OT: Titans / Whisenhunt - Fired

[b8rtm8nn]

Whiz's biggest mistake is not with coaching, it's with his own stubbornness and not understanding where his primary responsibilities lie. Being a head coach is a lot of work by itself; taking over GM responsibilities is career suicide, which Whiz's has committed twice. This does not make him a bad coach by any stretch of the imagination, it's about him doing more than his job title entails.

Agreed, although I would add offensive coordinator as well. After watching him select a green OC in TN, similar to what he did after Haley left, and now seeing him fail to adjust the offense to match the personnel available - I think this is a case of him overextending himself and being too stubborn to realize that he is costing himself his job.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

And the Whis apologist crew continues to shrink.

The Steelers have easily the best record of picking head coaches....When they passed on him, we should have seen that as a sign.

"But....but....he took us to a SB!!!!"

If Whis had picked even an average DC and dumped Grimm, maybe I'd be inclined to give him some credit, but until proven otherwise, we were there in spite of him, not because of him

To be fair, though, we got Arians, after he was "retired" by Pittsburgh. Seems to me that even the best have their moments of whiffs...

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Not to the degree you think. Let me show you two examples:

Look at the Cardinals. BA and Keim have an understanding about staying in their own lanes. They've been asked on multiple occasions about that dynamic, and it's a mutual understanding about how Keim brings in the guys who will fit Arians's scheme. I think the only move that BA lobbied for heavily was to sign Drew Stanton. The team is looking at three double-digit win seasons in a row.

Now, look at the Eagles. Chip Kelly has taken over the reigns as coach and the person who has final say in player aquisitions and departures. He rids of a productive running back in McCoy in favor of getting Murray, who is struggling behind the garbage o-line. Kelly makes an unnecessary trade for Bradford, who's been marginal at best and is an injury waiting to happen. Kelly has basically overturned Reid's entire roster with only marginal production to speak of. Yes, he won 20 games his first two seasons, but as soon as he took over in the player/personnel department, the team has looked incredibly mediocre.

When coaches influence rosters, more often than not, it's a disaster. When coaches coach, and GMs GM, and there's an effective working relationship and mutual understanding between them, that's the ideal situation for any team.

Whiz's biggest mistake is not with coaching, it's with his own stubbornness and not understanding where his primary responsibilities lie. Being a head coach is a lot of work by itself; taking over GM responsibilities is career suicide, which Whiz's has committed twice. This does not make him a bad coach by any stretch of the imagination, it's about him doing more than his job title entails.

Another great example is the Packers...Ted Thompson is great at building and maintaining the roster...and what's his name coaches...lol

 

[dreamcastrocks]

And the Whis apologist crew continues to shrink.

The Steelers have easily the best record of picking head coaches....When they passed on him, we should have seen that as a sign.

"But....but....he took us to a SB!!!!"

If Whis had picked even an average DC and dumped Grimm, maybe I'd be inclined to give him some credit, but until proven otherwise, we were there in spite of him, not because of him

Pittsburgh passed on Arians as well for the record.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

To be fair, though, we got Arians, after he was "retired" by Pittsburgh. Seems to me that even the best have their moments of whiffs...

I like his wording - He says he was "refired."

 

[clif]

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[SoCal Cardfan]

Pittsburgh passed on Arians as well for the record.

And signed a guy who brought them yet another SB ring.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Ken Whisenhunt = Mike D'Antoni

 

[b8rtm8nn]

http://www.titansreport.com/topic/19850-hes-still-here-the-weekly-were-not-close-thread/

Oh, the memories you go through reading through their fans forums...

 

[Redheart]

So...I was wrong about Whizz...you could get rich picking against me.

The scary part is...I really like Arians and Keim. Sorry about that...

 

[TRW]

http://www.titansreport.com/topic/19850-hes-still-here-the-weekly-were-not-close-thread/

Oh, the memories you go through reading through their fans forums...

Wow, no kidding.

I will always give Coach Whisenhunt his due for getting the Cardinals to that Super Bowl, now matter the reason. He was the Head Coach and he gets as much kudos as anyone for that IMO.

He also gets the blame for the subsequent train wrecks on his watch.

That thread in Tennessee is deja vu all over again.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

And signed a guy who brought them yet another SB ring.

Using that logic. Everyone but Tomlin in the NFL is a bad coach.

 

[Jim Otis]

Coach Whisenhunt " WAS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS "

 

[RON_IN_OC]

This says it all in one post and pic:

 

[RON_IN_OC]

It's really too bad that Titan's ownership didn't consult ASFN a couple of years ago.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Honestly, this is becoming a comedy gold mine. Reading these comments brings back so many nightmares. I think, though, we could have fun, trying to match an ASFN'er to a comment from the Titans board...Basically, who does the comment remind you of on ASFN.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Luck has completely lost it...hot garbage this season.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Luck has completely lost it...hot garbage this season.

Wrong thread bro - we are trashing Whiz on this one

 

[Cardiac]

And the Whis apologist crew continues to shrink.

The Steelers have easily the best record of picking head coaches....When they passed on him, we should have seen that as a sign.

"But....but....he took us to a SB!!!!"

If Whis had picked even an average DC and dumped Grimm, maybe I'd be inclined to give him some credit, but until proven otherwise, we were there in spite of him, not because of him

The freaking Cards in the SB but let's dismiss it.

Whiz is a good coach, but a terrible talent scout. His demise began when he wanted a bigger role outside of just coaching. He's better suited for X's and O's. I hope for his sake he's relieved of the Titans job and goes back to being an OC.

I still appreciate all he did to help this organization become relevant. Undeniably, he set the table for the continued success we're experiencing.

Whiz got screwed by the QB situation and yes he owns some of that but no HC wins in this league with crap at QB.

Using that logic. Everyone but Tomlin in the NFL is a bad coach.

Agreed. Tomlin refires BA and then BA gets awarded Coach of the year twice since then.

I've defended Whiz forever and at this point his results in Tennessee are horrible but he now has is QBOTF so hopefully they give him time to right the ship.

 

[Jake6233]

Any NFL HC who goes 4-31 in a 35 game stretch can't possibly be good. I don't care what hand you have been dealt at qb or with the roster that 35 game stretch is worst head coach in nfl history territory.

Additionally in his last five seasons as a head coach (2010,2011,2012,2014,2015) his teams have had a losing streak of six or more games everyone of those years. That is simply staggering and I would assume he is the first too ever "accomplish" that.

 

[TJ]

Luck has completely lost it...hot garbage this season.

Blame Whiz

 

[Darkside]

I think the NFL is hard. That's why there's only 32 head coaches in the entire world.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Any NFL HC who goes 4-31 in a 35 game stretch can't possibly be good. I don't care what hand you have been dealt at qb or with the roster that 35 game stretch is worst head coach in nfl history territory.

Additionally in his last five seasons as a head coach (2010,2011,2012,2014,2015) his teams have had a losing streak of six or more games everyone of those years. That is simply staggering and I would assume he is the first too ever "accomplish" that.

This. And I like Whiz (to a degree) and thought he might be able to succeed with a strong GM if he stayed here, I think I got this idea from K9. But after watching the meltdown in Tennessee, he has bigger problems as a head coach that are likely never going to be overcome.

Remember - John Fox got the Broncos to the playoffs with Tim Tebow.

 

[Big Deal]

LOL! Fired!!!! He didn't outlast the Detroit HC.

 

[NMCard]

Bye Whiz. Your fired.