OT: The Raiders just got Screwed BIG TIME!!!!

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

That has to be the absolute worst decision by a refing crew as is applies to booth review!!!!

The guy has two feet down in the endzone and the tip of the ball hits the ground and the idiots call it INCOMPLETE!!!!

 

[Linderbee]

Absolutely stupid call. When his knee hit, he had 2 feet in and possession. At that exact moment the play is over. Touchdown. HORRIBLE call.

 

[Redheart]

Horrible call.

It just goes to show you that instant replay doesn't fix stupid.

 

[moklerman]

Bad call after bad call, game after game.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Horrible call.

It just goes to show you that instant replay doesn't fix stupid.

or biased...

It is no coiencedence that tough calls always disfavor the "bad" teams...

 

[Renz]

Absolutely stupid call. When his knee hit, he had 2 feet in and possession. At that exact moment the play is over. Touchdown. HORRIBLE call.

By rule, the play isn't over if the player "goes to the ground". He has to maintain possession all the way. If the ball moves at all while the receiver hits the ground, they will overturn it. Dumb, but that's the rule.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

How will Mike Pereira spin this one?
Or did he retire already.. I forget.

 

[Linderbee]

By rule, the play isn't over if the player "goes to the ground". He has to maintain possession all the way. If the ball moves at all while the receiver hits the ground, they will overturn it. Dumb, but that's the rule.

I thought that was only on "in field" (for lack of the proper terminology) catches; not touchdowns. Even still, it's a bad call, unless the "ground can't cause a fumble" rule doesn't exist anymore.

 

[moklerman]

He caught the ball with two hands, got two feet down, tucked the ball. That should be more than enough in the end zone. If he was extended or in the act of catching the ball without securing it I can see why the ground would come into play.

If this had been in the field of play it would have been a fumble, not an incompletion. He clearly had control of the ball and two feet down.

 

[Second Deck]

If it was anybody but the Raiders I would feel bad. They definitely got the shaft. Also the hit in the first game on Evans was as bad as the hit Adub had but since it was the Pats no flag.

 

[PoolBoy]

By rule, the play isn't over if the player "goes to the ground". He has to maintain possession all the way. If the ball moves at all while the receiver hits the ground, they will overturn it. Dumb, but that's the rule.

not in the endzone. remember jerheme urban last year? or the year before. yea i think it was the year before against the steelers. the refs messed this up bad.

 

[Stout]

He did maintain possession all the way to the ground. Both feet, his ass and the back of both legs on the ground. If that ain't a catch, nothing is.

 

[Renz]

not in the endzone. remember jerheme urban last year? or the year before. yea i think it was the year before against the steelers. the refs messed this up bad.

Ah, but Urban didn't "go to the ground" on that TD. He was standing up and the ball was knocked out of his hand. That's the difference.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I thought it was a catch. Heck, he even kept his hand under the ball as he slid on the ground with the defender on him. Weak reversal.

 

[Buckybird]

He did maintain possession all the way to the ground. Both feet, his ass and the back of both legs on the ground. If that ain't a catch, nothing is.

No doubt!!! It always seems like the rules are changed year in, year out because something else happens during the season that walks the fine line of the rules. Somtimes I think the rules are overmanaged by the refs instead of using common sense. It called someways by certain crews & other ways in another crew. I really believe sometimes some of the rules are put into place to give the refs a 2 way go...either right or wrong. So frustrating

 

[slanidrac16]

By rule, the play isn't over if the player "goes to the ground". He has to maintain possession all the way. If the ball moves at all while the receiver hits the ground, they will overturn it. Dumb, but that's the rule.

Unless of course you are on any part of the field. Why should it be any different in the end zone. If you have control of the ball . two feet down, or any part of your body other than your hand, it should be a complete pass.

Of course, you have to consider receivers have it made. If you are in the air, nobody can hit you until your feet touch the ground. Especially if the defending player wears red and the #24.

 

[Renz]

Unless of course you are on any part of the field. Why should it be any different in the end zone. If you have control of the ball . two feet down, or any part of your body other than your hand, it should be a complete pass.

It gets called when a receiver goes out of bounds too. If he catches the ball, gets two feet in, but goes to the ground out of bounds he has to maintain possession after he hits the turf. Otherwise it is incomplete, even though he caught the ball with both feet down.

We saw that in the GB preseason game when Long caught a TD in the corner of the endzone, but he dropped the ball when he hit out of bounds and the pass was called incomplete on review.

 

[TJ]

in the eyes of the refs, the Raiders will always be known as the dirtiest, sloppiest team in the NFL. I almost feel sorry for this team because officiating shouldn't be so lop sided, unless a team just isn't focused.

They say holding can be called on any play, but it always seems to favor the "better" or "more popular" teams. Like I said before regarding yesterdays game, I cant imagine that the 9ers didn't flinch on the line or hold one of our pass rushers. Not excusing the Cards as they weren't focused yesterday, but I refuse to believe that the 9ers were patron saints.

 

[Buckybird]

in the eyes of the refs, the Raiders will always be known as the dirtiest, sloppiest team in the NFL. I almost feel sorry for this team because officiating shouldn't be so lop sided, unless a team just isn't focused.

They say holding can be called on any play, but it always seems to favor the "better" or "more popular" teams. Like I said before regarding yesterdays game, I cant imagine that the 9ers didn't flinch on the line or hold one of our pass rushers. Not excusing the Cards as they weren't focused yesterday, but I refuse to believe that the 9ers were patron saints.

Too many times refs dictate games by what they call or dont call. They are as inconsistant as our Cards.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The game would be tied right now...Oakland had 7 taken away and kicked for 3.

 

[SuperSpck]

That was an awful awful call and doesn't make me trust NFL refs much.

 

[lauraw]

It was a terrible call; they called it like it was in the field of play instead of the end zone. I understood those rules to be different concerning time you had to have possession. Can't you just drag your foot over the pylon or even just touch the pylon with your hand alaFitz and the football? He came down with both feet and control. In the End Zone, at that INSTANT the play is over; the ground can't subsequently cause a fumble after he already caught it for the TD. The rule must read to the end of the play, but that seems wrong. If you break the plane of the goalline with the ball its a TD. I don't understand...