Oh Goody we keep Miller and Miller times up

[THESMEL]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/report/ARI/14685385/cardinals-report-notes-quotes

--Quarterbacks coach Chris Miller, who applied for the head coaching job at Southern Oregon University, will remain with the Cardinals.

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Chris Miller
Quarterbacks; born August 9, 1965, Pomona, Calif. Quarterback Oregon 1983-86. Pro quarterback Atlanta Falcons 1987-1993, Los Angeles Rams 1994, St. Louis Rams 1995, Denver Broncos 1999. Pro coach: Joined Cardinals in 2009.

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Mike Miller
Passing game coordinator; born April 9, 1970, Plum Borough, Pa. Attended Clarion. No college or pro playing experience. College coach: Robert Morris 1997-98, 2006. Pro coach: Pittsburgh Steelers 1999-2003, Buffalo Bills 2004-05, Berlin Thunder (NFLE) 2006, joined Cardinals in 2007.

 

[LarryStalling]

What kind of position did Mark Miller coach before joining our staff in order to be in line for OC?

 

[Jasper]

Are they related?

What troubles me is:
"No college or pro playing experience"

I don't know if he will get much respect from the players.

 

[azsportsfan01]

Are they related?

What troubles me is:
"No college or pro playing experience"

I don't know if he will get much respect from the players.

Somewhere on this board I have shown that a large portion of coaches don't play in college or the pros. If I get a chance I'll go look for it. You'd be surprised by some of the names of coaches who have never played past high school.

 

[BigRedRage]

plenty of coaches were not players, it doesnt take being a player it takes superior intelligence and gameplanning when it comes to football, x and o and motivating. To have played can help, if your intelligent too. Guys like whiz and horton were average players with incredible intelligence that kept them from being cut over the years.

 

[TJ]

Somewhere on this board I have shown that a large portion of coaches don't play in college or the pros. If I get a chance I'll go look for it. You'd be surprised by some of the names of coaches who have never played past high school.

I agree 100%. If a guy is intelligent, can read a playbook, scheme accordingly and develop excellent rapport with players, playing experience is not necessary. Take it from me. I didnt play football past Sophomore year and I worked with a college team last Fall.

 

[THESMEL]

You know what I like about the Millers coaching for the Cardinals?

NOTHING!

I think they can both be upgraded with little to no effort. Seeing how they were the Coaches that ultimately had input on DA, Hall and Skelton > Matty.

Whiz says its never been a one man decision on the Cards, I believe him they all suck. What team in their right mind would hire Chris Miller with only playing experience to develope Matt Leinart? DA? Hall? Skelton?

So they all had good years with Kurt! That makes them great coaches. With this playcalling we won inspite of these coaches not because of the coaches.

 

[Duckjake]

Somewhere on this board I have shown that a large portion of coaches don't play in college or the pros. If I get a chance I'll go look for it. You'd be surprised by some of the names of coaches who have never played past high school.

We talked about this in the minority coaches thread. Probably 60-70% of the coaches in the NFL have no Pro playing experience. It is just like most normal professions. Guys graduate, get an entry level job and work their way up.

In addition most of the coaches who do have Pro experience weren't big time players.

 

[TJ]

Mike Miller was just promoted to OC today.

THESMEL is not here due to a bad case of psychosis

 

[conraddobler]

Anyone who thought going with DA was ok, anyone, should of been fired, except Whiz, he's the only one who's done enough to survive that IMO.

 

[BirdMan21]

This is the same thing Whiz did with Haley, a year of watching, a year of splitting time, next year taking over. NO big surprises here.

 

[THESMEL]

1 year

No I'm TRIPOLAR not Psychotic, Whiz performed much worse at personelle, administration, motivating, scheming and playcalling than all the other HC's fired this year.

We hired him for 5 more years, Horton was a targeted hire and a bright coaching prospect.

I'm glad Whiz changed his mind and went back to an orthodoxed structure that other coaches, players and GM's actually understand.

Welcome to WHIZ WORLD where balance is crime and dysfunction is the game plan. He's not boring

Blink - Blink, Whiz's Calculated response.

So is Mike Miller the best OC available to the Arizona Cardinals? I think Spencer and Grimm are both better.

Anyone who thought going with DA was ok, anyone, should of been fired, except Whiz, he's the only one who's done enough to survive that IMO.

 

[BigRedRage]

kevin spencer the special teams coach? lay off the pipe!

 

[THESMEL]

OK

I think Spencer may be a better HC than Whiz and Grimm.
One fans opinion
He is more practical

Kevin Spencer
Special Teams; born November 2, 1953, Queens, N.Y. Outside linebacker Springfield College 1971. No pro playing experience. college coach: SUNY-Cortland 1975-76, Cornell 1979-1980, Ithaca 1981-86, Wesleyan 1987-1991. Pro coach: Cleveland Browns 1991-94, Oakland Raiders 1995-97, Indianapolis Colts 1998-2001, Pittsburgh Steelers 2002-06, joined Cardinals in 2007.

kevin spencer the special teams coach? lay off the pipe!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I agree 100%. If a guy is intelligent, can read a playbook, scheme accordingly and develop excellent rapport with players, playing experience is not necessary. Take it from me. I didnt play football past Sophomore year and I worked with a college team last Fall.

so it was you calling plays at OSU, and I was blaming Tressel .

 

[THESMEL]

I don't care so much about playing experience, I care about coaching experience and success. But to give the personell input for decisions that took us from a young SB team to the oldest dysfunctional team in the NFL in 2 short years, Geez

poor insight, poor coaching and makes poor decisions.

If He doesn't have the weebles to advocate for balance and fundementally sound game planning and play calling, He's not worth his salt as a OC.

If He hasn't got a clue its even worse!

 

[ARodg]

so it was you calling plays at OSU, and I was blaming Tressel .

I would like to thank him for making sure Pryor is back for next year. I don't know how the Badgers would compete if OSU didn't have one of the dumbest QBs in big 10 history.

 

[CardLogic]

I don't care so much about playing experience, I care about coaching experience and success. But to give the personell input for decisions that took us from a young SB team to the oldest dysfunctional team in the NFL in 2 short years, Geez

poor insight, poor coaching and makes poor decisions.

If He doesn't have the weebles to advocate for balance and fundementally sound game planning and play calling, He's not worth his salt as a OC.

If He hasn't got a clue its even worse!

The Cardinals had an older (average age of players) team during the Super Bowl season (2008) than this past season.

You want to rant, that's OK; you occasionally find an acorn. But try to keep it factual.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I am just glad the team has an OC and a DC and Whis can stick to being HC.

 

[BirdMan21]

THESMEL are you actually The Leenhart? Its the only thing I can come up with for your extreme hatrid of anyone that didn't keep him, and only The Leenhart would rate him 95/100 with the potential of 99/100 other than Matty himself.