PFT: Dockett extension to happen

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Consider the source of the info (PFT), take a long, deep breath and move on to something else.

Considering their source is a direct quote from Wiz himself I see no reason why we couldnt consider the source.

"We're going to get this thing done"

I listened to the interview and that is exactly what he stated. A statement he never said about Boldin. When asked about Boldin he always stated we will do what is best for the team.
 

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For the 2009 offseason to be seen as successful, the Cards have to extend two of Dockett, Breaston, Leinart, and/or Fitz. Leinart is probably the lowest priority since he will still be under contract if there's a 2011 season. But if the Cards don't extend two of those guys by Christmas, then it'll be pretty clear that the team decided to pocket the money they saved from Warner, Rolle, and Dansby.

They have already spent the Rolle and Warner money on various items. So far the only money they will be saving is the Dansby money.

On Dockett getting extended it will happen where it be today or next year it will happen, I have zero doubt of that. Dockett is in love with Wiz and Lott. Wiz and Dockett had a long and down to business meeting this offseason and Dockett has really taken it to heart (more leadership, showing up to OTA's, and shutting up him and his agent). Wiz never stated "We're going to get this thing done" with Boldin which says a lot about Dockett's status with Wiz compared to the Boldin situation.
 
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You should update your note above your avatar to "Dallas 2011" ;)

Unless of course your you are planning a separate vacation to South Beach by the end of the year. You know. To go see LeBron :D

Yeah true! Thanks for pointing that out to me!
 

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Dockett needs to retire a Cardinal.. And thats there is to it..

I'd like that but in this day and age, I don't think it's realistic.

How many top players in the league have stayed with their original teams their whole careers?

Manning, Brady, ? I can't think of anyone else over 30 that falls in that category.
 

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I'd like that but in this day and age, I don't think it's realistic.

How many top players in the league have stayed with their original teams their whole careers?

Manning, Brady, ? I can't think of anyone else over 30 that falls in that category.

Wilson.
 

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They have already spent the Rolle and Warner money on various items. So far the only money they will be saving is the Dansby money.

On Dockett getting extended it will happen where it be today or next year it will happen, I have zero doubt of that. Dockett is in love with Wiz and Lott. Wiz and Dockett had a long and down to business meeting this offseason and Dockett has really taken it to heart (more leadership, showing up to OTA's, and shutting up him and his agent). Wiz never stated "We're going to get this thing done" with Boldin which says a lot about Dockett's status with Wiz compared to the Boldin situation.

I'm sorry. I guess I should have elaborated on all the cap savings they had this offseason. They got Berry, Okeafor, Rolle, Warner, Rackers, and Dansby off the cap. Those were just the big-money guys, and that doesn't count Bryant McFadden, either. Are you saying that all of this money has already been allocated within the organization? To whom? That seems like at least $20-30 million in payroll off the books, and I'm pretty sure that we aren't spending $20-30 million this season on Porter, Hadnot, Lenon, Faneca, and Feeley. At least, I hope not.
 

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What I noticed was DD being REAL unhappy on Twitter for quite a while. Then he had a meeting in Miami with his agent a couple of months ago, came out of that meeting, tweeted, "I am blessed!" and his attitude changed. Big time.

I think something is in the works and has been for a couple of months now. We shall see. I sure hope so.
 

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I'm sorry. I guess I should have elaborated on all the cap savings they had this offseason. They got Berry, Okeafor, Rolle, Warner, Rackers, and Dansby off the cap. Those were just the big-money guys, and that doesn't count Bryant McFadden, either. Are you saying that all of this money has already been allocated within the organization? To whom? That seems like at least $20-30 million in payroll off the books, and I'm pretty sure that we aren't spending $20-30 million this season on Porter, Hadnot, Lenon, Faneca, and Feeley. At least, I hope not.

Money goes just as fast out the door as it does coming in. 6 free agents signed, 5 players re-signed, much higher quantity of RFA's (almost double then normal) at a much higher cost. Just because money went out the door with players leaving doesn't mean some of it wasn't already spent on the all the other players yearly raises and more bonuses given out, especially workout bonuses, sure leadership has something to do with workout attendance but don't be fooled, the new workout bonuses we are handing out plays a big part. For example lets say 50 mill left in salary, 15 mill of that was already spent on 2010 increased salaries because of players getting their usual yearly raises(about 5-10 increase in their yearly base salary) and bonuses.

Have they spent as much as last year no they have not(again about 12 mill less which equalls about what Warner made), but then again 30 out of 32 teams are so far spending less then last year on player salary. On average each team is spending 10 mill less on player salary then the year prior. Good piece of evidence if the NFLPA wants to charge the league with collusion actually, although it is still really hard to prove.
 

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Money goes just as fast out the door as it does coming in. 6 free agents signed, 5 players re-signed, much higher quantity of RFA's (almost double then normal) at a much higher cost. Just because money went out the door with players leaving doesn't mean some of it wasn't already spent on the all the other players yearly raises and more bonuses given out, especially workout bonuses, sure leadership has something to do with workout attendance but don't be fooled, the new workout bonuses we are handing out plays a big part. For example lets say 50 mill left in salary, 15 mill of that was already spent on 2010 increased salaries because of players getting their usual yearly raises(about 5-10 increase in their yearly base salary) and bonuses.

Have they spent as much as last year no they have not(again about 12 mill less which equalls about what Warner made), but then again 30 out of 32 teams are so far spending less then last year on player salary. On average each team is spending 10 mill less on player salary then the year prior. Good piece of evidence if the NFLPA wants to charge the league with collusion actually, although it is still really hard to prove.

But that budget is much higher for the players lost for the players signed. You can't just throw out numbers of players and expect that to make the difference. Are you telling me the Cards didn't already have the tenders in mind at the beginning of last offseason for guys like Breaston, Lutui, Branch, etc.? Of course they did. Even if Breaston earned a 1st round tender instead of a second (and I don't think they intended to do that from the beginning), it's not like it makes up for the $2.75 million that the Cards got rid of when they shipped off Q.

Teams are spending less on free agency, to be sure. I don't have a problem with that--really. But they can't essentially carry $10 million in extra payroll through the season and tell me that they did everything they could to win if they don't shore up their pending free agents.

Who were these players getting a ton of yearly raises? Antrel was due a yearly raise and he got cut. They cleared some $5 million when they traded McFadden, and you know that it's no DRC or Toler who got $5 million raises. Who got the $5 million that left with Chike Okeafor, because I'm pretty sure it wasn't Cody Brown. I know that Anthony Becht and Matt Ware didn't get that money.

I'm not accusing the Cards of being cheap. I'm hoping that they spend the money wisely by extending guys in-season. My expectation is that we get two "big" ones done (Dockett and Fitz) or one big one done (Dockett) and then extend a bunch of young guys (Hightower, Keith should he work out, Sendlein, etc.) like the Cards did some five years ago with Hayes and Dockett.

If the Cards get to Christmas without new contracts for any of these guys, I'm going to worry that they're sitting on a war chest when they're getting $100 million in television revenues whether games are played or not.
 

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I'm not accusing the Cards of being cheap. I'm hoping that they spend the money wisely by extending guys in-season. My expectation is that we get two "big" ones done (Dockett and Fitz) or one big one done (Dockett) and then extend a bunch of young guys (Hightower, Keith should he work out, Sendlein, etc.) like the Cards did some five years ago with Hayes and Dockett.

If the Cards get to Christmas without new contracts for any of these guys, I'm going to worry that they're sitting on a war chest when they're getting $100 million in television revenues whether games are played or not.

be prepared K9. Like I said earlier I don't see them doing anything outside of DD & thats questionable because of the CBA. Teams are operating mostly the same way...keeping their investments in players to a minimum!!!
 

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