On paper...best Keim draft ever

Buckybird

Hoist the Lombardi Trophy
Joined
Nov 11, 2002
Posts
25,279
Reaction score
6,223
Location
Dallas, TX
You must be registered for see images attach
:mrgreen:
FYI:

My HS friend former Devils HC Todd Graham texted me those exact words Friday after we drafted Murray!!! You have to remember he coached against Rosen at UCLA & btw coached at Allen HS years ago & knows Murray well. He luvs the switch & pick of #1 :mrgreen:
Here’s his text lol
 

GatorAZ

feed hopkins
Joined
Oct 17, 2011
Posts
25,467
Reaction score
18,369
Location
The Giant Toaster
:mrgreen:
FYI:

My HS friend former Devils HC Todd Graham texted me those exact words Friday after we drafted Murray!!! You have to remember he coached against Rosen at UCLA & btw coached at Allen HS years ago & knows Murray well. He luvs the switch & pick of #1 :mrgreen:

He’s a winner! That’s very 1980’s scouting of you, Todd.

Rosen, Mahomes and Trubisky all hovered around .500 in college and two of them finished top-3 in QBR last year and made the playoffs
 

Azlen

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Apr 29, 2004
Posts
3,724
Reaction score
943
What's sad is trying to determine Keim's previous best draft class. Not a lot of contenders. Gets worse when you realize how they lucked into David Johnson.
 

RON_IN_OC

https://www.ronevansrealty.com
Joined
Mar 10, 2004
Posts
27,182
Reaction score
35,670
Location
BirdGangThing
What's sad is trying to determine Keim's previous best draft class. Not a lot of contenders. Gets worse when you realize how they lucked into David Johnson.
Maybe it also shows that BA had a very large impact on Keim's drafting...with all the small school kids and such...

This year may be the 2nd year that's [emoji817] SK!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
 

GatorAZ

feed hopkins
Joined
Oct 17, 2011
Posts
25,467
Reaction score
18,369
Location
The Giant Toaster
I don’t think he said anything that bad. I don’t really like Beyoncé either. Or whatever.
That said, you can’t put toothpaste back in the tube.

I know an ex nba player who said there are plenty conservatives white and black in pro locker rooms that don’t express it publicly. It seems like Bosa is more of just a ******* meat head than someone who’s gonna stir it up with teammates.
 

Buckybird

Hoist the Lombardi Trophy
Joined
Nov 11, 2002
Posts
25,279
Reaction score
6,223
Location
Dallas, TX
He’s a winner! That’s very 1980’s scouting of you, Todd.

Rosen, Mahomes and Trubisky all hovered around .500 in college and two of them finished top-3 in QBR last year and made the playoffs
It’s no biggie. Todd & I grew up in the 80’s lol

All I was trying to do was give a perspective of a Coach that has coached against Rosen & gameplanned him and personally knows Murray & recruited him as well.

Coaches, scouts, GMs & even fans look for different traits & intangibles for players & certain positions & that’s generally what they look for when trying to acquire an athlete.

Our philosophy of “winning” matters is only a piece of that puzzle & isn’t the be all end all, but does play a factor to some extent. They do “keep score” in this league & in sports so it does serve its role.
 

dscher

ASFN Icon
Joined
Sep 3, 2008
Posts
13,261
Reaction score
8,313
Location
Mesa, AZ
It’s no biggie. Todd & I grew up in the 80’s lol

All I was trying to do was give a perspective of a Coach that has coached against Rosen & gameplanned him and personally knows Murray & recruited him as well.

Coaches, scouts, GMs & even fans look for different traits & intangibles for players & certain positions & that’s generally what they look for when trying to acquire an athlete.

Our philosophy of “winning” matters is only a piece of that puzzle & isn’t the be all end all, but does play a factor to some extent. They do “keep score” in this league & in sports so it does serve its role.
Thanks for sharing that. Very cool. Todd was old school for sure.. but still neat to see old school guys get on board with the new school ways.
 

SissyBoyFloyd

Pawnee, Skidi Clan
Joined
Feb 1, 2012
Posts
5,077
Reaction score
2,384
Location
Mesa, AZ
Funny to me that Rs 1-4 went almost exactly like the majority of mocks I did for us over the last month. It kept coming up on the ones I did with Murray as our first pick with the exact players, Murphy always seemed like bpa at 2 with Isabella and Butler switching spots in R3 & 4.
 

ARZCardinals

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
4,151
Reaction score
699
Location
Behind you
The boat has 5 holes - All O line and you plugged one with silly pudy in the form of a late round pick....but you got a new interior and new paint job on the boat.
It’s still gonna sink
Too many holes

I know you aren’t supposed to reach, but you now have the same level o line as last year...just a new coach and a new qb.
It’s gonna be the same results when the D line is in the backfield after 2 seconds.

This ‘hype’ thread is dumb as every draft seems great after until you really look at it.

Good
Luck but the reality is your boat has at least 3 holes in it going into the water aka the season.

Aaron Donald and Bosa should be a happy campers
 

JeffGollin

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
20,472
Reaction score
3,056
Location
Holmdel, NJ
Answering the question of whether mgt felt our offensive problems were due to OL, WR or Rosen..

Question was answered by (1) making Murray the #1 pick and (2) drafting 3 WR's high..
 

football karma

Michael snuggles the cap space
Joined
Jul 22, 2002
Posts
15,245
Reaction score
14,305
This draft is playing well because:

1. No mid round WTF?!? picks. No Chad Williams or Brandon Williams in the 3rd when it seemed better players were there.

2. Seemed to max out value in each pick: Byron Murphy and Hakeem Butler. About the very lowest i saw Murphy rated was 30, with highs in the top 10. Butler was a solid 2nd round pick with the occasional late first round showing.

3. IF Allen and Murphy are ready to contribute, the defense ought to be pretty good.
 

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
63,593
Reaction score
58,005
Location
SoCal
He already apologized so everything should be PC.
Right bc that means he’s a changed person and won’t pull that crap again now that he’s been drafted.

I hope he expands his social awareness. But leopard and spots come to mind . . .
 

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
63,593
Reaction score
58,005
Location
SoCal
The boat has 5 holes - All O line and you plugged one with silly pudy in the form of a late round pick....but you got a new interior and new paint job on the boat.
It’s still gonna sink
Too many holes

I know you aren’t supposed to reach, but you now have the same level o line as last year...just a new coach and a new qb.
It’s gonna be the same results when the D line is in the backfield after 2 seconds.

This ‘hype’ thread is dumb as every draft seems great after until you really look at it.

Good
Luck but the reality is your boat has at least 3 holes in it going into the water aka the season.

Aaron Donald and Bosa should be a happy campers
Not really. They added olinemen in free agency. And as Krang pointed out, rookie olinemen take time to play. I’m not saying I’m confident in the oline just that your comment that it’s the same oline doesn’t really hold water.
 

Ohcrap75

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jan 3, 2014
Posts
1,270
Reaction score
723
I was extremely harsh about how Keim handled the Rosen situation. But when it comes to the picks made, I have to give him a lot of credit. A lot of high floor, high character guys. That's exactly what I was asking for predraft. Now Mr. Kingsbury, it's your turn!
 

devilalum

Heavily Redacted
Joined
Jul 30, 2002
Posts
16,776
Reaction score
3,187
Why should he do that? People are entitled to their political views. No one view should be required to be silenced.

I agree but there’s a reason why people generally don’t discuss politics at work.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Latest posts

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
553,681
Posts
5,410,696
Members
6,319
Latest member
route66
Top