OT: Eagles WR Riley Cooper in a world of hurt
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I honestly think we've become overly sensitive about WORDS & need to be overly sensitive about ACTIONS. I am an American of Italian descent that grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood in the 1960's. I was raised to not use the "n" word, but was called a "***" and "ginny" by both black & white alike. My parents were big on the folllowing, "sticks & stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you". Being called a *** only inspired me more to succeed.
Should we use racial slurs? Out of common decency we absolutely shouldn't. But it has to go all ways. It should be just as offensive for a black person to use the N word as a white person. Hispanics shouldn't use the S word referring to another hispanic, etc, etc. Lets get away from the terms Italian American, Irish American, African American, Hispanic American, etc, etc. We are all just AMERICANS!!
Should we use racial slurs? Out of common decency we absolutely shouldn't. But it has to go all ways. It should be just as offensive for a black person to use the N word as a white person. Hispanics shouldn't use the S word referring to another hispanic, etc, etc. Lets get away from the terms Italian American, Irish American, African American, Hispanic American, etc, etc. We are all just AMERICANS!!
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Ummmm................ nope. Maybe he was yelling back at someone who called him a racially derogatory person using a racial slur. Context is all I am looking for.
The NFL is a black sport?????????????????????? That sounds racial.
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Reading through this thread one can see a microcosm of the problem in our society. From profound to profane to poo pooing the story it shows just how diverse (one may say divided) people are when it comes to racial issues.
I am not pointing any fingers at anyone's opinion or any specific post(s) on this thread. I have found it quite interesting to read through it and try to digest the differing points of view. Any thread with Charlize Theron in it can't be all bad
I think that the bottom line is that the possibility, with some the probability, that some word be it racially insensitive, crude, vulgar or whatever is present in any of us who allow room for those types of thoughts/mindsets to dwell in us. I don't care if any racial, ethnic, gender, religious group banter about themselves in insensitive, crude or vulgar terms, I have to choose not to, for the betterment of myself. It is just not healthy or right to bear negative or hateful feelings toward another person, peridod. Maybe that is too old fashioned or puritanical for most in this day and age but, in my opinion, it is the truth.
Am I perfect in that? No, I am not. I have a hard time "turning the other cheek" and forgiving those who have wronged me. I have some beliefs that others hate me for and have a problem not lashing back at them in harsh ways. But, I am working on that every day.
Anyway, I hope Mr. Cooper doesn't just learn not to say the word. I hope Mr. Cooper can look inside and find out why that event happened, why did that sentence and word fly out of his pie hole? If he confronts whatever it is that made him even utter that offensive word, to the face of a black man no less, then he just may overcome that bigotry or bias he has inside him.
Sorry for the pontification. As I said, this thread intrigued me and I had to comment.
Now, back to football and the Cardinals.
Go Big Red!
I am not pointing any fingers at anyone's opinion or any specific post(s) on this thread. I have found it quite interesting to read through it and try to digest the differing points of view. Any thread with Charlize Theron in it can't be all bad
I think that the bottom line is that the possibility, with some the probability, that some word be it racially insensitive, crude, vulgar or whatever is present in any of us who allow room for those types of thoughts/mindsets to dwell in us. I don't care if any racial, ethnic, gender, religious group banter about themselves in insensitive, crude or vulgar terms, I have to choose not to, for the betterment of myself. It is just not healthy or right to bear negative or hateful feelings toward another person, peridod. Maybe that is too old fashioned or puritanical for most in this day and age but, in my opinion, it is the truth.
Am I perfect in that? No, I am not. I have a hard time "turning the other cheek" and forgiving those who have wronged me. I have some beliefs that others hate me for and have a problem not lashing back at them in harsh ways. But, I am working on that every day.
Anyway, I hope Mr. Cooper doesn't just learn not to say the word. I hope Mr. Cooper can look inside and find out why that event happened, why did that sentence and word fly out of his pie hole? If he confronts whatever it is that made him even utter that offensive word, to the face of a black man no less, then he just may overcome that bigotry or bias he has inside him.
Sorry for the pontification. As I said, this thread intrigued me and I had to comment.
Now, back to football and the Cardinals.
Go Big Red!
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No, African American works for Nash in a similarly twisted way to the Charlize example. Canada is also in North America.
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And there are no black racists in the NFL, right?
Where do you get that from what I said? I am sure there are black racists in the NFL but I didn't see any of them on tape at the kenny Chesney concert making themselves look like morons did I?
Just because there are other racists doesn't mean Riley Cooper is free to be one. he is obviously, but I'm free to call him a moron for doing it.
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Marcus Vick backed up your statements by being a moron too.
Sometimes I think racism is going to exist forever here in America just like it has for 2000+ years in the Middle East between Jews & Palestinians.
Reading through this thread one can see a microcosm of the problem in our society. From profound to profane to poo pooing the story it shows just how diverse (one may say divided) people are when it comes to racial issues.
I am not pointing any fingers at anyone's opinion or any specific post(s) on this thread. I have found it quite interesting to read through it and try to digest the differing points of view. Any thread with Charlize Theron in it can't be all bad
I think that the bottom line is that the possibility, with some the probability, that some word be it racially insensitive, crude, vulgar or whatever is present in any of us who allow room for those types of thoughts/mindsets to dwell in us. I don't care if any racial, ethnic, gender, religious group banter about themselves in insensitive, crude or vulgar terms, I have to choose not to, for the betterment of myself. It is just not healthy or right to bear negative or hateful feelings toward another person, peridod. Maybe that is too old fashioned or puritanical for most in this day and age but, in my opinion, it is the truth.
Am I perfect in that? No, I am not. I have a hard time "turning the other cheek" and forgiving those who have wronged me. I have some beliefs that others hate me for and have a problem not lashing back at them in harsh ways. But, I am working on that every day.
Anyway, I hope Mr. Cooper doesn't just learn not to say the word. I hope Mr. Cooper can look inside and find out why that event happened, why did that sentence and word fly out of his pie hole? If he confronts whatever it is that made him even utter that offensive word, to the face of a black man no less, then he just may overcome that bigotry or bias he has inside him.
Sorry for the pontification. As I said, this thread intrigued me and I had to comment.
Now, back to football and the Cardinals.
Go Big Red!
Nice post TRW.
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Once a dog-killer, always a dog-killer.
Obviously, some people don't view it this way but to many of us this was an unforgivable act. He didn't do this accidentally, he chose to kill dogs. I don't have to live his life and I'm not actively seeking any harm to come to him but I'll never forgive him. Fortunately for him, he doesn't need my forgiveness to get on with his life.
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I've always maintained that if he was ever on the Cards, I'd drop my tickets while he was in the uniform. Not the only one like that. I'd do the same with Rothlisberger and Mark Chmura. That's just me. Don't care for rapists, animal abusers or murderers. Skin color is irrelevant when it comes to those sorts of things.
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I agree although I don't remember all the specifics regarding Chmura (I know he was found not guilty but I don't remember how it all went down). I hope Roethlisberger and Vick get on with their lives and do the best they can to make amends for their atrocities but I feel no need to forgive them. I don't waste any time or energy hating them but I could never respect an organization who brought them into the fold. And you're right, it has nothing to do with skin color.
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Yep, what Vick did is something I can just never forgive. I've said it everytime someone on this board brings up let's get Michael Vick, I would not want that guy representing a team I followed. He has a right to earn a living and play in the NFL but you don't go from being someone who can kill dogs for sport, to being a "good guy" that quickly in my book.
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It wasn't that long ago that media and fans actually covered for pro athletes when they saw them boozing it up and acting like asshats.
Latest Eagle player to come out against Riley Cooper.
Word vs assault. Wonder if Cooper can't respect McCoy.
Eagles RB LeSean McCoy: 'I can't respect a guy like' Riley Cooper
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9275214/police-investigating-bus-incident-involving-lesean-mccoy-philadelphia-eagles
also being sued by his "baby mama" who he brags he impregnated ( not his words since he uses the street term out of non respect ) without even knowing her name.
Word vs assault. Wonder if Cooper can't respect McCoy.
Eagles RB LeSean McCoy: 'I can't respect a guy like' Riley Cooper
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9275214/police-investigating-bus-incident-involving-lesean-mccoy-philadelphia-eagles
also being sued by his "baby mama" who he brags he impregnated ( not his words since he uses the street term out of non respect ) without even knowing her name.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...ffers-perfect-time-to-evolve-and-learn-080113
Jason Whitlock of all people had a good take on this. Cooper said something dumb. Give him a chance to change. Or whatever.
Jason Whitlock of all people had a good take on this. Cooper said something dumb. Give him a chance to change. Or whatever.
Agree. And I find the "new" Michael Vick to be pretty disingenous about the whole thing.
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FWIW Herm Edwards on ESPN speculating Cooper may be out of a job soon if he can't patch things up. Teammates apparently ignored him at practice but Edwards intimated there was talk it was at least now impacting Cooper's ability to do his job because he was so emotionally spent from the fallout of what happened.
We'll see, if he was a great player he'd probably be given much more leeway.
We'll see, if he was a great player he'd probably be given much more leeway.
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A white guy says something stupid and he's a pariah. A black player says something stupid and he's a hall of famer. http://football.about.com/cs/news/a/aa101403.htm
I am confused. Sapp was pretty good. An idiot but still good at football. Cooper on the other hand...
And it is easily foreseeable that the two situations would be treated differently.
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Embattled Eagles WR Riley Cooper announced he is stepping away from the team "for a period of time."
Embattled Eagles WR Riley Cooper announced he is stepping away from the team "for a period of time."
