Our franchise QB

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Let’s say he gets the first down. What happens next. Likely spikes it anyways. Than what? Can’t run with no timeouts. Pass? Potential sack or pick? Was gonna be a fg attempt regardless.

What happens next is 1 or 2 attempts at a sideline pass that absolutely has to go out of bounds or the clock runs out. Low probability but MAYBE you pick up 5 - 10 yards (and maybe you get tackled in bounds and lose the game).

Bottom line, when you get the ball with under 2 minutes and no timeouts (of course its the Cardinals and EVERYTHING has to go wrong, including a player getting his wind knocked out on defense resulting in a forced timeout), you have to drive for a manageable field goal attempt. We did that. He missed.

 

[QuebecCard]

No thanks. I don't want a coward like that leading my team. Fire KK and Keim and replace them with competent personnel (hopefully), then trade KM to a team dumb enough to offer up a haul, if there is a team that dumb. We're not going anywhere with KM so there's no point wasting another couple of years with him.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

you have to drive for a manageable field goal attempt. We did that. He missed.

When the kicker is 2 for 9 from 40+, 43 yards is unfortunately not manageable.

 

[Zalixar]

When the kicker is 2 for 9 from 40+, 43 yards is unfortunately not manageable.

Let alone a game winning/tying FG. It takes a particular mental fortitude, aside from skill, to certainly to be in manageable territory.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[DaHilg]

Do you know that KM knew that the kicker was missing from the same spot?

No I don’t but that’s rather irrelevant - he was a street kicker. No reason to trust him.. that Kyler should have 100% known

 

[Brian in Mesa]

No I don’t but that’s rather irrelevant - he was a street kicker. No reason to trust him.. that Kyler should have 100% known

The fact that both the HC and the QB were laser-focused on settling for a FG is very telling.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You're not wrong, but year 4 Kyler needs to close those deals. My belief in him is higher than the other pieces around him. When he doesnt come through it makes me question if the gap is not nearly as wide as I thought.


I will say it is concerning if Kliff was truly playing for a FG. It seems we were going to run the ball anyway on the next play. And if so then yea the kicker was going to miss anyway.

The story is actually better if its just a Kyler issue. Cause then well he needs to grow up. If Kliff is having issues as well then we've got a long way to go.

That’s the biggest issue… it’s both a Kyler AND a Kliff problem. And the reason why it’s a major problem is that those problems (sliding before first downs/bad situational awareness end of games and laying up for a mid range or long FG instead of playing to win) have plagued us for three years now.

Nothing is changing in end of close game scenarios with Kyler and Kliff.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Under two minutes a player injured is an auto timeout. Jalen was down with the wind knocked out of him and received medical attention on the field.

Which is stupid. The clock was already stopped. It isn't like the team is gaining an advantage. I hate that they changed that rule.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Let alone a game winning/tying FG. It takes a particular mental fortitude, aside from skill, to certainly to be in manageable territory.

I knew we were going to miss it as soon as they started showing clips of Ammendola missing the kicks pre-game. Jinx of the highest order.

 

[Zalixar]

I knew we were going to miss it as soon as they started showing clips of Ammendola missing the kicks pre-game. Jinx of the highest order.

No such thing. He's just a bad kicker who can't kick under pressure.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

No such thing. He's just a bad kicker who can't kick under pressure.

There is and I said it.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

No such thing. He's just a bad kicker who can't kick under pressure.

Come on. We all knew we were going to shank city the second that he walked out on the field. Lol.. Knew it like we knew the sun was going to rise in the East this morning. Felt it in our bones. It was our destiny as Cardinals fans.

 

[Zalixar]

Come on. We all knew we were going to shank city the second that he walked out on the field. Lol.. Knew it like we knew the sun was going to rise in the East this morning. Felt it in our bones. It was our destiny as Cardinals fans.

Right. But how is that a jinx? He's just a bad kicker making a bad kick. Not even surprising.

I don't really blame the kid for missing, but it still sucks.

 

[Zalixar]

There is and I said it.

Twice now.

A bad kicker missing a fg isn't a jinx lmao. I get if you believe in jinxes, but this doesn't really fit a jinx scenario.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Right. But how is that a jinx? He's just a bad kicker making a bad kick. Not even surprising.

I don't really blame the kid for missing, but it still sucks.

Did you watch the commentary leading up to the miss?

 

[Zalixar]

Did you watch the commentary leading up to the miss?

Amazing how much power commentators have by just talking, disregarding all other broadcasts and hundreds of thousands of people watching.

Have you seen his kicks in previous games?

Have you seen him on an NFL team before this?

Did you see him in warmups?

Do you think he will ever land an NFL job again?

A jinx is more of, this kicker made 30 in a row, then misses. Which still isn't a jinx cause you can say that forever (31, 32) and yeah eventually you will be right and casually forget all the times you were wrong.

A bad kicker missing a pressure kick is like saying water is wet.

 

[DVontel]

Which is stupid. The clock was already stopped. It isn't like the team is gaining an advantage. I hate that they changed that rule.

Not all the time.

The player could be faking or over-exaggerating the injury which gives the team more time to prep & the opposing team to lose momentum.

College coaches do it a lot.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Not all the time.

The player could be faking or over-exaggerating the injury which gives the team more time to prep & the opposing team to lose momentum.

College coaches do it a lot.

They were doing it in the NFL a lot also which is why the rule was instituted.

 

[BritCard]

Sure he did. The play before the pass to Green that was intercepted

Ok, so he did. But every time he screws up a run someone says "Yeah but he could have got hurt". But there is a far, far, far higher possibility he won't get hurt and should just make the play so we can actually win the game. Which is the point.

 

[BritCard]

I don't blame the kicker at all. We didn't deserve to win or have a shot to win for how the last drive was handled.

 

[Bkbobo]

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Didn't Kyler have an injury during training camp. If so, I wonder if that is limiting his long throws. Just a thought

 

[FB94]

I don't blame the kicker at all. We didn't deserve to win or have a shot to win for how the last drive was handled.

Sure the last drive ending the way it did sucked, but this game was lost in the first quarter

 

[Zalixar]

Sure the last drive ending the way it did sucked, but this game was lost in the first quarter

That's why there is 4 quarters. We had a good shot to win or at least push to OT. Just a series of errors and counting on an inaccurate off the street kicker. Just unfortunate.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

They were doing it in the NFL a lot also which is why the rule was instituted.

Right, but they were doing it to stop the clock.