Fairly or unfairly, Kyler absolutely has to prove out as the true QBOF this season, or he's getting replaced. You can't go into a draft with a huge question mark at QB and ignore the possibility of drafting a franchise QB when you're sitting at the top of the draft--which I have no doubt we will be.
Do you see keeping Kyler in 2024 and drafting Williams/Maye as a viable option? Because he has a dead cap # of $81M in 2024, and no one would be trading for him at that point. I guess if you want to have a poison pill in your local room throughout 2024 just to get him off the books at a more economical price, you'd keep a grumpy Kyler Murray with zero motivation to do anything but play Call of Duty.
we would have to eat the dead cap but its doable with a rookie qb and lots of young players... Kyler would be a bargain for any team that traded for him... we are the ones that get screwed.
If we trade to 3, we wouldn't need to pass on him, like the option of trading with the Colts this time. They trade with us to prevent a team from moving ahead of them to draft Caleb/Maye. You know it will happen.
Junior is going to be a Hall of Famer, just like his dad. You never pass that up.
It would be double the largest dead cap hit for any player in NFL history (if we let him go after next year).
it would. the team would have to be committed to moving on from him... but they can blame it on keim to save face.
If you did that, you'd pretty much out of necessity need to spread that over 2024 and 2025. Which meant 2026 is the first realistic year we'd be competitive. I guess if the team is really in it for the long haul.
This is the way.
You do that when you need to rebuild. You don't do that when you have the draft capital needed to fill the holes in your roster (WR next year) that help make you a contender. Never, ever punt on trying to be a contender just for more picks next year. What, you want to trade out "for a haul" every season? Like, there comes a time when picks are just picks and you need impact players. What you're advocating is roughly akin to pass on Fitz for a "haul" trade back. No thanks. I'll take the guy that has future star written all over him.
Yes. It's the timing of the situation. If we end up with the #1 or #2 pick, you cannot count on being there again. When you're at the top of the draft and don't have a sure-fire answer at QB, and really top QB prospects are staring you in the face, you take the QB 10 times out of 10. Of course, Kyler can alleviate the situation by balling out. In a comeback from injury year. With a terrible roster. With incredible inside pass rush pressure. I know, it's a monumental task, but this is the NFL and he hasn't proven himself yet. Had he already proven himself, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Moving on from Kyler after this season would be a lot more bold move than moving on from Rosen after one season, given the unprecedented salary cap implications. Not saying it would be the wrong move, if Kyler totally flounders next year, but the implications of it would be massive. It would set us up for 2024 & 2025 off-seasons exactly like this one.
Uh, we need to rebuild like nobody's business. We just got started on the process.
People here said the exact same thing about Anderson. We are a better team because of the trade at this point IMO. Or should I say setup better to be successful in the future.
I love this scenario -- just replace Verse with Kool Aid! I don't see Verse as a generational pass rush prospect, but time could prove me wrong.
I'm a pass rush then corner kind of guy.
If he doesn’t play next year or looks somewhat decent post injury he’ll have trade value. That team would only be on the hook for a year before they’d be able to get out of it should it backfire. I mean look at some of the starting QB’s right now.
We are a qb hungry team, or at least should be.
A trade would definitely help matters - his 2024 salary is $37M, and I don't think any bonus money is guaranteed, so there would still be a huge negative net salary cap charge, but a whole lot better than $81M!
It would be bold.
And for the record, if you asked me today who I would most prefer to be the QB of the Cardinals in week 1 of the 2024-2025 season, my answer would be Caleb Williams.
Bad take is bad.
