phillycard
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Hey, I'm happy for VJ and wish him the best. I'm not going to say a bad thing about that man on the way out as there's been enough vitriol spoken on his name during his time with us. Time to move forward.
OT: Vance Joseph hired as the Broncos new DC
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Least he is out of az his def was atrocious
Wishing him best of luck in den though den fans are gonna hate tight ends now
Wishing him best of luck in den though den fans are gonna hate tight ends now
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Does this mean Billy Davis is going with him?
blindseyed
I'm saying you ARE stuck in Wichita
Wow these are brutal brutal lol
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He is nothing special. Never did half time adjustments or really helped develop the young players.
Big_Red_One
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I wish him well and think his salary is off the books for the Cards.
Perhaps now we will see our first round draft picks contribute during their rookie year on defense!
Perhaps now we will see our first round draft picks contribute during their rookie year on defense!
I guess we can assume if Payton was hired he would have remained our DC, so there’s that.
Solar7
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My best buddy's wife is a Broncos fan, and texted me to say I could have visitation rights for Vance on Sundays because she didn't want to see him.
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I doubt it. I think Fangio waffling on the Dolphins was because he was truly waiting to see if Payton landed in AZ.
mobyhammy
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I harbor no hate for that man. He had a horrible roster last year. Not many DCs would have done better.
Totally_Red
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He was hamstrung by a very weak CB group especially after Murphy went down. They couldn't play man or zone. He didn't help, but the roster is very weak on the defensive side of the ball.
I don't think he's a bad coach, not great, but not bad. He just doesn't strike me as a great leader. Having Payton as a head coach might be what he needs to succeed and I hope he does.
mobyhammy
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You're right about that. Apart from Baker, the whole secondary was questionable. It wasn't VJ's fault that we lost Chandler Jones, Hassan Reddick, Patrick Peterson among others, and that Watt was injured for most of his time here.
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Are we sure about that? I know Keim was the GM, but I'm sure he doesn't make all of the decisions in a vacuum. I'm sure he had input from Vance, positional coaches etc.
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As a Broncos fan, not happy. Joseph is a terrible coach. Denver should be embarrassed that Cardinals fans get to laugh at them. I hope Keim doesn't end up as our next GM.
Outerlimits
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It does suck that you guys went from such a great DC to Vance Joseph. You better hope Payton gets the offense rolling because chances are the defense will regress some.
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That doesn't seem like a very exciting group of coordinators. I guess with Payton at the helm...
Krangodnzr
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Chargers fans absolutely hated Lombardi and obviously Cardinals fans hated Vance.
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Still waiting on official word that Billy Davis is gone.
I want to see it officially posted
His staff so far looks dubious
How would we feel with that staff after getting all excited about Payton?
It's possible Fangio was in play for us and not for the Broncos. We heard nothing of him until essentially SP made up his mind.
Lombardi was with him in NO and we expected Payton to call plays anyway, so that was the speculation after he was let go.
