Okay guys, time to shape up

[Mike Olbinski]

This board needs to seriously mature up or people will start being asked to take breaks from it, or be permanently banned. I know all of you are passionate Suns fans, and I appreciate it. But many of you are acting like you're in high school, and we're not going to stand for it anymore.

Examples of stuff I'm tired of: Racism posts when there is no proof or even a hint or racism on this team. Throwing around that word, or implying it, is a fool's statement.

Secondly, I just read a thread where Adonal Foyle's website was described as "gay". Well this is freaking rediculous. We have homosexual people who read this board, and if you can't respect others, then we wont respect you enough to keep you here.

I'm asking everyone to please change how you act on this board. I'm tired of it looking like a bunch of kids post here. We signed Nash, so someone makes a post in HUGE red letters to display his frustration. This just makes the board looke cheap and juvenile.

Hopefully you guys can cooperate with me and help accomplish this.

Mike

 

[pokerface]

I have a suggestion....

Maybe you should just delete posts that you find offensive instead of asking people to grow up because I dont think thats possible. People either try to get better behaved and forget or when things get heated they dont try at all and blame you for being harsh or something for warning them about it.

Maybe just delete posts and send them a private email about it. Or if thats too much trouble just delete it and let them figure it out because in reality most time they will have an idea as to why it got deleted and no explanation is really that necessary. If its borderline delete it and tell them why.

I dont think you'll go overboard deleting as you seem to be tolerant and are warning people ahead of time to behave. Lets not cut out too much friction though because a little spice is nice.

Anyway I'm just trying to be helpful....ignore it or whatever.

 

[binkar]

The monitors cant just go through and look for offensive posts all the time and they shouldnt have to. At some point some of the people here need to grow up a little bit.

Its not hard to do just take two seconds and think before you type. The people in charge here do us all a huge favor by running this site and giving us something to do all day long and the least thing we could do to say thanks is clean up our act a little bit.

 

[Dylan]

The monitors cant just go through and look for offensive posts all the time and they shouldnt have to. At some point some of the people here need to grow up a little bit.

Its not hard to do just take two seconds and think before you type. The people in charge here do us all a huge favor by running this site and giving us something to do all day long and the least thing we could do to say thanks is clean up our act a little bit.

Agreed 110%.

 

[pokerface]

You mean like that?

Joe

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Maybe you should just delete posts that you find offensive instead of asking people to grow up because I dont think thats possible. People either try to get better behaved and forget or when things get heated they dont try at all and blame you for being harsh or something for warning them about it.

Maybe just delete posts and send them a private email about it. Or if thats too much trouble just delete it and let them figure it out because in reality most time they will have an idea as to why it got deleted and no explanation is really that necessary. If its borderline delete it and tell them why.

I dont think you'll go overboard deleting as you seem to be tolerant and are warning people ahead of time to behave. Lets not cut out too much friction though because a little spice is nice.

Anyway I'm just trying to be helpful....ignore it or whatever.

No one has time to go around deleting all kinds of bad posts...at some point, you have to be responsible for your own actions.

I also wanted to fix the part about racism in my post. Talking about white or black players isn't racist, I didn't mean that...but just don't take it too far, that's all.

I'm just tired of the immaturity on here...let's get it fixed!

Mike

 

[JS22]

This place is slowly starting to look like the espn board.

WE DONT WANT THAT!

 

[Town Drunk]

I agree with you about the racism and the anti-homosexual theme. However, I do not agree with you on a couple of things.

First, you said something about the post that was in large red letters making the board look juvenile. Okay, fine. If you don’t want people posting in different colored fonts or sizes, then why do you give us the option? I see a double standard there. If it’s going to make the board look “juvenile,” then why give us the option? Why not take it away?

Also, you and others that participate on this board told a lot of other chatters to stop “whining” about the Nash signing. They were just voicing their displeasure over the signing, which is what they can do. However, people on here told them to stop whining about it. What, are we not allowed to voice our opinions anymore? Are we going to be categorized as “whiners” now? Just because someone’s view/opinion is different than someone else’s it doesn’t make them wrong nor should they be categorized as “whiners” because their opinion is different from someone else’s opinion.

 

[Dave64]

I will do my part to be respectful during my posts! Dave

 

[elindholm]

First, you said something about the post that was in large red letters making the board look juvenile. Okay, fine. If you don’t want people posting in different colored fonts or sizes, then why do you give us the option?

Heh, the board should have a "large font allowance," like only 10% of the characters in a post can be in large font, or something like that.

COOL!

Edit: I can't find anything in Mike's original post telling us not to "whine." It seems to me that he's addressing the manner in which we express ourselves, not the content we want to get across.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I agree with you about the racism and the anti-homosexual theme. However, I do not agree with you on a couple of things.

First, you said something about the post that was in large red letters making the board look juvenile. Okay, fine. If you don’t want people posting in different colored fonts or sizes, then why do you give us the option? I see a double standard there. If it’s going to make the board look “juvenile,” then why give us the option? Why not take it away?

Also, you and others that participate on this board told a lot of other chatters to stop “whining” about the Nash signing. They were just voicing their displeasure over the signing, which is what they can do. However, people on here told them to stop whining about it. What, are we not allowed to voice our opinions anymore? Are we going to be categorized as “whiners” now? Just because someone’s view/opinion is different than someone else’s it doesn’t make them wrong nor should they be categorized as “whiners” because their opinion is different from someone else’s opinion.

You don't like it, find another board to post on. The people that own the board have spoken.

 

[JerkFace]

You don't like it, find another board to post on. The people that own the board have spoken.

 

[slinslin]

This board could use a couple more moderators. Just an idea.

Joe_Mama can't do that all alone.

 

[pokerface]

This board could use a couple more moderators. Just an idea.

Joe_Mama can't do that all alone.

Or better yet make it a moderators only board. They can try to out do each other to be the perfect little doobie poster

 

[Chaplin]

You don't like it, find another board to post on. The people that own the board have spoken.

Geez, not like it's a moderator's job to make people feel comfortable, eh?

 

[Yuma]

Okay guys, time to shape up

OK, Mike! I HAVE let myself get totally out of shape! I don't know what I weigh anymore. I will take this as a wake up call to get in shape! I didn't realize there was a fitness requirement, but I take the hint!

Hulk can't touch toes no more!

 

[Mike Olbinski]

I agree with you about the racism and the anti-homosexual theme. However, I do not agree with you on a couple of things.

First, you said something about the post that was in large red letters making the board look juvenile. Okay, fine. If you don’t want people posting in different colored fonts or sizes, then why do you give us the option? I see a double standard there. If it’s going to make the board look “juvenile,” then why give us the option? Why not take it away?

Also, you and others that participate on this board told a lot of other chatters to stop “whining” about the Nash signing. They were just voicing their displeasure over the signing, which is what they can do. However, people on here told them to stop whining about it. What, are we not allowed to voice our opinions anymore? Are we going to be categorized as “whiners” now? Just because someone’s view/opinion is different than someone else’s it doesn’t make them wrong nor should they be categorized as “whiners” because their opinion is different from someone else’s opinion.

We give you the ability to have different font sizes and colors because it's fun, and you guys should be able to use it appropriately.

If we took away everything that could potentially be used for immature or rude things, you guys wouldn't have anything.

Take responsibility for your own actions...posting HUGE red letters that go down about 10 pages is just crazy. There is no need for that, it's juvenile..

Mike

 

[Mike Olbinski]

Or better yet make it a moderators only board. They can try to out do each other to be the perfect little doobie poster

Thanks, this is a great example of maturity...



Mike

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Agree 100%

It is becomming a hassle to read this board.

 

[pokerface]

Thanks, this is a great example of maturity...



Mike

Well prior I tried to be mature and helpful and it got promptly shot down.

Then Joe Mama comes along and "maturely" erases my other post where I was explaining things.

Seems like you guys just want to to scold and vent instead of coming up with a viable solution. You cant realistically expect everyone to watch what they say at all times

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

They run the board. It isn't about them expecting people to watch what they say.

It is really simple, if you don't watch what you say, you are gone.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You cant realistically expect everyone to watch what they say at all times

Actually they can.

It is called TOS. Terms of Service. They, the people that own the board, can set the Terms of Service to whatever they see fit.

When you log on, you agree to abide by the Term of Service. If you don't...they can remove your posts, remove you, whatever they like.

There is NO freedom of speech on a privately owned message board. You are simply a guest and should act like one.

 

[pokerface]

Actually they can.

It is called TOS. Terms of Service. They, the people that own the board, can set the Terms of Service to whatever they see fit.

When you log on, you agree to abide by the Term of Service. If you don't...they can remove your posts, remove you, whatever they like.

There is NO freedom of speech on a privately owned message board. You are simply a guest and should act like one.

Well of course...that was never in dispute. But for all the "TOS" rules people are still posting racism and other stuff so why arnt moderators exercising thier powers and deleting it? Why are racist remarks allowed to stay on the board? Its seems moderaters are trying to tell people what to talk about instead of doing something practical about it. Saying "dont do this" to the vast populace doesnt seem viable. Its like me as a cop standing in the middle of town screaming "Dont commit crime!" instead of arresting people for offenses.

 

[binkar]

Well prior I tried to be mature and helpful and it got promptly shot down.

Then Joe Mama comes along and "maturely" erases my other post where I was explaining things.

Seems like you guys just want to to scold and vent instead of coming up with a viable solution. You cant realistically expect everyone to watch what they say at all times

You can too expect everyone to watch what they say. Its not like talking when something you say just slips. To think about it and type it all out is a pretty thought out process. All they ask is you be careful what you say. These people operate a great board for all of us to use and get nothing in return. Just show you are a tiny bit greatful and atleast watch what you say.

 

[elindholm]

If we took away everything that could potentially be used for immature or rude things, you guys wouldn't have anything.

You mean like the "F" key?

I think I'll try to avoid using it in my next several posts now, just as an exercise.

(In case there are any doubts, Mike, I do support you in this thread.)