OT: Josh Gordon-Again

[NJCardFan]

You mean the complete fiction movie about marijuana? Nothing about that film is remotely true.

Did I say it was? If I did, please point to where I even insinuated such. I'll wait.


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[NJCardFan]

Well, if you think dying from progressive heart disease or diabetes is a piece of cake, you're kidding yourself.

JFC, again where did I insinuate such. My God you people are over sensitive.


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[GuernseyCard]

JFC, again where did I insinuate such. My God you people are over sensitive.


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You didn't insinuate, you stated your preference and I'm suggesting the result.

 

[Southpaw]

But the patriots signed him...but...but...but

He's not addicted he just doesn't care. He's a clown and he's gonna be that guy till the day he dies.

Really?

 

[Southpaw]

The hypocrisy in play here is numbing. Do not test for steroids/hgh/opioids but take a stand against a substance that grows naturally in our ecosystem. He knows the rules, but maybe the rules suck. If Josh was playing in the NBA this would not even be an issue.

 

[GuernseyCard]

But the patriots signed him...but...but...but

He's not addicted he just doesn't care. He's a clown and he's gonna be that guy till the day he dies.

I try to avoid posting on issues I don't know about - but, that's just me

 

[GuernseyCard]

The hypocrisy in play here is numbing. Do not test for steroids/hgh/opioids but take a stand against a substance that grows naturally in our ecosystem. He knows the rules, but maybe the rules suck. If Josh was playing in the NBA this would not even be an issue.

The issue isn't weed

It's WHY?

 

[NJCardFan]

The hypocrisy in play here is numbing. Do not test for steroids/hgh/opioids but take a stand against a substance that grows naturally in our ecosystem. He knows the rules, but maybe the rules suck. If Josh was playing in the NBA this would not even be an issue.

Lot of ifs here. The substance is illegal, right or wrong and he's not playing in the NBA, he plays in the NFL where it IS an issue. If the rules aren't to anyone's liking then they need to find a vocation where the rules jibe with their worldview. But as it stands in the here and now, testing positive for weed is against the rules in the NFL then you must abide by those rules. Keep in mind this is in the CBA which is agreed upon by both the union and the owners so it's not like it was some secret rule the owners snuck in there.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Lot of ifs here. The substance is illegal, right or wrong and he's not playing in the NBA, he plays in the NFL where it IS an issue. If the rules aren't to anyone's liking then they need to find a vocation where the rules jibe with their worldview. But as it stands in the here and now, testing positive for weed is against the rules in the NFL then you must abide by those rules. Keep in mind this is in the CBA which is agreed upon by both the union and the owners so it's not like it was some secret rule the owners snuck in there.

Well, if it's simply a weed problem it may be settled for him.

He's been approached by the CFL's Saskatchewan Roughriders, and as you may know, 'weed' is legal up there.

 

[Southpaw]

Lot of ifs here. The substance is illegal, right or wrong and he's not playing in the NBA, he plays in the NFL where it IS an issue. If the rules aren't to anyone's liking then they need to find a vocation where the rules jibe with their worldview. But as it stands in the here and now, testing positive for weed is against the rules in the NFL then you must abide by those rules. Keep in mind this is in the CBA which is agreed upon by both the union and the owners so it's not like it was some secret rule the owners snuck in there.

I was addressing the hypocrisy, not the legality.

 

[Buckybird]

I was addressing the hypocrisy, not the legality.

No hypocrisy here, he deserves to never play another down in the NFL! He can’t follow the rules...for the 800th time!

 

[NJCardFan]

I was addressing the hypocrisy, not the legality.

There's nothing hypocritical about it. They set a rule, the players(union) agreed to it. Gordon and others continuously violate this rule but I'm curious. What is hypocritical about the rule?

 

[NJCardFan]

Well, if it's simply a weed problem it may be settled for him.

He's been approached by the CFL's Saskatchewan Roughriders, and as you may know, 'weed' is legal up there.

OK. Good luck to him if he goes. Doesn't change the fact that it's illegal here.

 

[Southpaw]

Martellus bennet claims 89% of all NFL players use marijuana.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...t-89-percent-nfl-players-smoke-pot/508746002/

Banned, but Bountiful: Marijuana Coveted by NFL Players as Invaluable Painkiller

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...veted-by-nfl-players-as-invaluable-painkiller

per Jamal Anderson;

Anderson stays in regular contact with players now, and he believes the number of NFL players who use marijuana has grown significantly since he was a Falcon. He's not alone. Current players say marijuana use in the sport is extensive, with many using the drug to deal with the ramifications of head trauma. One player said in an interview he believes smoking marijuana helped prevent him from attempting suicide.


But what the hell?

Around the NFL




Brown: At least 50 percent of NFL players smoke pot

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A trio of marijuana-related arrests for the Detroit Lions this offseason is indicative of a more widespread problem plaguing the league, according to one former NFL offensive lineman.

Lomas Brown, now an ESPN analyst, claims at least 50 percent of NFL players likely smoke marijuana, according to a report in the Detroit News

"I just don't think you'll be able to curb this," Brown told the newspaper.


In Brown's eyes, this is actually an improvement. Brown claims up to 90 percent of players league-wide smoked marijuana when he began his career with the Lions in 1985.

It falls in line with some recent findings:

• Four out of 10 draft-eligible prospects from the 2012 class failed at least one school-administered drug test for marijuana; two in 10 failed multiple times, per a CBS Sports report from April.

• "About 70 percent" of prospects at the combine admitted to using marijuana, per an ESPN report.

• A 2009 report by the NCAA stated 26.7 percent of all football players admitted using marijuana over the past 12 months, the highest number of any athlete group they surveyed.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...-at-least-50-percent-of-nfl-players-smoke-pot

 

[cardncubfan]

Did I say it was? If I did, please point to where I even insinuated such. I'll wait.


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Did I say you did? If I did please point to that. I'll wait.

 

[cardncubfan]

No hypocrisy here, he deserves to never play another down in the NFL! He can’t follow the rules...for the 800th time!

One hypocrisy is they allow alcohol & it is far more dangerous. Do you think the players that committed domestic violence were more likely caused by drinking alcohol or smoking weed?

 

[gimpy]

I think it is very simple. Obey the rules. Obey the laws. Or, face consequences. Or change them (which I hope they don't).

 

[NJCardFan]

Did I say you did? If I did please point to that. I'll wait.

Chalk it up to a misunderstanding then.

 

[Buckybird]

One hypocrisy is they allow alcohol & it is far more dangerous. Do you think the players that committed domestic violence were more likely caused by drinking alcohol or smoking weed?

And yet the players bang helmets together to get pumped up, constantly hit each other in the head during games, know the risks of football & yet sue the hell out of the owners for CTE. Lol

Now that’s a hypocrite

 

[NJCardFan]

One hypocrisy is they allow alcohol & it is far more dangerous. Do you think the players that committed domestic violence were more likely caused by drinking alcohol or smoking weed?

Last I looked, alcohol is legal in all 50 states, Washington, DC, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and all other U.S. Territories. Marijuana, however, is not legal in all 50 states and is still a federal crime to possess, distribute, or carry it over state lines. So to imply that it's hypocritical for the league to allow the players to partake in something legal as opposed to something illegal is disingenuous at best.

 

[BACH]

Lot of ifs here. The substance is illegal, right or wrong and he's not playing in the NBA, he plays in the NFL where it IS an issue. If the rules aren't to anyone's liking then they need to find a vocation where the rules jibe with their worldview. But as it stands in the here and now, testing positive for weed is against the rules in the NFL then you must abide by those rules. Keep in mind this is in the CBA which is agreed upon by both the union and the owners so it's not like it was some secret rule the owners snuck in there.

Legal substances Can be doping. The same in every sport. 99,9999% of all professional bikers have a special allergy

 

[NJCardFan]

Legal substances Can be doping. The same in every sport. 99,9999% of all professional bikers have a special allergy

I'll never understand why some of you change the perimeters of the discussion when confronted with facts. The subject at hand was between the league allowing players to drink alcohol and not partake in marijuana. The fact remains that alcohol is legal in all states while marijuana isn't as well as still being illegal according to the federal government. Until that changes the league has every right to sanction players who refuse to abide by the rules that were, once again, agreed upon by the players union.

 

[cardncubfan]

I'll never understand why some of you change the perimeters of the discussion when confronted with facts. The subject at hand was between the league allowing players to drink alcohol and not partake in marijuana. The fact remains that alcohol is legal in all states while marijuana isn't as well as still being illegal according to the federal government. Until that changes the league has every right to sanction players who refuse to abide by the rules that were, once again, agreed upon by the players union.

The bolded is the hypocritical part. Btw, I thought the discussion was Josh Gordon failing again.

 

[GatorAZ]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...nt-josh-gordon-slipup-elaborate-security-plan

Sources believe that Gordon somehow eluded New England's security team during the Patriots' Nov. 18 bye weekend. Gordon was suspended indefinitely Thursday for violating the terms of his conditional reinstatement under the NFL's drug policy.

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