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I'm not in it just yet, but he di look pretty good with the third team. As opposed to the Saint who did poorly against that same talent. For what it's worth.

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My first thought was that Palko should be the #3, but that since Whiz kept St. Pierre from going to KC by promising him an open competition for the #2 he'd never cut him this year. It's a shame, because I'd like to see a lot more of Palko this pre-season...and (sorry mitch) a lot less of St. Pierre.
 

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Palko showed a lot of moxie and great pocket presence, unfortunately he also had about 3 passes tipped, one for an INT, and a couple others that could have been. Not sure if it is his release or not, but not a great sign.
 

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one for an INT,
His INT hit the WR in the hands. That one's not on him.

The thing I was most stricken with about Palko last night is his decisiveness. He got the ball out quick and with authority.
 

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His INT hit the WR in the hands. That one's not on him.

The thing I was most stricken with about Palko last night is his decisiveness. He got the ball out quick and with authority.

Hit the nail right on the head there.
 

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Palko was going against 4th stringers. Very hard to judge him at this point.
Funny. Those apologizing for St. Pierre's lackluster performance complain that "he was surrounded by backups."

You do the best you can with the hand you're dealt. Palko was surrounded by the lower 20% of the Cardinal roster.

All he did was come in and immediately light up a dormant Cardinal offense. Zip, zip, zip Touchdown? (I'll drink to that).

All I ask for in a backup QB is that if, God forbid, he has to replace Kurt or Matt, we can still win games under his leadership.

Palko showed indications he could do this. By contrast, St. Pierre (at least for 1+ quarters last night) did not.

Palko made good decisions. He displayed a good motor. He showed he could escape the rush. And (most surprising) he showed he could zing it in there when he had to.

No, I don't think he's proved he can challenge Leinart. But - based on the evidence - I do like what he'd be able to do for us in a #3 role.
 

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With Fitz, Gerald hayes, Stephens-Howling, and Palko, if we could just sign Tony Dorsett and Hugh Green we'd have a bunch of Pitt Panthers.
 

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I am a WVU fan, under no circumstances am I allowed to root for a Pitt player. Goes for LSH as well.

Now if they make the team I might be able to forgive them for their poor choice in schools eventually....:D
 

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Sign me up --- I am now a fan of Palko. He was a breath of fresh air after seeing BSP and his indecision. I love the kid's scramble ability, especially since he scrambles to find a passing lane, not to run ALA Fran Tarkenton. I wish he had BSP's height. This kid knows what he wants to do, but being so short he usually has to move in order to find a passing lane. His accuracy is uncanny, as is his decisiveness. Hope to see much more of him. If he keeps this up, he will be hard to get through waivers to place on the PS.
 

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He may never get the chance because of his height but he can play.

There are a lot of starting QB's that are tall that kinda stink, he's short and he's kinda good, I bet he could be better than a lot of starting QB's if someone gave him the chance.

I'd love to keep him as the third string QB, if someone was going to push Matt I bet this kid could.

He looked like a smarter shorter version of Jake out there, no boneheaded decisions but the same kinda moxie.
 

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Funny. Those apologizing for St. Pierre's lackluster performance complain that "he was surrounded by backups."

You do the best you can with the hand you're dealt. Palko was surrounded by the lower 20% of the Cardinal roster.

All he did was come in and immediately light up a dormant Cardinal offense. Zip, zip, zip Touchdown? (I'll drink to that).

All I ask for in a backup QB is that if, God forbid, he has to replace Kurt or Matt, we can still win games under his leadership.

Palko showed indications he could do this. By contrast, St. Pierre (at least for 1+ quarters last night) did not.

Palko made good decisions. He displayed a good motor. He showed he could escape the rush. And (most surprising) he showed he could zing it in there when he had to.

No, I don't think he's proved he can challenge Leinart. But - based on the evidence - I do like what he'd be able to do for us in a #3 role.

First of all I think that St Pierre looked like crap yesterday. This is no longer a race for who will be #2. That is settled now IMO and Lienart is the clear #2. Personally, that is how I always believed it would go.

On to Palko. We've only seen 5 minutes in the 4th quarter of the 1st preseason game of Palko. You are ready to give Palko a roster spot based off that? Yes he did a good job at escaping from 4th stringers. Yes he got the ball down field to a wide open WR. But come on man, that doesn't prove anything. Palko will make the practice squad this year and that is where he will stay unless god forbid an injury occurs to one of our other QBs.
 

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My first thought was that Palko should be the #3, but that since Whiz kept St. Pierre from going to KC by promising him an open competition for the #2 he'd never cut him this year. It's a shame, because I'd like to see a lot more of Palko this pre-season...and (sorry mitch) a lot less of St. Pierre.

Why not? I mean this as an honest question, not sarcastically or as a confrontation.

If Whiz promised him open competition for #2 and then he blows at it. Does that mean he is automatically given the #3? Because, I never heard the actual agreement they had so I'm not sure. But seems to me if we are talking really open that counts for the 3rd spot too and if Palko earns #3 by being better then Whiz is living up to the spirit of his agreement.
 

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Some teams don't even carry 3 QB's anymore, not if they can sneak a decent one onto the practice squad.

That's what I'd do in this case, cut BSP at the end of camp, try to get Palko onto the PS.

Go with two QB's and one on the PS, works fine and saves money.

The emergency QB thing I forget how that works but that's what in essence stops more teams from doing that, it's not a roster spot question I don't think, but it is a money question.

We have too much money invested in our top two IMO, that means in our case we should cheap out on the third option if we can, it makes no sense to pay BSP a million dollars, that's just bad cap management IMO.
 

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Some teams don't even carry 3 QB's anymore, not if they can sneak a decent one onto the practice squad.

That's what I'd do in this case, cut BSP at the end of camp, try to get Palko onto the PS.

Go with two QB's and one on the PS, works fine and saves money.

The emergency QB thing I forget how that works but that's what in essence stops more teams from doing that, it's not a roster spot question I don't think, but it is a money question.

We have too much money invested in our top two IMO, that means in our case we should cheap out on the third option if we can, it makes no sense to pay BSP a million dollars, that's just bad cap management IMO.

Remember what happened the last time the Cards only carried 2 QBs. Yeah that didn't work out so well.
 

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I agree with Conrad. I'd rather see another RB or LB. Ideally I'd also have one dude that could punt and kick (I still don't understand why this is an issue? Scout soccer goalies) to free up another roster spot.
 

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Remember what happened the last time the Cards only carried 2 QBs. Yeah that didn't work out so well.

It's not a problem unless you don't have one on the practice squad, they do all the drills, they are as ready as anyone and when the other two go down then you have to do roster moves anyhow.

It's only going to possibly hurt bad one game, the game both QB's get hurt.

But let's face it if your top two QB's go down you're done anyhow, no one survives that.
 

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It's not a problem unless you don't have one on the practice squad, they do all the drills, they are as ready as anyone and when the other two go down then you have to do roster moves anyhow.

It's only going to possibly hurt bad one game, the game both QB's get hurt.

But let's face it if your top two QB's go down you're done anyhow, no one survives that.

I started to nod my head in agreement when I read this and then I remembered that infamous Panther game from two years ago a little clearer. They ALSO had to go to a off the street Vinny Testavedre and if we would have had anyone even half way competent (including that same Vinny we were fighting to sign the week prior) we should have won that game.

http://m.commercialappeal.com/news/2007/Oct/15/vinny-deangelo-power-panthers/

And one game is all it take to miss the playoffs and jobs to be lost. If we had won that game we would have finished 9-7 that season IIRC. And maybe battled for a playoff spot.

I don't like wasting the roster spot though. Couldn't Boldin be used a as an emergency guy? Just give him some practice snaps just in case and go from there.
 

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I started to nod my head in agreement when I read this and then I remembered that infamous Panther game from two years ago a little clearer. They ALSO had to go to a off the street Vinny Testavedre and if we would have had anyone even half way competent (including that same Vinny we were fighting to sign the week prior) we should have won that game.

http://m.commercialappeal.com/news/2007/Oct/15/vinny-deangelo-power-panthers/

And one game is all it take to miss the playoffs and jobs to be lost. If we had won that game we would have finished 9-7 that season IIRC. And maybe battled for a playoff spot.

I don't like wasting the roster spot though. Couldn't Boldin be used a as an emergency guy? Just give him some practice snaps just in case and go from there.

We had that game 10-9 and our defense let that off the street over the hill Testaverde torch us for 2 TDs in the 4th on drives that started at the Carolina 10 and Carolina 11. 90 and 89 yards in the 4th quarter with a QB older than our coach!

Regardless of whether on not a better #3 would have given us a bigger lead, someday, somehow, I hope I get to see the Cards have a defense that can win games like that for us. Its been 15 years.
 

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Let's say Palko continues to light up 3rd and 4th string defenses for the rest of preseason. Does he even make it to the practice squad when there are teams out there that barely have a starting QB, much less a decent #2 or #3?

I know it's WAY early to make this call, but I'd love to see a legit competition between Palko and BSP for the #3 spot. Give Warner a couple of series in each game, give Leinart a quarter and a half and let the second half be all about finding our #3 (soon to be #2 when Warner departs).

JMHO
 

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