Our new starting QB will be Drew Stanton (I think - my opinion)

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So I gather no one here ACTUALLY knows much about the guy...

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55.6% passer in 4 NFL starts. The New York Jets preferred Tebow and Greg McElroy over him, even paying him a couple hundred large to go away at the start of this year. Hasn't taken a snap in more than two years.
 

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I don't think Arians would want Lindley or Skelton on the roster. I don't think any coach would want those two bozos after that 2012 display. If he wants Stanton, it's probably for a backup role. It doesn't take two highly seasoned offensive gurus to know that Kolb is far better than Stanton.
 
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Usually, opinions are based on something - they don't come out of a vacuum. (a rumor, a report from a questionable source, logic borne out of past coach-player relationships - something)! I was merely asking how you came to that conclusion.[

Well. There is the BA connection. And the fact that the biggest single knock on this organization is a QB position. I can't see BA agreeing to come here without having at least a short-term option somewhat in place.
 

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I wouldn't mind it. A guy that can move went three and one in four starts and got visible better in each one.
 

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I would go with Kolb again before Stanton. I would go with a rookie over Stanton. I would almost go with Skelton over Stanton.
 

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I'm going to likely get flamed, but do we really want to use a high pick on these QBs?

We have a high enough pick that the only QB I'd be interested in drafting at our spot would be Geno Smith, and that's only if he falls to us. I like Wilson, but not at our pick and I don't see him lasting to our pick in the second round.

Cut Kolb and Skelton and start over with Stanton and draft a lesser heralded guy later, but one with decent upside.
 

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Ah the off-season. Where every other teams 3rd string QB becomes the next Cardinals starting QB and savior.

Stanton is a classic journeyman. I can see us bringing him in as a backup QB, but if he's the starter come September, we're screwed.
 

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I'm going to likely get flamed, but do we really want to use a high pick on these QBs?

We have a high enough pick that the only QB I'd be interested in drafting at our spot would be Geno Smith, and that's only if he falls to us. I like Wilson, but not at our pick and I don't see him lasting to our pick in the second round.

Cut Kolb and Skelton and start over with Stanton and draft a lesser heralded guy later, but one with decent upside.

Absolutely, positively not! Mel Kiper has NO quarterbacks going in the entire first round. For sure, we shouldn't take one at #7 overall IMO. Most mocks have the quarterbacks going in the 20s.

Kevin Kolb won't be cut. He's the only NFL quality quarterback on the roster. He just can't stay healthy. We'll draft a quarterback, just not in the first round, unless we trade back up into the bottom of the round.
 

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Absolutely, positively not! Mel Kiper has NO quarterbacks going in the entire first round. For sure, we shouldn't take one at #7 overall IMO. Most mocks have the quarterbacks going in the 20s.

Kevin Kolb won't be cut. He's the only NFL quality quarterback on the roster. He just can't stay healthy. We'll draft a quarterback, just not in the first round, unless we trade back up into the bottom of the round.

I think our best plan would be best available o-lineman in round one and best available QB in round 2. Tom Moore may be thinking this as well since he knows how much giving up sacks hurts your offense. There's not much seperation if any among the QB's after you get past Geno.....so a Wilson or Bray or Glennon or Dysart would work.
 

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Absolutely, positively not! Mel Kiper has NO quarterbacks going in the entire first round. For sure, we shouldn't take one at #7 overall IMO. Most mocks have the quarterbacks going in the 20s.

Kevin Kolb won't be cut. He's the only NFL quality quarterback on the roster. He just can't stay healthy. We'll draft a quarterback, just not in the first round, unless we trade back up into the bottom of the round.

We've heard that song about QB's in the first before, and in the end 2 or 3 get drafted in that round.

Agree, we're not likely to go QB with our first pick and Kolb is the likely starter come September.
 

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I'm going to likely get flamed, but do we really want to use a high pick on these QBs?

We have a high enough pick that the only QB I'd be interested in drafting at our spot would be Geno Smith, and that's only if he falls to us. I like Wilson, but not at our pick and I don't see him lasting to our pick in the second round.

Cut Kolb and Skelton and start over with Stanton and draft a lesser heralded guy later, but one with decent upside.

It's definitely a small minority opinion that the Arizona Cardinals are going to use the 7th pick in the 2013 NFL draft on any of these quarterback prospects. I doubt you'll get flamed by anyone.

I'm fine with trading up for Tyler Wilson if the staff can provide him with some sponsorship. I think as the first quarterback identified and drafted by Keim/Licht/Arians/Michael Bidwill, he'll have that kind of sponsorship.
 

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How about this guy? :D

Former Oakland Raiders quarterback Jamarcus Russell is hoping to make a return to the NFL.

Seriously.

Despite still weighing 308 pounds, the former first round pick believes he can make a return to the league. Russell has been working out for the last six weeks in an attempt to get back in shape and return to the football field for the first time since 2009.
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If Bruce Arians wants to get fired he will start Drew Stanton.

This. Steve Keim can blah blah blah about "retool, not rebuild", but the fact of the matter is that this isn't a situation where there's an NFL-quality starter at quarterback, and perhaps running back, and almost definitely at guard. While the defense may have been ready for prime time, that system is actually being retooled.

The goal for this season is putting out a product on the field that is going to be attractive to a fan base that has been completely beaten down over the last season. I have a difficult time remembering the last interesting offensive performance from this team, much less the last interesting HOME offensive performance.

If you go with Kevin Kolb, it sets the program back a year, because there's no one behind him.

If you go with a rookie, you probably set your program back a year, because there aren't any "special" players out here (honestly, if Brandon Weeden had come out this year, wouldn't he be in the same group as the rest of the QBs we're talking about?).

If you go with a veteran nobody like Drew Stanton, you're probably treading water as a program, because you're essentially submarining 2013 in the hope of building to something in 2014.

There just aren't good options.
 

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Our starting QB will be Kevin Kolb (I think-my opinion). I've been right about that the last 2 years (sorta). I want a high draft pick to be our #3, and a solid back up to come in and compete with Kolb/take over when he's busted up.
 

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...308 lbs? That's bigger than some of our linemen. The guy is a joke.

It is time for the Cardinals to think out side of the box for a change!

SF and Seattle both have gone to triple-threat offense where the QB can run; old stuff now that it got SF to the SB.

Next yeart, we can surprise everbody with our inovative "extra-lineman-blocker" threat who can also pass (sort-of).

Who knows, maybe with 10 lineman and a running back we could finally generate a running game...
 
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I think our best plan would be best available o-lineman in round one and best available QB in round 2. Tom Moore may be thinking this as well since he knows how much giving up sacks hurts your offense. There's not much seperation if any among the QB's after you get past Geno.....so a Wilson or Bray or Glennon or Dysart would work.
I just can't get behind that logic and I don't believe that front office will either. If Warmack or Fisher or any other O-lineman is the BPA than I can certainly see us taking that guy with the 7th pick. Otherwise you stick to your board and you wait until an O-lineman lines up with your BPA board. Levi Brown is a prime example of what happens when you set yourself on drafting a lineman no matter what.

Basically what I'm getting at is you don't draft need in the first round and some might say that it extends to the second round as well. I say specifically early in the 1st round you go pure BPA and then in the second and beyond it can be a balance of BPA and need and either can outweigh the other if they see fit. Also I'm not saying not to draft OL in the first, but just don't pass up a great play maker such as Moore or Jones for instance just to fill a need, especially in a draft that is considered to be deep in OL talent.
 
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This. Steve Keim can blah blah blah about "retool, not rebuild", but the fact of the matter is that this isn't a situation where there's an NFL-quality starter at quarterback, and perhaps running back, and almost definitely at guard. While the defense may have been ready for prime time, that system is actually being retooled.

The goal for this season is putting out a product on the field that is going to be attractive to a fan base that has been completely beaten down over the last season. I have a difficult time remembering the last interesting offensive performance from this team, much less the last interesting HOME offensive performance.

If you go with Kevin Kolb, it sets the program back a year, because there's no one behind him.

If you go with a rookie, you probably set your program back a year, because there aren't any "special" players out here (honestly, if Brandon Weeden had come out this year, wouldn't he be in the same group as the rest of the QBs we're talking about?).

If you go with a veteran nobody like Drew Stanton, you're probably treading water as a program, because you're essentially submarining 2013 in the hope of building to something in 2014.

There just aren't good options.

I liked Mayocks' statement on this crop of QBs. He said they all have some very good traits, it is just that none of them check all the boxes like Luck and RGIII did last year. He said it will come down to teams determining what areas can be coached up easiest.

This is why I like Tyler Wilson and Ryan Nassib so much. Both are accurate, tough, and standin the pocket looking to make plays down the field. Both dealth with adversity in their college careers and still put up good numbers, especially in games against teams with better talent. Wilson has questions in decision making and health while Nassib has questions on his deep ball accuracy but both of these guys have areas that can be easily improved IMO.
 

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I liked Mayocks' statement on this crop of QBs. He said they all have some very good traits, it is just that none of them check all the boxes like Luck and RGIII did last year. He said it will come down to teams determining what areas can be coached up easiest.

This is why I like Tyler Wilson and Ryan Nassib so much. Both are accurate, tough, and standin the pocket looking to make plays down the field. Both dealth with adversity in their college careers and still put up good numbers, especially in games against teams with better talent. Wilson has questions in decision making and health while Nassib has questions on his deep ball accuracy but both of these guys have areas that can be easily improved IMO.

But, there is also reservation about Nassib's arm strength.
 

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I don't think either Wilson or Nassib are very accurate. bit I give the edge to Nassib, based on the games I've watched both QB's. play. which is quite a few
 

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