OT: Ereck Flowers

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Flowers to be cut by the Giants. He’s a terrible right tackle, but at 24 maybe he can become a guard. :shrug: Bring him in as an experiment on the cheap?
 

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Have not watched him, but the stats don't lie. He is definitely not a good tackle. Could he be a guard, only the experts know.
 

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historically bad at playing football...
his name says it all

eWreck....modern day disaster...let the dude retire in peace
 

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on one hand: Flowers has some Keim attributes to him: super athletic with ideal size. Lacked experience in that he was a basketball player who didn't play football until his senior year in HS, and then left as a Junior from Miami. So: a projection that says his tools + experience + NFL coaching= stud OL

on the other: rumors of a terrible attitude have dogged him his entire NFL career: Keim likes the high character guys
 

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on one hand: Flowers has some Keim attributes to him: super athletic with ideal size. Lacked experience in that he was a basketball player who didn't play football until his senior year in HS, and then left as a Junior from Miami. So: a projection that says his tools + experience + NFL coaching= stud OL

on the other: rumors of a terrible attitude have dogged him his entire NFL career: Keim likes the high character guys
Never should have left Miami if he wanted to be a long term NFL player. he was drafted on potential . Even bombed out at combine. Just a large body guy. Nothing else. Toss in a bad attitude for which he was known and that all means high bust potential.
 

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First, nobody is signing with the Cards who has playoff team options. Second this indicates how desperately short the NFL is of quality OL. Certainly line play has changed in college. This makes it difficult to assess the likelihood of them succeeding. That concern doesn’t make them less important to acquire. We all know the high percentage of failure of QBs taken early. Still teams keep taking them. They have no choice. Waiting for the next Brady is typically a losing strategy. I believe this risk now extends to the OL. That’s why I’m saying the only way to improve the OL is the draft. Even then it gets harder to have any reasonable odds of success the further you get from the top of the draft. So you bite the bullet and choose. No guarantees. If you trade down too far you likely lose. Fortunately the Cards have cap room this year at the exact time one of the best FA defensive pools will be available. This can be a transformative year if the Cards strategize properly.
 

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First, nobody is signing with the Cards who has playoff team options. Second this indicates how desperately short the NFL is of quality OL. Certainly line play has changed in college. This makes it difficult to assess the likelihood of them succeeding. That concern doesn’t make them less important to acquire. We all know the high percentage of failure of QBs taken early. Still teams keep taking them. They have no choice. Waiting for the next Brady is typically a losing strategy. I believe this risk now extends to the OL. That’s why I’m saying the only way to improve the OL is the draft. Even then it gets harder to have any reasonable odds of success the further you get from the top of the draft. So you bite the bullet and choose. No guarantees. If you trade down too far you likely lose. Fortunately the Cards have cap room this year at the exact time one of the best FA defensive pools will be available. This can be a transformative year if the Cards strategize properly.
I agree Harry. Recently i have also developed the philosophy the we should only draft OT's and centers..no guards...
Most college tackles project to nfl guards...many college centers project to guards...
So it increases your flexibility if you only draft lt and c... Imagine the middle of your line being three centers...if your center gets hurt you just move over the right guard and throw in a sub...
Would prefer to stick with LTs also sine lts often project to rt but rts never project to lt.
With so many speed rushers in the modern game your rt has to be just as agile as your lt...its not like the old days when you had the nimble guy on the left and the road grader on the right...
 
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