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don7031
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How about just upgrading the offense line?
If only they had "QBs for the Rams games" and Carson Palmer.
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FTFY, cause our offensive tackles are really good.
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Well, it's been mentioned at least a dozen times, so I'll make it 13 or so...
Palmer's injury was non contact.
Stanton's injury came on what looked to be a completely routine tackle.
QB's are gonna get hit, no matter how elite your line is.
Our line could use improving, but unlike the last several decades, O-line is far from our greatest need.
41 sacks allowed in 2013 - Carson Palmer started every game
28 sacks allowed in 2014 - Three different starting qbs
Think its just bad luck even though the offensive line needs some improvement
Though of course you can take into account qb hits but I wouldn't be surprised if those decreased as well
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TJ
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Meh. It's more fun to call the Rams "dirty" for injuring our QBs.
Dirty bastards.
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Carson Palmer was injured avoiding the edge rusher that Bobbie Massie failed to pick up. Watch the play. The Cardinals adjusted the protection to account for the edge rusher. The three interior lineman slid the protection to the right. But Massie blocked left.
Massie also was solely responsible for sending Stanton to the locker room in the Denver game.
After his debacle in Seattle, the Cardinals utilized a guard and running back to pick up the edge rusher in Atlanta. They had to take a back out of the pattern because they can't trust Massie to handle speed off the edge. And speaking of taking a receiver out of the pattern. How many times did we see first ballot hall of fame wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald covering the edge for Massie? The best receiver in team history and he's blocking on pass plays because Massie can't do his job!
Right tackle is the number one need on this team.
Massie also was solely responsible for sending Stanton to the locker room in the Denver game.
After his debacle in Seattle, the Cardinals utilized a guard and running back to pick up the edge rusher in Atlanta. They had to take a back out of the pattern because they can't trust Massie to handle speed off the edge. And speaking of taking a receiver out of the pattern. How many times did we see first ballot hall of fame wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald covering the edge for Massie? The best receiver in team history and he's blocking on pass plays because Massie can't do his job!
Right tackle is the number one need on this team.
Zeno
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You can beat that drum all you want but nobody thinks that is even remotely close to being the truth.
OT is way down the list of priorities this offseason. Considering the pas rushers faced and the deep drops this offense calls for the fact that they only surrendered 28 sacks is impressive.
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Great point.
The O-line was great this year considering the QB carousal.
They were under fire for a lacklaster run game late in season, but Ellington going on IR showed that to be more on the injured player.
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Very ironic that Palmer played every snap last year (or close to it) while we had Levi and Sowell playing LT. OMG the horror show that was our LT position and now Veldheer has a pro bowl caliber year and we get our top 2 QB's hurt.
Massie has had a solid year and I expect him to continue to improve. Having said that I'm all for drafting a LT early in the draft and letting him compete for either OT starting position. Zero doubt in my mine that the Hulk would be a fantastic RT.
Massie has had a solid year and I expect him to continue to improve. Having said that I'm all for drafting a LT early in the draft and letting him compete for either OT starting position. Zero doubt in my mine that the Hulk would be a fantastic RT.
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I hope no one thinks the line is fine after one year of improved stats.
It should be a priority to improve it whenever possible.
It should be a priority to improve it whenever possible.
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was a safety blitz
they allowed just 28 sacks ,6th team in the league
i guess he would have torn acl in another action
the ligament i think was already damaged
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I don't think an upgraded line helps much, though I'm a proponent of building inside out, from both lines outward.
BA has on offense that almost guarantees your QB will take shots. Every time. Happened everywhere he's been. Pitt and the Colts included. Part of the reason Pitt got rid of him, contrary to belief that Tomlin had some personal issue, is that Big Ben got beat to hell under BA.
Your QB is going to get hit under BA. A lot. He goes for home runs and that's just how it is. Beat to hell.
Palmer's injury had nothing to do with getting hit though, and Stanton got injured on the only sack of that game...
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Improving the offensive line is something every team does. However, since the Cards moved to AZ the Oline has always been a problem. But this was the first year the sum was better than the individual parts.
Sacks are going to happen, pressure is going to happen, false starts are going to happen, blitzes are going to happen and holding calls are going to happen. That being said I thought this was the best overall line the franchise has had since moving here. Especially considering the defenses it faced during the season.
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I agree 100%, in fact I can't even throw a particular year out there for the second best O-line (since AZ) for comparison.
Anyone?
Nope, I feel the same way. This was by far the most time I have ever seen the Cards QBs have to throw the ball. Hope the can keep it together or even add to it and make it better.
