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Sealed Bryant DNA data released

I just have to rant that the folks (Eagle county DA and the courts) involved with handling of evidence for the kobe case has to be the most incompetent people ever to work in a legal system!

They post confidential stuff on the internet, they forget to omit the accusers name from documents released to the public, they turn over stuff the judge hasn't even ruled on yet...

btw...the hospital that inadvertently released the records to kobe's attorneys...nice work in protecting a patients right to privacy.

Innocent or guilty the verdict doesn't matter...this is very unprofessional and people should get fired for this.

Sorry for the distraction folks...carry on!
 

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Djaughe said:
Sealed Bryant DNA data released

I just have to rant that the folks (Eagle county DA and the courts) involved with handling of evidence for the kobe case has to be the most incompetent people ever to work in a legal system!

They post confidential stuff on the internet, they forget to omit the accusers name from documents released to the public, they turn over stuff the judge hasn't even ruled on yet...

btw...the hospital that inadvertently released the records to kobe's attorneys...nice work in protecting a patients right to privacy.

Innocent or guilty the verdict doesn't matter...this is very unprofessional and people should get fired for this.

Sorry for the distraction folks...carry on!

i agree.

that being said, fry him!
 

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I think it's unlikely there will even be a trial now. The prosecution has no case, and everyone knows it.
 

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The whole Eagle Colorado system is a joke. They can't do anything right, and everyone that has anything to do with this case (other than the remaining prosecutors) have already noted that they have one the flimsiest cases to ever be brought to trial (the judge even mentioned that the prosecution 'had a lot of work to do, and needed much more' in his filling when he allowed the case to go to trial).

There was rush to judgement on charges (the sheriff did it without even consulting the DA), from a sheriff that has prior issues with racism. Officers in Eagle County bought 'hangman' t-shirts, already implicating Kobe. The accuser has a history of instability (multiple suicide attempts after break ups), and issues with men. She also has another man's pubic hair and 'samples' in her, and on the panties that she wore to her rape exam (which the latest mistaken release shows didn't come from KB). The DA went along with the charges, knowing all of this, and also was holding press conferences left and right. Then when it becomes obvious to him that he will not win the case, he announces he will no longer be the lead prosecuter, and has done everything in his power to distance himself from the case.

If anyone in Eagle County court system had any kind of clue they would drop this case as soon as possible, unfortunately they are probably going to go through with it, driven by pure stubourness, and the trial will be an absolute joke. Watching this legal community work, is like watching a monkey f___ a football. Its funny from the outside, but very depressing after a while.

Now feel free to blast away, and refute my claims, because I am a Laker fan. :doofus:
 
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LakeShowMan said:
Now feel free to blast away, and refute my claims, because I am a Laker fan.
No means No.

:D
 

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No means No.

I wasn't going to respond to this, but I think you really need to take something into consideration.

Being accused of something you didn't do is a whole lot of no fun. I hope it never happens to you.

I've never been accused of a felony or of sexaully assaulting someone, but I have been accused of serious things in my work place, by disgruntled associates who made things up out of thin air just to make my life difficult. I was able, eventually, to fight back successfully against the charges. But there was a lot at stake, and there's no reason I should have had to go through that ordeal.

We already know Bryant cheated on his wife, and that was a mistake. But before you get all smug with your "No means No" refrain, I think you owe it to everyone to consider the possibility that Bryant is telling the truth.

You don't go to jail for adultery, and if you're fortunate enough to have a forgiving spouse, it shouldn't ruin the rest of your life.
 

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Djaughe said:
No means No.

:D

I completely agree. Rape is absolutely one of the worst things any human being could do to another.

Unfortunately, I find it VERY hard to believe that someone that was raped would decide to have sex with another person before they go in for their rape exam. Call me a cynic. :shrug:
 
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elindholm said:
...But before you get all smug with your "No means No" refrain, I think you owe it to everyone to consider the possibility that Bryant is telling the truth....
Sorry for my "smug" smilie.

I could really care less about the outcome of the trial - what I do find disapointing is how people in the system that controls information to any victims/accusers right to privacy just piss it all away without any penalty.

I'm sure you can agree that privacy is an important element to have when dealing with sensitive issues such as rape or being accused of serious things in the work place.
 
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LakeShowMan said:
Unfortunately, I find it VERY hard to believe that someone that was raped would decide to have sex with another person before they go in for their rape exam.
Or go to a party and joke about kobe's package :D

....maybe she just wore dirty underwear...ewww....:eek:
 

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Djaughe said:
Sorry for my "smug" smilie.

I could really care less about the outcome of the trial - what I do find disapointing is how people in the system that controls information to any victims/accusers right to privacy just piss it all away without any penalty.

I'm sure you can agree that privacy is an important element to have when dealing with sensitive issues such as rape or being accused of serious things in the work place.

you have nothing to apologize for.

No does mean no and elindholm needs to understand at the same token that Kobe could be guilty.
 
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That is not what you said last night.
Careful!...that doesn't sound right hearing it from another guy! :)
 

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No does mean no and elindholm needs to understand at the same token that Kobe could be guilty.

You obviously missed the entire point of my post. Maybe in the future you will be forced to learn the hard way.
 

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LakeShowMan said:
I completely agree. Rape is absolutely one of the worst things any human being could do to another.

Unfortunately, I find it VERY hard to believe that someone that was raped would decide to have sex with another person before they go in for their rape exam. Call me a cynic. :shrug:

There are alternative scenarios. She could have been with someone else prior to the incident with Kobe. In that case, no means no and the "other evidence" is perfectly explainable.

Its all a mess, but for everyone's sake this needs to go further. If Kobe is guilty, all the evidence needs to be presented. If Kobe is innocent, it would be nice to have enough info come out to lift some of the cloud that is hanging over his head.

While I don't like Kobe very much, I wouldn't wish a false conviction on him, but if he's guilty--justice.

Unfortunately, it seems that those involved with law enforcement haven't done their jobs well--which makes it all the harder to find the truth.
 

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There are alternative scenarios. She could have been with someone else prior to the incident with Kobe. In that case, no means no and the "other evidence" is perfectly explainable.

Its all a mess, but for everyone's sake this needs to go further. If Kobe is guilty, all the evidence needs to be presented. If Kobe is innocent, it would be nice to have enough info come out to lift some of the cloud that is hanging over his head.

While I don't like Kobe very much, I wouldn't wish a false conviction on him, but if he's guilty--justice.

Unfortunately, it seems that those involved with law enforcement haven't done their jobs well--which makes it all the harder to find the truth.

I understand what you are saying, and for the most part I agree. Justice should always be served.

However, if someone elses "evidence" was found, and Kobe's was not, I don't see how it could have taken place before Kobe. JMHO
 

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The real importance of that document is not that it gave the accuser's name, but what it said--that Kobe's johnson had only his and the accuser's DNA on it. The defense will have an expert who will say that if she had sex w/ somebody immediately prior to sex w/ Kobe, his johnson would have had the other dude's DNA on it (think about that the next time you try to pick up a Scottsdale skank). Because it didn't, she didn't have sex immediately prior--but b/c she had another dude's junk on her and in her panties, she must have had sex w/ another dude immediately after the alleged rape.

More importantly, the document stated that the prosecution wants to use no DNA evidence (other than blood speck on Kobe's shirt), but the defense is going to use DNA evidence--for among other reasons, to impeach the accuser's credibility. They've caught her in a lie about who nailed her right around the time of the alleged rape (else the judge wouldn't permit it as impeachment evidence). And, Ms. Mackey ought to (and will) say that the accuser is proven to have lied to the cops about sex--and if she lied about sex with the "junk provider," she'd lie about sex w/ Kobe.

Far more important than any of that, Nash + Q > Kobe
 
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...(think about that the next time you try to pick up a Scottsdale skank)....

Far more important than any of that, Nash + Q > Kobe
:D Great cliff notes of the article!
 

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