OT: TNF

[Hoodhero]

I thought Broncos had best Oline coach in league. Maybe we can trade Kugler back to Broncos for Von

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I thought Broncos had best Oline coach in league. Maybe we can trade Kugler back to Broncos for Von

The Bottom Line: Andy Reid is a buffoon for that play call. Having Mahomes dive into a pile in a meaningless game shows why he looks clueless in the playoffs. Good coach. But a moron

 

[HoodieBets]

The Bottom Line: Andy Reid is a buffoon for that play call. Having Mahomes dive into a pile in a meaningless game shows why he looks clueless in the playoffs. Good coach. But a moron

That’s a little much, every team runs QB sneaks. Mahomes is 9 for 10 on QB sneaks so it’s not like he never does it. This is the first time I’ve ever seen a QB get his knee dislocated on a QB sneak, freak accident.


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[Ronin]

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[Garthshort]

Just a week or two ago, we saw an older QB score on a couple of QB sneaks. Hindsight is 20-20.

 

[swagron]

Football players get hurt playing football.

 

[AZCB34]

The Bottom Line: Andy Reid is a buffoon for that play call. Having Mahomes dive into a pile in a meaningless game shows why he looks clueless in the playoffs. Good coach. But a moron

So then Kyler shouldn't play in any game since all the Cards games this year are meaningless?

 

[pinetopred]

The Bottom Line: Andy Reid is a buffoon for that play call. Having Mahomes dive into a pile in a meaningless game shows why he looks clueless in the playoffs. Good coach. But a moron

What makes the NFL great is no game is meaningless this early in the year. What makes the NFL suck you have a hobbled QB playing a Thursday night game, the Cheifs needed a win you do what you have to, to get a win I can't blame Reid for the play call. I could blame the NFL for Thursday night games more injuries happen when the body isn't fully recovered.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The Bottom Line: Andy Reid is a buffoon for that play call. Having Mahomes dive into a pile in a meaningless game shows why he looks clueless in the playoffs. Good coach. But a moron

Wow...BB must be the biggest buffoon of them all, then...since he has TB12 run sneaks in pretty much every game... meaningless or not.

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[PACardsFan]

What makes the NFL great is no game is meaningless this early in the year. What makes the NFL suck you have a hobbled QB playing a Thursday night game, the Cheifs needed a win you do what you have to, to get a win I can't blame Reid for the play call. I could blame the NFL for Thursday night games more injuries happen when the body isn't fully recovered.

I agree 100%. I'm not sure that anyone is a fan of Thursday Night football. I don't blame Reid one bit for the call. The Chiefs were reeling after 2 consecutive home losses. It was imperative that they pull out all stops and win this game. It'll probably take a serious injury to a great player for the NFL & the players union to come to grips with the fact that there is a much greater probability of injury when the body isn't fully recovered. Now, Mahomes doesn't appear to be seriously injured, but it could be worse than it looks.

 

[Buckybird]

The Bottom Line: Andy Reid is a buffoon for that play call. Having Mahomes dive into a pile in a meaningless game shows why he looks clueless in the playoffs. Good coach. But a moron

Getting hurt on a QB sneak is a freak injury, it just doesn’t happen til now.

He could’ve gotten hurt jumping up & celebrating a TD (FG), answering the phone etc. all of which has happened to the Cards in years past. A total freak injury

 

[AZCB34]

What makes the NFL great is no game is meaningless this early in the year. What makes the NFL suck you have a hobbled QB playing a Thursday night game, the Cheifs needed a win you do what you have to, to get a win I can't blame Reid for the play call. I could blame the NFL for Thursday night games more injuries happen when the body isn't fully recovered.

Except the injury had little to do with what day the game was played but rather just one of those things.

Point taken however. Thursday football is terrible for the players. Peter King had an interesting take on his MMQB column.

 

[Vacard]

No one was holding their breath when Murray went for the sneak Sunday. It was to be expected. I thought he was too small to do it lol.

 

[The Kraken]

You have a QB with a pre-existing injury that is already impacting his performance...and now will miss significant time.

You have to manage risk, there will always be risk for a QB who is mobile and a threat on his feet when a play breaks down and he gets upfield while improvising he will be at risk. But there is a huge difference between a scramble that wasn't called going south and a called play that puts an already injured QB into a pile of humanity.

I have NO idea why NFL teams do not train a TE (usually having similar same physical measurements) to take snaps under center for this exact scenario.

My .02

 

[gbrim21]

You have a QB with a pre-existing injury that is already impacting his performance...and now will miss significant time.

You have to manage risk, there will always be risk for a QB who is mobile and a threat on his feet when a play breaks down and he gets upfield while improvising he will be at risk. But there is a huge difference between a scramble that wasn't called going south and a called play that puts an already injured QB into a pile of humanity.

I have NO idea why NFL teams do not train a TE (usually having similar same physical measurements) to take snaps under center for this exact scenario.

My .02

If a TE takes the snap, the defense knows exactly what's going to happen. If a QB is there they at least have to defend against other possibilities.

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[BigRedRage]

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[The Kraken]

If a TE takes the snap, the defense knows exactly what's going to happen. If a QB is there they at least have to defend against other possibilities.

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Who the heck cares if they know... If you have less than a yard to go, a 6'5", 240 lb human being driving behind three 300+ humans should be able to pick up the first down.

Or, you can continue to endanger your already hurt franchise QBs health...

 

[HoodieBets]

Who the heck cares if they know... If you have less than a yard to go, a 6'5", 240 lb human being driving behind three 300+ humans should be able to pick up the first down.

Or, you can continue to endanger your already hurt franchise QBs health...

The amount of times Kelce has taken a snap under center is probably zero. Also the injury to Mahomes was a different leg. If you are so worried that he gets hurt you don’t play him at all but then again you can say that about every QB in the league.


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[The Kraken]

The amount of times Kelce has taken a snap under center is probably zero. Also the injury to Mahomes was a different leg. If you are so worried that he gets hurt you don’t play him at all but then again you can say that about every QB in the league.


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A. Travis Kelce was a HS QB *as was Blake Bell, the other TE*
B. Even if he wasn't, you are not teaching him brain surgery, it is a center-QB exchange...
C. Nobody is saying that you need to bubble wrap these guys, but when you go into a game with a pre-existing injury that is affecting your performance, maybe you do not subject that QB to that risk...

But hey, what do I know... I am sure Matt Moore will lead them to the superbowl.

 

[Buckybird]

A. Travis Kelce was a HS QB *as was Blake Bell, the other TE*
B. Even if he wasn't, you are not teaching him brain surgery, it is a center-QB exchange...
C. Nobody is saying that you need to bubble wrap these guys, but when you go into a game with a pre-existing injury that is affecting your performance, maybe you do not subject that QB to that risk...

But hey, what do I know... I am sure Matt Moore will lead them to the superbowl.

Bottom line 1 injury had nothing to do with the other injury. Nuff said, case closed, freakish injury

 

[HoodieBets]

A. Travis Kelce was a HS QB *as was Blake Bell, the other TE*
B. Even if he wasn't, you are not teaching him brain surgery, it is a center-QB exchange...
C. Nobody is saying that you need to bubble wrap these guys, but when you go into a game with a pre-existing injury that is affecting your performance, maybe you do not subject that QB to that risk...

But hey, what do I know... I am sure Matt Moore will lead them to the superbowl.

I’d center QB exchange was so easy more colleges would do it. It’s not easy and can lead to fumbles. That would be like saying if Tom Brady got hurt on a sneak that they should have had Edelman do it bc he was a college QB and you don’t want Brady injured even though he has done it for over 10 years now.


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[The Kraken]

I’d center QB exchange was so easy more colleges would do it. It’s not easy and can lead to fumbles. That would be like saying if Tom Brady got hurt on a sneak that they should have had Edelman do it bc he was a college QB and you don’t want Brady injured even though he has done it for over 10 years now.


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College teams do not use the center exchange for a multitude of reasons...pre-snap reads, disguising patterns (vice the D reading a 3, 5, 7 step drop), RPOs, zone reads, etc... Taking the snap isn't one of them... that is why in victory formation the center snaps the ball to the QB and doesn't shotgun it...

Edelmen is 5'10", 198 and Tom Brady is 6'4" 225, apples and oranges. ... your average TE is 6'4"-6'6" and 240-260... who do you want powering behind the line to gain a half a yard?

But hey, this was solely my opinion. PM doesn't get hurt in a pile up if he is not in it... The Chiefs now have to make do with Matt Moore.

 

[BW52]

Getting hurt on a QB sneak is a freak injury, it just doesn’t happen til now.

He could’ve gotten hurt jumping up & celebrating a TD (FG), answering the phone etc. all of which has happened to the Cards in years past. A total freak injury

LMAO.When I read that the image that comes to mind is Bill Gramatica calling Thomas Jones to tell him about making the FG.

 

[Ronin]

Ian Rapoport
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The MRI has confirmed the #Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes suffered a dislocated kneecap, but not significant additional damage, sources tell me and
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. He’ll seek additional opinions to be sure. The plan is for him to return this season after a brief absence.

 

[Russ Smith]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

The MRI has confirmed the #Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes suffered a dislocated kneecap, but not significant additional damage, sources tell me and
@JamesPalmerTV
. He’ll seek additional opinions to be sure. The plan is for him to return this season after a brief absence.

Google says 6 weeks. I'm assuming that's because of swelling. having had surgery twice for patellar tendons the kneecap(patella) is actually attached to the patellar tendon, which is a ligament not a tendon. So if the patella tendon is NOT torn, then he's lucky and should be able to come back this year. They're saying no significant additional damage so that probably means just swelling no tear.