OT: R. Wilson a very lucky man

[TJ]

um...Dan, might not want to use the term shyster. lots of jews might get pretty offended at that. I'll assume you don't realize it's a common jewish slam, but just for future reference, might want to use a different word.

"Shyster" is Yiddish for "crook." It's not a religious epithet and not as offensive as you seem to believe.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

"Shyster" is Yiddish for "crook." It's not a religious epithet and not as offensive as you seem to believe.

If anything, it is German in origin, not Yiddish.

Yiddish words for crook include: ganf, schulik, schwindler, and schtok.

World Wide Words on the etymology:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-shy1.htm

 

[TJ]

If anything, it is German in origin, not Yiddish.

Yiddish words for crook include: ganf, schulik, schwindler, and schtok.

World Wide Words on the etymology:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-shy1.htm

German version is schessir (sp). Shyster was derived from that word, which is in fact Yiddish.

Schmuck ;-)

 

[oaken1]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shyster


shy·ster noun \ˈshīs-tər\

: a dishonest person; especially : a dishonest lawyer or politician













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Full Definition of SHYSTER


: a person who is professionally unscrupulous especially in the practice of law or politics : pettifogger


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Origin of SHYSTER

probably from German Scheisser, literally, defecator
First Known Use: 1844





yet another word placed in the un pc box due to ignorance of it's use....


IMO,...that whole pc thing was made up by a load of shysters!!

 

[Brian in Mesa]

German version is schessir (sp). Shyster was derived from that word, which is in fact Yiddish.

Schmuck ;-)

On the Origin of ‘Shyster’

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/130955/on-the-origin-of-shyster

Editor Mike Walsh denounced scammers who took prisoners’ money by pretending to be lawyers who would get them out. One of the scammers who actually knew something about the law disparaged his rivals by calling them shisers, British criminal slang for worthless people. (It comes ultimately from the German word for excrement.) Walsh misheard it as shiseters, and a new word was born.

 

[TJ]

On the Origin of ‘Shyster’



http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/130955/on-the-origin-of-shyster



Editor Mike Walsh denounced scammers who took prisoners’ money by pretending to be lawyers who would get them out. One of the scammers who actually knew something about the law disparaged his rivals by calling them shisers, British criminal slang for worthless people. (It comes ultimately from the German word for excrement.) Walsh misheard it as shiseters, and a new word was born.

BIM-you'd be hard-pressed to find many Jews who'd get offended by that word. Trust me.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

TJ - I never said anyone would be or should be offended by the word, I was just giving the etymology of it.

Is 'Shyster' Anti-Semitic?

http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/id=900005387204/Is-'Shyster'-Anti-Semitic?

To be sure, shyster is a derogatory term. It may even be defamatory. But by itself and without more, it is derogatory and defamatory to lawyers, not Jews. Shysters come in different religions.

 

[Cheesebeef]

"Shyster" is Yiddish for "crook." It's not a religious epithet and not as offensive as you seem to believe.

Not sure how to respond to this except to say I know a lot of Jews who think differently.

 

[desertdawg]

All depends on how use yous the words.

 

[desertdawg]

Fro.

 

[desertdawg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWSLM2lFjvg

 

[Cheesebeef]

BIM-you'd be hard-pressed to find many Jews who'd get offended by that word. Trust me.

I guess this Jew and a lot of Jews I know think differently.

 

[desertdawg]

I guess this Jew and a lot of Jews I know think differently.

We still talikn bout fros?

 

[Gee!]

This is all fascinating to me.. I think everyone by now should know where I grew up by now haha.. Not gonna go into that.. My mom never said one word about Jews to me my whole life.. Nothing negative, or positive.. It just never came out her mouth.. Jews were a mystery to me outside of my school taking us to field trips to the Jewish Comm Center.. Even then I didn't understand.. Never sensed anything was different.. They let us jump off there very tall concrete diving boards..

Back to where I grew up.. Wasn't any Jews in my neighborhood, except one family.. And they pretty much kept it under wraps from as far as I could tell.. He was a cool dude.. I went over to his house one day.. His dad came out and starting talking about something, maybe Ramadan? Don't even know if I spelled that right.. I didn't understand what was told to me that day, seemed so forgein..

Fast forward to when im 17, my HS took a field trip to a movie theater to Schindlers List.. My mind got open, like damn..

Its just a different struggle, for different folks..

 

[desertdawg]

What ever happened to the the A in between Jew and Fro?

 

[Cheesebeef]

This is all fascinating to me.. I think everyone by now should know where I grew up by now haha.. Not gonna go into that.. My mom never said one word about Jews to me my whole life.. Nothing negative, or positive.. It just never came out her mouth.. Jews were a mystery to me outside of my school taking us to field trips to the Jewish Comm Center.. Even then I didn't understand.. Never sensed anything was different.. They let us jump off there very tall concrete diving .

Ahhhh...the JCC! I pretty much grew up on those diving boards. And the more I think about it, the more I think ANYONE at Temple Beth El, Camp Shemesh, or the J would be really offended at the idea of not only Someone being called a shyster but a shyster lawyer considering that Jews are often looked at as lawyers. But hey, I only grew up going to Hebrew school, Hebrew summer camp and around my grandma who worked at the J so what the hell do I know about how Jewish people feel about certain things.

 

[THESMEL]

Well I hope She wasn't the glue that holds Russell Wilson together, He has done well with her! I think overall people accomplish more together as a family than as individuals.
But we live in a selfish self centered society!
expectations are premeditated resentments.

 

[Darkside]

expectations are premeditated resentments.

Cynical, but a great line.


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[BigRedRage]

,....but if one can detect the incompatibility early on and cut their losses they are ahead of the game IMO.

Agreed.

and I dunno about Shyster meaning Jew. Some may interpret it that way but thats not the definition of the word. Should we also stop saying loser, lazy and dumb too? Those might offend someone who is a loser, lazy or dumb.

 

[TJ]

I guess this Jew and a lot of Jews I know think differently.

Sorry you feel that way, but many Yiddish words/phrases have been incorporated into English vernacular, not just for Jews; such as shyster, schmuck, shalom, oy vey, schlep, schpeel, etc.

Now, if we're going to talk about the "K" word, then that's a different story.

L'Chiam, brother.

 

[ajcardfan]

I can't say in any way he's "lucky," divorce sucks.

That said, thanks for scaring me away from marriage, guys.

That's for sure. I'm going through one now, and it does suck.


Dads tend to get hosed in divorces. Unless the woman is doing really crazy stuff. That seems to not be the case here. So, I guarantee Wilson is going unhappy with what the judge declares for alimony.

 

[ajcardfan]

Not sure how to respond to this except to say I know a lot of Jews who think differently.

Here we go again. This is like the Redskins name change thread. People telling an ethnic group they don't belong to that a word isn't a insult.

Even I, as a gentile, knew "shyster" is not a nice word. No complement when you use it towards an individual or a profession.


I didn't not know it is a Yiddish word.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Man...I've been drinking too much the last couple weeks. Upon further review and asking a bunch of Jews today, looks like I am totally wrong! My bad folks!

Shyster-away!

 

[devilalum]

If anything, it is German in origin, not Yiddish.

Yiddish words for crook include: ganf, schulik, schwindler, and schtok.

World Wide Words on the etymology:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-shy1.htm

This thread has been officially BIM'd.

 

[Dan H]

Man...I've been drinking too much the last couple weeks. Upon further review and asking a bunch of Jews today, looks like I am totally wrong! My bad folks!

Shyster-away!

Guess I missed all the controversy. Everytime I've heard the word it's been in the context of scummy lawyers. Besides, most of the Jewish folks I know are doctors.