defense due to TOs...BUT...just when the offense gave the Cardinals a slight window of hope, the defense folded like a house of cards in a blustery wind...and two weeks in a row there has been nothing but piss poor tackling, no emotion and playing possum. These guys flat out don't deserve paychecks.

What one has to wonder about Whiz and his staff is the kind of preparation they have put into this season. Here are the questions:

(1) There clearly is friction between Kurt Warner and the coaching staff. Warner wants to open the offense up and play hurry-up, the coaches want a more conservative approach, which includes implementing a smashmouth style running game. The coaches are leery that in a wide open offense, Warner will turn the ball over...and their concerns certainly were confirmed today...but when the coaches tried to pound the ball versus the Jets today, it only worked once Warner got the defense on its heels in the second half.

It seems like the Cards are stuck between a rock and a hard place here....Warner made his case for the hurry-up in the second half, passing for over 400 yards and generating 35 points...but obviously caused the coaches more concern vis-a-vis the first half turnovers.

Warner will tell you that he needs to get in a rhythm and that the playcalling hasn't allowed as much for that...but the problem is, he makes critical errors simply by the fact that for some reason he stubbornly refuses to throw the ball out of bounds when he can't find an open receiver. Even worse, today he put the ball on the rug repeatedly...either he has to finally start throwing the ball away or he cannot make a strong enough case to pass more often.

The coaches wanted Matt Leinart to start...and that hasn't helped the team's offensive identity. One has to wonder whether Leinart would still be the starter if the Cardinals did what they had intended to do this off-season by adding a true homerun threat at RB. Otherwise, the running game for the Cardinals has remained rather pedestrian, even though Edge is running hard...he's till not instilling fear in opposing defenses and DCs. Hightower is young and promising, but he's not ready to take on the full onus. Arrington has the breakaway speed the team lacks, as we saw in the last pre-season game, but he has yet to see the field in 4 games.

The coaches have either got to let Warner do his thing and realize that when any team opens the offense up, there may be more turnovers...but it's a risk reward scenario, because of the 35 points we saw go up in the second half...and the coaches would have to hope that the defense could somehow play clutch football just when the team needs them to.

As for the defense...the situation there is much more troubling, and is down-right disturbing. And this may come as a suprise, but the blame here belongs more to Whiz than anyone else. Whiz, this off-season, should have pulled Pendergast into film sessions and told him, "Hey, man, I'm an old OC and here's what I see about your defesne and how to beat it...I see that I can run screens and reverses with the greatest of ease...I see that none of your edge people play contain...and I see that your soft zones allow for even mediocre QBs to have big days, because so many receivers are left WIDE OPEN, even Pro Bowlers like Chris Cooley and Antonio Gates."

What we are now seeing is that NO progress has been made from year one to year two on defense. In fact, in some ways, this year's defense may be even worse, probably because their weaknesses are so easy to spot on tape that there's an easy to read book on how to beat the Cardinals' defense.

What should Whiz do now? Can he do anything?

If he wants to turn the thing around, he cannot wait another day. Either he has to insist to Pendergast that the whole base defense change to include offering DE/OLB contain, screen blow up coverage and sticky man coverage downfield...OR...he has to realize that Pendergast is ill-equipped to coach this kind of defense, and thus would have to let him go...which would beg the question as to who would take over...is anyone ofn the staff qualified to be a DC? Or, is there an unemployed 3-4 coach who can come in immediately and take over?

Lastly, and so many of us have been talking about this for severa years now...the issue of Neil Rackers as FG kicker is all the more moot today, as Rackers blew it again...if his kick was a 53 yarder and he would have to kick it lower then we could give him some slack, but, a 37 yarder kicked so low?

If Rackers makes that FG and the Cardinals go up 3-0, who knows what happens from there.

The missed, er, blocked field goal was the play that changed the game.

Now...Rackers is so good at kickoffs and especially good at on-side kicks...he is WORTH a roster spot just for those...certainly more that a player like Oliver Celestin (whose one big contribution today was a face mask penalty, on one of the more ridiculous kicking decisions we have ever seen...with a 15 yard penalty to work with, the ideal time to try another on-side kick OR kick the ball out of the end zone, instead Rackers pooches is all the way down to the 20 yard line and the Cards end up where they would have been on an on-side kick anyway if they didn't make it...and while we're talking about on-side kicks...what another beauty Rackers kicked that was fielded by Ralph Brown...who was so close to the line, why in the world didn't Whiz challenge the ruling? At that point, the only chance to still win was hinging on it.).

But, back to the off-season preparation and thinking...how many times are the Cardinals going to allow themselves to get set back by missed field goals?

Ever since Whiz punted at Washington (who beat the Cowboys today on the road, BTW), down 7 with 4th and 4 at midfield and 2:32 seconds left, he has started to look like Dennis Green and his team is playing like a Dennis Green Cardinal team...a team afraid to win, period.

And Whiz's sideline demeanor has been nearly as sedate as Green's (late reactions, pissed off glares and no coaches challenges when ones are needed)...which has extended into a lack of urgency on the part of his team and pissed off play-calling from the OC, who apparently thinks the way to respond to the other team's TD is to pound the ball for one yard a time into the line and set your QB up with a third and long. The other resembalnce is the playcalling in the redzone...very Green-esque the past two games...the Cardinals had two consecutive trips to the red zone in the first quarter and they took ONE shot at the end zone, an ovethrown fade to Fitz, that's it. Why not throw 3 fades to Fitz in a row? Has anyone stopped that play yet when the ball was anywhere near Fitz?

The bottom line is...teams can't play afraid to lose, especially on the road. Early in this game the Cardinals had all the breaks...how about Dockett being off-sides on Okeafor's interception (which is still hard to believe he didn't return for a TD...will you un-hitch the piano and Bud keg, Chike, geesh)? How about Hood's non-call on the deep bomb he was toasted on and he came back to interfere with?

One thing Whiz was last year...not afraid to win...as just when momentum was slipping away in games or teetering he would go for a key 4th down or pull off a fake punt or something. This year, he's an enigma.
 
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We saw RT Levi Brown have an even worse day than Warner...and, like last year when he was getting beat by Patrick Kearney, the offensive coaches made NO adjustments, as in keeping the RB to his side to double team the DE...or...simply have the slot WR or TE "CHIP" the DE on their way into their patterns. Why this coaching staff is so negligent in making such adjustments is cause for real concern.

We should have drafted Adr... oh never mind.
 

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which would beg the question as to who would take over...is anyone ofn the staff qualified to be a DC? Or, is there an unemployed 3-4 coach who can come in immediately and take over?

Good writeup

However, I would say the present personnel isnt there to run a 3-4.. our OLBs for the 3-4 are terrible.. flat out..

Travis Laboy can rush the passer, but as an everydown 3-4 OLB, he's out of his league IMO...

Okeafor is finished.. Berry cant stay healthy..

Bryan Robinson is a pedestrian NT.. Smith a mediocre DE..

Where is the personnel to even run this wannabe 3-4? And I mean an effective one.

I want Clancy gone, but if he lasts the yr, Id advise him to go back to a base 4-3..

Also, I Im not gonna stick this 56 point outburst on his back.. his safeties today were Antrel Rolle and Aaron Franciso.. i can see why he was hesitant to bring alot of pressure.. these two guys are clueless roaming around the secondary
 
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EXCELLENT points, Mitch...

As ALWAYS! There are always momentum "swings" in a game but it just seems to me that the "D" doesn't make the BIG-STOP when it absolutely has to. ...And the tackling is?? Well, this was the 1st game I was actually able to watch. Joy, huh? BUT for 3 weeks I've been reading on here our tackling is ATROCIOUS! Well, what I saw today WAS ATROCIOUS!! Their YAC was RIDICULOUS! I'm NOT sure how you fix it. BUT when AW is NOT in there we MISS ALOT!!
 

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I want Pendergast gone too, but the 3-4 is more Whisenhunts idea than Pendergast's. We were running 4-3s when Denny was here and even one season, we ranked 8th on defense.
 

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We all saw the game...we saw Warner at his absolute worst in the first half...and dang near his absolute best in the second.

I think it's accountability is a problem. We know that Warner can have these "bad" days, it's documented. We saw that he could turn in a valiant performance too, but the same problems re-occur (holding onto the ball too long, security, etc).

Personally, I would have benched Warner today after the second interception. If Whis is going to pull players in all other phases for "dumb play" why should the QB be different (plenty of reasons, but if you want smart play, show no one is immune from the penalties)?

Would the Cards have put up 35 today without him? Probably not, but there may have been a lot fewer turnovers too. You also have to look at putting Leinart in down that much as bad for his development, but sticky situations are why coaches get paid big bucks.

We saw RT Levi Brown have an even worse day than Warner...and, like last year when he was getting beat by Patrick Kearney, the offensive coaches made NO adjustments, as in keeping the RB to his side to double team the DE...or...simply have the slot WR or TE "CHIP" the DE on their way into their patterns. Why this coaching staff is so negligent in making such adjustments is cause for real concern.

Amen. That's been a re-occuring problem as well. Brown's struggles against capable edge rushers is well documented, and yet he's left on an island too often. For a coaching staff that actually makes halftime adjustments I've never understood why this one doesn't get done.

I know you and I have preached a number of times about Wells perhaps being better suited outside, and this late in the season there's nothing to do about it, but I'd hate to see the same problems we had with L. Davis repeat themselves with our Mr. Brown. I think he'd be dynamite slid inside and Wells on the outside (although at LT, LE's are a little too physical) would be a good way to start next year. Ask Steve Hutchinson if being a guard with a tremendous salary can help a team.

I'd also like to see Brandon Keith get his chance next year too.

As for now? Inner strength gentlemen.

We saw the Cardinal defense do what it has consistently done ever since Clancy Pendergast had been DC:

(1) Not put any real pressure on an immobile QB.

(2) Not show any ability whatseover to defense screen passes or reverses.

(3) Leave WRs and TEs ridiculously wide open versus their "soft zones."

(4) Have basically more than half the starters pull no-shows. Today's culprits? Dockett, Smith, Robinson, LaBoy, Dansby, Hayes, Green and Rolle. Pathetic effort from all of these guys...and there are 56 points on the scoreboard to prove it...yeah, yeah, yeah, they had short fields to defense due to TOs...BUT...just when the offense gave the Cardinals a slight window of hope, the defense folded like a house of cards in a blustery wind...and two weeks in a row there has been nothing but piss poor tackling, no emotion and playing possum. These guys flat out don't deserve paychecks...

As for the defense...the situation there is much more troubling, and is down-right disturbing. And this may come as a suprise, but the blame here belongs more to Whiz than anyone else. Whiz, this off-season, should have pulled Pendergast into film sessions and told him, "Hey, man, I'm an old OC and here's what I see about your defesne and how to beat it...I see that I can run screens and reverses with the greatest of ease...I see that none of your edge people play contain...and I see that your soft zones allow for even mediocre QBs to have big days, because so many receivers are left WIDE OPEN, even Pro Bowlers like Chris Cooley and Antonio Gates."

What we are now seeing is that NO progress has been made from year one to year two on defense. In fact, in some ways, this year's defense may be even worse, probably because their weaknesses are so easy to spot on tape that there's an easy to read book on how to beat the Cardinals' defense.

What should Whiz do now? Can he do anything?

If he wants to turn the thing around, he cannot wait another day. Either he has to insist to Pendergast that the whole base defense change to include offering DE/OLB contain, screen blow up coverage and sticky man coverage downfield...OR...he has to realize that Pendergast is ill-equipped to coach this kind of defense, and thus would have to let him go...which would beg the question as to who would take over...is anyone ofn the staff qualified to be a DC? Or, is there an unemployed 3-4 coach who can come in immediately and take over?

Great questions, but no answers. Pendergast's creative style worked well when there was no film on him, but like you say he's a known quanity and his defense now lacks identity, much like what you say with the offense.

This is still a team in transition, but it'd better find forward quick, or it will continue to spin it's wheels.
 

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Adding onto it, while just throwing things out, I've always been a believer in playing to your strengths. Right now the 3-4 isn't working for us... but the 3-4 might.

I'm also very tired of seeing the big cushion from the WR's. I want a sticky 4-3 D ala the Packers... if that's something our corners can do.

The Cardinals also need to keep 2 safeties deep next week, you know the other team will be taking a lot of shots downfield based on the Farve-ian blueprint.
 

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I think it's accountability is a problem. We know that Warner can have these "bad" days, it's documented.

Be he is a sure thing!?!

:D

:Runsawayfromflyingrottentomatoes: :mulli:

That being said Matt would not have done any better.

Ugh. What a horrible game to have to watch.
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Adding onto it, while just throwing things out, I've always been a believer in playing to your strengths. Right now the 3-4 isn't working for us... but the 3-4 might.

I'm also very tired of seeing the big cushion from the WR's. I want a sticky 4-3 D ala the Packers... if that's something our corners can do.

The Cardinals also need to keep 2 safeties deep next week, you know the other team will be taking a lot of shots downfield based on the Farve-ian blueprint.

Don't you think that the Cards opponents will be working a lot of mis-direction and screens, and short passes to the TE and RB after watching the last two weeks? I think we can't keep two safeties deep because our defense can't contain those plays which eventually leaves WRs wide open deep.

It sure would be nice to keep that extra guy back but I don't think we have that luxury.
 

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Don't you think that the Cards opponents will be working a lot of mis-direction and screens, and short passes to the TE and RB after watching the last two weeks? I think we can't keep two safeties deep because our defense can't contain those plays which eventually leaves WRs wide open deep.

It sure would be nice to keep that extra guy back but I don't think we have that luxury.


That is all I would run against our team is mis-direction and screens.

We can't stop them.
 

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well, today I'm gonna be the kind of guy who says I told you so. You want to start the game with Warner flinging it all over the place and you're gonna get a butt-load of turnovers with it.

Whiz is in a bad situation. He's got a QB who can't limit turnovers against any team with a pulse, another QB who's just not ready to play (and may never be) and a defense that is so devoid of talent and coordination that it can't deal with any adversity whatsoever (meaning any kind of injury or turnover)... oh yeah, and he's got the slowest running back in the game.

And everyone wants to criticize the coach? I think the guy's a freaking miracle worker for actually having that set of circumstances foisted upon him and still having a .500 record.

The sad part is the only way this team moves forward is when there is a clean sweep of the FO, but usually that means a new FO brings in their own coach. Sucks. If Wiz had competent people above him, holding people below them accountable, I think he could be the guy. Sucks. Crap.
 

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Don't you think that the Cards opponents will be working a lot of mis-direction and screens, and short passes to the TE and RB after watching the last two weeks? I think we can't keep two safeties deep because our defense can't contain those plays which eventually leaves WRs wide open deep.

It sure would be nice to keep that extra guy back but I don't think we have that luxury.

That is all I would run against our team is mis-direction and screens.

We can't stop them.

Granted, what the team seems to really need is a 12th and 13th man on the field.
 

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well, today I'm gonna be the kind of guy who says I told you so. You want to start the game with Warner flinging it all over the place and you're gonna get a butt-load of turnovers with it.

Whiz is in a bad situation. He's got a QB who can't limit turnovers against any team with a pulse, another QB who's just not ready to play (and may never be) and a defense that is so devoid of talent and coordination that it can't deal with any adversity whatsoever (meaning any kind of injury or turnover)... oh yeah, and he's got the slowest running back in the game.

And everyone wants to criticize the coach? I think the guy's a freaking miracle worker for actually having that set of circumstances foisted upon him and still having a .500 record.

The sad part is the only way this team moves forward is when there is a clean sweep of the FO, but usually that means a new FO brings in their own coach. Sucks. If Wiz had competent people above him, holding people below them accountable, I think he could be the guy. Sucks. Crap.

Agree with most of that cheese... however, they didn't really open the game with "Warner flinging it all over the place"... In fact, in the first quarter, the play-calling was once again ATROCIOUS!! The Cards are so predictible my son's team can stop them on 1st and 2nd downs! Run Edge left - 1 yard... Run Edge right - no yards... Hey, guess what? It's 3rd and long - what do ay think the Cards will do here?? :bang:

Also - Rolle does suck and needs to get called out once again...
Also - We have ZERO, NADA, NOTHING, ZILCHO Pass Rush!!

As I said in another thread - this team is no different than any other team that has worn the Red & White over the last 7-8 years...
Now 15 & 53 on the road since 2000. Worst in the NFL... Man, the guys from ESPN were even at a loss for words when trying to comment on the Cards. The Cubs are at least fun... The Cards? :barf:
 

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Good write up Mitch!

It is pretty clear now that Rolle is a bust. Levi is not progressing and even though it is too early to label him as bust, he is borderlining. Our CB's are at best average and periodically get burned. We need to move DRC in place of Green and see if he develops into a good corner.
 

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I have to say that you need to back off Levi Brown a little. Yes he had a bad game but he wasn't drafted to pass block 57 times in a game. That was not his strength in college and it is naive to think that it would turn into his strength in the pros. Part of having a successfull football team is drafting players for a scheme and committing to it. If you don't, you are playing to your players weaknesses rather than their strengths and that is not a good formula for success.
 

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I have to say that you need to back off Levi Brown a little. Yes he had a bad game but he wasn't drafted to pass block 57 times in a game. That was not his strength in college and it is naive to think that it would turn into his strength in the pros. Part of having a successfull football team is drafting players for a scheme and committing to it. If you don't, you are playing to your players weaknesses rather than their strengths and that is not a good formula for success.

When this team gets some semblance of a running attack.. Levi will be fine.. he's a second yr guy forced to pass protect for a brittle statue 50 times today...

The Jets were just pinning their ears back cause they know even if Edge gets a handoff, he's only going 5-6 yards before he's run down..

Get Chris Wells in the backfield.. or a CJ Spiller type to go with Hightower.. and watch our offense become fantastic..

Edge is really slowing us down right now
 

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We saw the Cardinal defense do what it has consistently done ever since Clancy Pendergast had been DC:

(1) Not put any real pressure on an immobile QB.

(2) Not show any ability whatseover to defense screen passes or reverses.

(3) Leave WRs and TEs ridiculously wide open versus their "soft zones."

(4) Have basically more than half the starters pull no-shows. Today's culprits? Dockett, Smith, Robinson, LaBoy, Dansby, Hayes, Green and Rolle. Pathetic effort from all of these guys...and there are 56 points on the scoreboard to prove it...yeah, yeah, yeah, they had short fields to defense due to TOs...BUT...just when the offense gave the Cardinals a slight window of hope, the defense folded like a house of cards in a blustery wind...and two weeks in a row there has been nothing but piss poor tackling, no emotion and playing possum. These guys flat out don't deserve paychecks.

Our biggest problem on deense is we try to "scheme" our way to get a stop. It's 4th and 4 and we totally disregard anything but stopping the run because we all "know" they got to run. Um no they don't. We need to get pressure on the opposing QB with 4 guys. If they can't get pressure, then rush 3 and play the run and drop into short zones.

What one has to wonder about Whiz and his staff is the kind of preparation they have put into this season. Here are the questions:

(1) There clearly is friction between Kurt Warner and the coaching staff. Warner wants to open the offense up and play hurry-up, the coaches want a more conservative approach, which includes implementing a smashmouth style running game. The coaches are leery that in a wide open offense, Warner will turn the ball over...and their concerns certainly were confirmed today...but when the coaches tried to pound the ball versus the Jets today, it only worked once Warner got the defense on its heels in the second half.

It seems like the Cards are stuck between a rock and a hard place here....Warner made his case for the hurry-up in the second half, passing for over 400 yards and generating 35 points...but obviously caused the coaches more concern vis-a-vis the first half turnovers.

Case for the hurry up? What else were we suppose to do being down 34-0 and how much of our success was based on the Cardinalesque defense the Jets decided to play? We definitely should be mixing in no huddle with our regular offense especially when we set ourselves up thru successful plays. When we get a 6 or 7 yard gain on first down get right back on the line and don't allow the defense to switch their packages.


If he wants to turn the thing around, he cannot wait another day. Either he has to insist to Pendergast that the whole base defense change to include offering DE/OLB contain, screen blow up coverage and sticky man coverage downfield...OR...he has to realize that Pendergast is ill-equipped to coach this kind of defense, and thus would have to let him go...which would beg the question as to who would take over...is anyone ofn the staff qualified to be a DC? Or, is there an unemployed 3-4 coach who can come in immediately and take over?

Now is not the time to fire anybody. We need to dummy down the defense and get back to basics. We played right into the hands of Favre today. They KNEW we were going to bring pressure early and they countered that with a couple of screens and reverses. We were on our heels the rest of the game. We need to take away the run and not allow the big play. Not because that is the way to play defense , but that is the best we can do! Hold them to a FG and hope we score TD's. Ask anymore from the talent on this team and it's like asking you home run hitter to lead off the inning with a bunt.



If Rackers makes that FG and the Cardinals go up 3-0, who knows what happens from there.

I know. We are down 34-3 instaed of 34-0.

The missed, er, blocked field goal was the play that changed the game.

Now...Rackers is so good at kickoffs and especially good at on-side kicks...he is WORTH a roster spot just for those...certainly more that a player like Oliver Celestin (whose one big contribution today was a face mask penalty, on one of the more ridiculous kicking decisions we have ever seen...with a 15 yard penalty to work with, the ideal time to try another on-side kick OR kick the ball out of the end zone, instead Rackers pooches is all the way down to the 20 yard line and the Cards end up where they would have been on an on-side kick anyway if they didn't make it...and while we're talking about on-side kicks...what another beauty Rackers kicked that was fielded by Ralph Brown...who was so close to the line, why in the world didn't Whiz challenge the ruling? At that point, the only chance to still win was hinging on it.).

Don't throw a red flag just for the sake of throwing it. The call was clearly right from ANY angle. I agree with you on the kick after the penalty. Just kick the damn thing out of the end zone. No return, no time off the clock, and the defense needs to make a stand. Theoretically, had the Jets started 20 yards further back they would have been faced with a 4th and 4 on there own 40 yard line and most likely would not have gone for the first down, punting instead.



One thing Whiz was last year...not afraid to win...as just when momentum was slipping away in games or teetering he would go for a key 4th down or pull off a fake punt or something. This year, he's an enigma.[/QUOTE]

It's so very evident that Whiz coaches differently at home than he does on the road. To some degree I can accept that. But you can't coach not to lose. We can debate about this all week long but we held them to a 3 and out. We proceed to march down the field only to lose 20 yards on a fumble and then fumble it again. We intercept a ball to their 20 yard line only to fail once agin in the red zone and miss a FG. We should have been up 14-0 before the Jets ever knew what hit them. THAT"S how you lose football games.
 

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Lastly, and so many of us have been talking about this for severa years now...the issue of Neil Rackers as FG kicker is all the more moot today, as Rackers blew it again...if his kick was a 53 yarder and he would have to kick it lower then we could give him some slack, but, a 37 yarder kicked so low?

Mitch, I like reading all your analysis after our games. I'm not a Rackers supporter either, but to blame him for a blocked FG is not right. When you have as many guys as the Jets did 3-4 yards into the backfield, every kicker in the league would have had that kick blocked. Rackers is innocent on this one.
 

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Mitch, I like reading all your analysis after our games. I'm not a Rackers supporter either, but to blame him for a blocked FG is not right. When you have as many guys as the Jets did 3-4 yards into the backfield, every kicker in the league would have had that kick blocked. Rackers is innocent on this one.
I agree. Except for the 3rd quarter, protection was pretty poor to say the least.
 

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well, today I'm gonna be the kind of guy who says I told you so. You want to start the game with Warner flinging it all over the place and you're gonna get a butt-load of turnovers with it.

Whiz is in a bad situation. He's got a QB who can't limit turnovers against any team with a pulse, another QB who's just not ready to play (and may never be) and a defense that is so devoid of talent and coordination that it can't deal with any adversity whatsoever (meaning any kind of injury or turnover)... oh yeah, and he's got the slowest running back in the game.

And everyone wants to criticize the coach? I think the guy's a freaking miracle worker for actually having that set of circumstances foisted upon him and still having a .500 record..

Get out of here. This is the craziest post of all time on this board.

There are so many players on this roster other teams would kill to have. We have never put the right teacher/motivator in there.

I said earlier in the week that Jim johnson would have been awesome. Everyone responded with "look how many fewer points our D gave up than the Eagles or how many fewer yards" etc etc

Jim Johnson WINS. WINS continuously. Eagles dont have that much talent, I cant figure out how they can win more than 5 games. But odds are they will win 9 or 10 in the toughest division in football.

It is now my firm belief that anyone could sell lead bricks to people in AZ if you paint them gold. You all out there fall for any smooth talker or poor performer that shows even a hint of marginal talent

Dave Mac
Ray Thompson
Dennis Green
Ronald McKinnon
Buddy Ryan
Ken Whizenhunt

Meanwhile real winners like Jim Johnson are nothing to Arizonians. He gives up too many points or yards LMAO.
 

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Sounds to me like Mitch is getting down on Whiz a bit. Careful Mitch the lynch mob is here. Once the lynch mob gets fired up for a loser they want him here for a decade to continue our great tradition of not improving.
 

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Get out of here. This is the craziest post of all time on this board.

There are so many players on this roster other teams would kill to have. We have never put the right teacher/motivator in there.

I think this is the craziest post of all time. This team has Boldin, Fitz, Wilson and Dansby that other teams would kill to have and the rest of the team is basically drek IMO. I've never done anything Antonio Smith? Turnstyle at tackle and reach pick Levi Brown? The slowest starting RB in the league Edgerrin James? Career journeyman T Mike Gandy? Toast Eric Green? The Eagels (you know, Jim Johnson's team) let me go Rod Hood? I'm the most over-rated player in the history of the Cardinals tweener Darnell Dockett? I'm a complete bust without a position Antrelle Rolle? I'm old and perpetually injured Bert Berry? I can't hold on to the football to save my life Kurt Warner? I can't beat out a guy who's old and can't hold on to a football to save his life Matt Leinart?

Who are these players and when have they even shown flashes of being players other teams would kill for. If you're that good, you should at least see FLASHES shine through the muck.

Look, you want to come in here ranting and raving but you're the same person who buys the hype and actually bets big money on a team that's never proven jack. That in of itself calls into question any kind of opinion you have on football.
I said earlier in the week that Jim johnson would have been awesome. Everyone responded with "look how many fewer points our D gave up than the Eagles or how many fewer yards" etc etc

a) I'm pretty sure I wasn't one of those people and b) I agree, Jim Johnson as our DC WOULD be awesome. But as our HC? I'm gonna go with the 31 other teams that have never even given him a sniff at a HC job. Some guys are just better left in the position where they are and that's apparently the case with Johnson. A great DC. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jim Johnson WINS. WINS continuously. Eagles dont have that much talent, I cant figure out how they can win more than 5 games. But odds are they will win 9 or 10 in the toughest division in football.

Jim Johnson is a DC who no team in the league believes he can be a HC. Some guys are just perfect at what they do.

It is now my firm belief that anyone could sell lead bricks to people in AZ if you paint them gold. You all out there fall for any smooth talker or poor performer that shows even a hint of marginal talent

Dave Mac
Ray Thompson
Dennis Green
Ronald McKinnon
Buddy Ryan
Ken Whizenhunt

Meanwhile real winners like Jim Johnson are nothing to Arizonians. He gives up too many points or yards LMAO.

You can bring up Coach Smack, No Play Ray, McCkinnon and Buddy Ryan all you want but you ain't gonna find ANY post where I've ever defended those guys (you know what you'd find is the exact opposite). Did I give DG a year to show me something? Yeah and after that I ripped into him too.

Like I said, we've got an inept FO that has failed to put a solid team together and IMO forced a pathetic DC on their HC. The fact that guy is .500 with those set of circumstances is impressive to me.

Jim Johnson WINS? Since when did he become the HC of the Eagles? The guy is an absolutely phenomenal DC but apparently that's all he is as no team in a decade has even given him a sniff of a head coaching job. Some guys just ain't head coaching material.

Now, with that said,
 

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