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Thank you for yet again proving my point in your "style" of argumentation.

You magically changed my argument from of Injury Red flag that is in the official NFL draft material - as in history of injuries that might impact draft status. There were only 2. Wilson and Williams. Which is the two players I'm referring to.

Ojulari has a minor injury in his draft preparation process that kept him out of the first two weeks of TC. Not a Red Flag.

Thomas struggled with clinical depression. That doesn't go into the injury report.

But nice try :thumbup:
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My concern with Ojulari is he wasn’t exactly tearing it up in training camp before the knee injury. There weren’t stories by the homer media types hyping him up for looking explosive and dominating the tackles. He can’t be seen as anything more than a depth rotation guy going into next season.

Man I forgot about Xavier Thomas...
 

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My concern with Ojulari is he wasn’t exactly tearing it up in training camp before the knee injury. There weren’t stories by the homer media types hyping him up for looking explosive and dominating the tackles. He can’t be seen as anything more than a depth rotation guy going into next season.

Man I forgot about Xavier Thomas...
That is an absolutely a fair point. He was a hype guy. Like Stewart in this draft.

My point was that there was not a injury red flag. Yeah, he banged his knee and needed minor surgery like so many others.

I do not count BJ as a potential starter. He is part of the rotation.
 

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He was drafted injured. He absolutely did have a red flag.
You are making up a post-factual narrative to fit your narrative.

He had zero history of injury or a draft red flag due to injury.

That he had a small injury that made him miss two weeks of TC is but a draft red flag.

Please look at any draft bio and show me where injury concern is mentioned. There is none.
 

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You are making up a post-factual narrative to fit your narrative.

He had zero history of injury or a draft red flag due to injury.

That he had a small injury that made him miss two weeks of TC is but a draft red flag.

Please look at any draft bio and show me where injury concern is mentioned. There is none.
That injury that made him miss part of TC was an injury he had during the draft process, we learned.
 

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From the podcasts I’m listening to, Booker is the only one clearly dropping in the mid 1st (worst combine of all players) and Jackson is on the rise. I expect both would be too high at 16.

Check the Mic, which is IMO the best podcast out there absolutely love Jackson, but around pick 25
I’d be stunned if either guy goes that high. Jackson looks like early 2 unless something changes.
 

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Trying to split hairs here, eh? The topic arose from him being adverse to bringing in injured players. Beej was injured when brought in. End of.
Not at all.

No history of injury. No injury red flag that impacted his draft status. Fact.

His injury was a minor thing that was a one off. Zero correlation to him blowing out his knee a year later.
 

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Not at all.

No history of injury. No injury red flag that impacted his draft status. Fact.

His injury was a minor thing that was a one off. Zero correlation to him blowing out his knee a year later.
Deciding that BJ Ojulari, who had a knee injury that prevented him from fully participating in much of the draft process, all of the offseason activities, and part of training camp, did not have an injury when drafted, and citing the well known definition of injury red flag, is something You're Certainly Doing for some reason.

And then dismissing his execrable rookie season performance as either not relevant to or independent of his inability to, you know, do football stuff from (at least!) March until August and instead focus on a non-contact knee (!!!!) injury 18 months later as being the injury concern people had... Man. Definitely working hard out there, I guess.
 

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That injury that made him miss part of TC was an injury he had during the draft process, we learned.

Learned where?

This feels like you heard K9 say it so often you have started to believe it as fact.
 

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Deciding that BJ Ojulari, who had a knee injury that prevented him from fully participating in much of the draft process, all of the offseason activities, and part of training camp, did not have an injury when drafted, and citing the well known definition of injury red flag, is something You're Certainly Doing for some reason.

And then dismissing his execrable rookie season performance as either not relevant to or independent of his inability to, you know, do football stuff from (at least!) March until August and instead focus on a non-contact knee (!!!!) injury 18 months later as being the injury concern people had... Man. Definitely working hard out there, I guess.

You keep saying this but it's completely made up. It's something you have convinced yourself of.

Here's Beej explaining he didn't do much at the combine because of a HAMSTRING injury.


And here he is talking about it after testing at his pro day.

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You keep saying this but it's completely made up. It's something you have convinced yourself of.

Here's Beej explaining he didn't do much at the combine because of a HAMSTRING injury.


And here he is talking about it after testing at his pro day.

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He got surgery after the draft, bro.


There's nothing in there about BJ's participation in the Pro Day Drills. I've already posted that the draft sites never had a measured 40 from him. "Under the circumstances" in that video is doing a lot of work.
 

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He got surgery after the draft, bro.


There's nothing in there about BJ's participation in the Pro Day Drills. I've already posted that the draft sites never had a measured 40 from him. "Under the circumstances" in that video is doing a lot of work.

Yeah AFTER THE DRAFT. There's zero about him having a knee injury before the draft or getting one during the draft process. He had a hamstring issue, not knee.

You stated he got a knee injury during the process and it was known when we drafted him. Which is pure BS.

Here's Beej from 1:20 at his pro day doing VJ and BJ with a kNoWn kNeE iNjUrY

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Yeah AFTER THE DRAFT. There's zero about him having a knee injury before the draft or getting one during the draft process. He had a hamstring issue, not knee.

You stated he got a knee injury during the process and it was known when we drafted him. Which is pure BS.
Tell me you don't read the link without telling me you don't read the link:

"He had a little nick after the draft process, truthfully, between the (Scouting) combine and draft process," Gannon said. "There was a bunch of different options to go, and we decided to have a little procedure to get it fixed. We're going to be smart with him."
 
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