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Wow, a quarter of the team involved in this mess. Just when you thought things were getting better after shipping out Ron Artest. Why can't the Suns be so lucky as to have teams in their conference as messed up as the Knicks and Pacers or cream puffs like the Raptors and Hawks. Just doesn't seem fair that the West is so much better than the East.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061006...EFH4Jqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cm82NXAwBHNlYwM3NTU-

Pacers' Jackson fires gun outside club By CLIFF BRUNT, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 37 minutes ago



INDIANAPOLIS - Indiana Pacers guard Stephen Jackson fired shots in the air in apparent self-defense after he was hit by a car outside a strip club early Friday — the latest blow to a team struggling to rebuild its image.

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Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said Jackson and teammates Jamaal Tinsley, Marquis Daniels and Jimmie Hunter committed an "error in judgment" by staying out late during training camp. No one was seriously injured.

"Stephen is very lucky," Carlisle said. "It was a potential life-threatening situation that was averted. And right now, the biggest emotion I feel is relief that he's going to be OK."

Police said the disturbance began with an argument inside Club Rio involving patrons and players. The players said they left the club, but the patrons followed them. Then things turned physical.

Sgt. Matthew Mount, a police spokesman, said Jackson fired five shots from a 9mm pistol outside the Indianapolis club after he was slugged in the mouth and struck by a car that sent him tumbling onto the hood. Officers were searching for the vehicle and three men wanted for questioning.

Carlisle said Jackson needed stitches in his lip and face but had no broken bones or other damage. His status for Wednesday's preseason opener against New Jersey was unclear.

"He's got some scrapes and bruises, but this guy is going to bounce back," Carlisle said.

Police said a small amount of marijuana was found in the passenger-side door of the car belonging to Tinsley. Carlisle declined to comment on that, saying he didn't have enough information. Mount said no arrests were made because police could not determine who had the marijuana. Three others were in the car with Tinsley, police said.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank said the league was monitoring the situation. The NBA's drug policy says players who test positive for marijuana face rehabilitation, fines and suspensions, depending on whether it is a first offense. Testing is done randomly throughout the season and for reasonable cause.

Tinsley and Daniels also had guns in their cars, and all three armed players had weapons permits, Mount said.

Mount said police were reviewing a security tape and 911 calls from the club. The grainy image shows a car striking Jackson and at least one shot being fired into the air, police said.

The Pacers are still trying to shake the damage from the fight between Pacers and Detroit Pistons fans at Auburn Hills, Mich., two seasons ago.

Indiana was a title contender the last two seasons but those hopes were dashed by fallout from the brawl and suspensions and injuries. Fans often booed the team and crowds fell to their lowest level in nearly decade in last year's 41-41 season.

This year, the team has taken out ads and billboards featuring players and the slogan "It's up to us." The Pacers held parties for season-ticket holders in an effort to renew interest.

They also brought in 12 new players, including former Pacer Al Harrington. Even Jackson, who was suspended 30 games for his role in the brawl and often was at odds with Carlisle last season, talked about spending a summer "soul-searching" and returning with a positive attitude.

But instead of being asked about the positive moves, a new up-tempo offense and the exhibition opener Wednesday against New Jersey, team officials again were answering uncomfortable questions.

Jackson, a 28-year-old guard, joined the Pacers in 2004 and averaged 16 points during the 2005-06 season.

He pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault charges related to the Auburn Hills mayhem and was sentenced in September 2005 to a year's probation and community service. He was named in a lawsuit filed by a Detroit fan in connection with the brawl.

During a recent news conference, Jackson hugged Carlisle and sat by his side to answer questions — a gesture the Pacers hoped would symbolize improved team chemistry.

"As a franchise, we have to take responsibility for what goes on," Carlisle said. "Our players realize that being out that late during training camp is not the right thing. It's an error in judgment, and it's going to have to change."

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Associated Press Writer Deanna Martin in Indianapolis contributed to this report.
 

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shocking. maybe its just a coincidence that all these things happen at 1,2, and 3 in the morning? naw...these guys need to grow up. this plus all the crap in the NFL this year.
 

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I love Jackson, I would actually love to see him on the Suns again.Too bad he is gone, I really like the way this guy plays.
 

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I love Jackson, I would actually love to see him on the Suns again.Too bad he is gone, I really like the way this guy plays.
Yikes. The guy can shoot it and is athletic, but has the worst handle of any NBA wing player I've ever seen. I, for one, will pass. :)
 

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Preseason foul trouble
Shooting outside Westside strip club undercuts team's push to repair image
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The Indiana Pacers spent all summer rebuilding their team and their image.
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Just three days into training camp, a shooting incident early Friday involving Stephen Jackson and three teammates has left the franchise dealing with another public relations nightmare.

Pacers officials spent the summer mingling with on-the-fence season-ticket holders at parties. They purchased newspaper ads, sprinkled billboards throughout the city and appeared in commercials touting a new image: "It's up to us."

On Friday, the team suspended those commercials and removed a promotional video from its Web site.

The incident outside a Westside strip club came as the franchise was trying to recover from the lingering effects of the brawl in Detroit in November 2004.

Indianapolis police say Jackson was slugged in the face and hit by a car before he fired five shots from a 9 mm handgun outside Club Rio, 5054 W. 38th St.

Jackson, Jamaal Tinsley, Marquis Daniels and Jimmie "Snap" Hunter cooperated with police. No arrests have been made, and police say the evidence supports Jackson's claim that he fired the gun in self-defense.

The court of popular opinion viewed the incident from another perspective.
"On ESPN this morning, they were making fun of the Indiana Pacers," former Pacers guard Billy Keller said Friday. "Even though I'm not a part of this group, I still carry an Indiana Pacer name with me. To be associated with something that looks to be a very negative thing, it does reflect on all of us. It's a sad thing for the Indiana Pacers, and I'm part of it.

"I didn't feel very good about it. We don't want to be a laughingstock."
Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said the team takes responsibility for what happened.

"Our players realize that being out that late in training camp is not the right thing. We know it. It was an error in judgment, and it has to change," he said.

For years, the Pacers were regarded as a model NBA franchise. Players such as Reggie Miller, Mark Jackson and Rik Smits were fan favorites.
The team's image was sullied in 2004, when Jackson followed Ron Artest into the stands in Detroit.

The Pacers tried to put that incident behind them last year. Pacers President Larry Bird even posed with Artest on the cover of Sports Illustrated, only to have Artest ask for a trade a month into the regular season.

The Pacers' antics on the court haven't won much support, either. Constant complaining, at officials and among themselves, has turned off fans. Worse, it led some to stay away from Conseco Fieldhouse.
The Pacers averaged 16,180 fans per game last season -- their lowest average since 1997-98. Playoff attendance was even lower.

Mark Jackson, now an analyst, justified the empty seats by calling the Pacers "a tough team to embrace."

Now this.

All-Star forward Jermaine O'Neal said Friday this isn't the same team, but some of the same perceptions remain.

"They basically shot themselves in the foot, no pun intended," said Marc Ganis, president of Sportscorp Ltd., a Chicago-based sports consultancy firm. "It's incredibly counterproductive when a team is trying to re-establish its connection to their fan base. That really can't help them win back fans.
"An observer would be shocked by the behavior after everything that has happened to the franchise in the past. You would think things would be headed in the right direction. This latest incident will cause some to wonder what's going on with the Pacers, just like they did when all that stuff was happening with the Portland Trail Blazers."

The thought of cheering players who visit strip clubs with guns in their car is too much for some.

"I'm not a ticket holder, but I attend my fair share of games, and sadly, the good guys of the past have been replaced with selfish guys," said Mike Nicholas, Fishers. "Ultimately, it's about bringing kids to the games. But it gets old with whining and complaining. Our problem is we were spoiled with guys like Reggie and (Mark) Jackson. That's not the case anymore. We're stuck with these guys, and that's not a good thing."
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What is it with these guys and strip clubs? Why can't just call up escort services like civilized guys?:D
 

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