OT Rams apparently trying to hire Jon Gruden

[Russ Smith]

Saw it in my FB feed.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I hope they do. The guy is like Whisenhunt as a head coach. He only won when he had an already established QB and it is ironic he does the QB stuff during the draft because he does not know jack about developing one... he will be perfect for Goff lol

 

[GatorAZ]

I hope they do. The guy is like Whisenhunt as a head coach. He only won when he had an already established QB and it is ironic he does the QB stuff during the draft because he does not know jack about developing one... he will be perfect for Goff lol

Who were these established QB's Gruden had? Rich Gannon was a journeyman before he got to Oakland and then lit the league up. One year I think Gruden made the playoffs with Chris Sims. The Rams could do a lot worse than Jon Gruden.

 

[juza76]

Who were these established QB's Gruden had? Rich Gannon was a journeyman before he got to Oakland and then lit the league up. One year I think Gruden made the playoffs with Chris Sims. The Rams could do a lot worse than Jon Gruden.

Rams could sign frank caliendo instead

Probably never coached as head coach a stud but jetstream mentioned estabilished qbs
I think Gannon and Johnson were in that category

 

[Jetstream Green]

Who were these established QB's Gruden had? Rich Gannon was a journeyman before he got to Oakland and then lit the league up. One year I think Gruden made the playoffs with Chris Sims. The Rams could do a lot worse than Jon Gruden.

I'm saying he cannot take a young guy and even make him solid and what has Chris Simm's career amounted to, which is my point. He needs a vet. Tampa Bay was a great example, his tenure ended no different than Whis not developing a QB and hence he was released

 

[GatorAZ]

I'm saying he cannot take a young guy and even make him solid and what has Chris Simm's career amounted to, which is my point. He needs a vet. Tampa Bay was a great example, his tenure ended no different than Whis not developing a QB and hence he was released

I mean sure. It's difficult to develop a young QB when you're not given a young QB with talent to develop.

 

[splitsecond]

John Gruden is a good coach. But he is also the most overrated coach in the last 30 years, easily. How many times have we heard his name as the savior and end all be all of the current year's struggling team? How many times have we heard that he would be lured away from ESPN and change everything?

Gruden has a career winning percentage of .540 and cruised along in a terrible AFC West before cruising along in a terrible NFC south. He won a super bowl by inheriting an incredible defense that was assembled by Tony Dungy in Tampa when he was lucky enough to be pitted against a QB and offense that was installed by him and still ran damn near the same playbook.

Yes, please, Rams. Overpay that guy.

 

[Jetstream Green]

John Gruden is a good coach. But he is also the most overrated coach in the last 30 years, easily. How many times have we heard his name as the savior and end all be all of the current year's struggling team? How many times have we heard that he would be lured away from ESPN and change everything?

Gruden has a career winning percentage of .540 and cruised along in a terrible AFC West before cruising along in a terrible NFC south. He won a super bowl by inheriting an incredible defense that was assembled by Tony Dungy in Tampa when he was lucky enough to be pitted against a QB and offense that was installed by him and still ran damn near the same playbook.

Yes, please, Rams. Overpay that guy.

Which is my judgement. Not much different from Whisenhunt, who inherit Denny Green's talent and then had a hand in the front office and then could not find or develop a young QB

 

[GatorAZ]

Which is my judgement. Not much different from Whisenhunt, who inherit Denny Green's talent and then had a hand in the front office and then could not find or develop a young QB

They're really nothing alike personality or resume wise. Gruden single-handedly turned around a struggling Raider franchise and that's what got him the Tampa job. I was living in Tampa during that time and the Glazer family fired Dungy and traded for Gruden to get them over the top. They traded two first-rd pick and two 2nd-rd pick plus cash to Oakland. You will never see anything like that ever again.

 

[az jam]

Gruden has too good of a deal with ESPN to go back to the pressure job of NFL coaching.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

John Gruden is a good coach. But he is also the most overrated coach in the last 30 years, easily. How many times have we heard his name as the savior and end all be all of the current year's struggling team? How many times have we heard that he would be lured away from ESPN and change everything?

Gruden has a career winning percentage of .540 and cruised along in a terrible AFC West before cruising along in a terrible NFC south. He won a super bowl by inheriting an incredible defense that was assembled by Tony Dungy in Tampa when he was lucky enough to be pitted against a QB and offense that was installed by him and still ran damn near the same playbook.

Yes, please, Rams. Overpay that guy.

No, the Rams just fired the most overrated coach in the past 30 years.

 

[USAFMEDIC]

He says no way will he coach again.

 

[JeffGollin]

I hope they do. The guy is like Whisenhunt as a head coach. He only won when he had an already established QB and it is ironic he does the QB stuff during the draft because he does not know jack about developing one... he will be perfect for Goff lol

I hope they don't. I have a lot of respect fot Jon. He comes across as smart, tough and aggressive.

On a parallel topic: Don't you feel that the League and media is placing too much pressure on the Rams because of the LA market? From the standpoint of playing winning football, why should the Rams be any different from Tennessee or Carolina. Football ='Football.

 

[Bodha]

Not big news. Gruden is always in the HC talks every off season. Hes got a pretty cushy gig, I dont see him leaving it.