Phoenix - Chicago Trade Proposal

[slinslin]

Maybe the Bulls would do a trade similiar to Chad Ford's idea with Okur.

The Bulls would have to trade their #3 pick and Eddie Robinson to Charlotte in the expansion draft.

That would give the Bulls some salary cap flexibility. A 6.8M$ trade exemption.

Tyson Chandler + Scottie Pippen + Chris Jeffries 6.8M$ exemption = 17.9M$
Shawn Marion + Howard Eisley = 17.6M$

Suns get an additional 6.5M$ caproom. Or more if they could manage to unload White. Basically they are turning Shawn Marion into Tyson Chandler and capspace and get a 1year deal in return for Eisley's 2 years.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I fail to understand your love affair with the Bulls underachieving players.

 

[slinslin]

Who would you rather have?

Tyson Chandler or Mehmet Okur?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Who would you rather have?

Tyson Chandler or Mehmet Okur?

Okay well point taken there. Can I say neither?

 

[scotsman13]

Who would you rather have?

Tyson Chandler or Mehmet Okur?

i guess i would take the center since we already have a power forward in amare. also maybe you have missed the fact but chandler hates amare because he is everything that he isnt. chandler maybe 7' tall but he is no where close to the strenght that is need to be a center in the west.

 

[cly2tw]

I fail to understand why any team would want to build their franchise starting with a complementary player with a 6 year max contract.

 

[slinslin]

i guess i would take the center since we already have a power forward in amare. also maybe you have missed the fact but chandler hates amare because he is everything that he isnt. chandler maybe 7' tall but he is no where close to the strenght that is need to be a center in the west.

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Chandler, Curry, Corie Blount
Curry measured in at 6'11 and something before the draft. Corie Blount is officially listed at 6'10.


Please who is the PF and who is the Center?

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tyson_chandler/index.html?nav=page
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mehmet_okur/index.html?nav=page

Tyson Chandler 22years old, 7'1 (at least)
7.7rpg 1.2bpg in 22mpg

Mehmet Okur 25 years old 6'11
5.9rpg 0.9bpg in 22mpg

And yes Tyson Chandler has little vodoo doll of Amare because he hates him so much.
And the Suns would be stupid to sign Kobe Bryant.

 

[sunsfn]

Who would you rather have?

Tyson Chandler or Mehmet Okur?

Shawn Marion!!!!!!!

 

[scotsman13]

And yes Tyson Chandler has little vodoo doll of Amare because he hates him so much.

lets see if someone said that they reason that they were successful and i wasnt was because they outworked me . then yea i would think i wouldnt be to happy with them. but what i know.

slin what is it with anyone over 6'10 and playing in the east and having never done jack that makes you want them? kwame, chandler, curry, who is next do you want to be in wies because he couldnt even make the knicks roster? i understand cheering for the underdog but man give it a brake. this guys dont have any heart and that is a fact.

 

[Gee!]

Chandler hates Amare.. Ever since HS these two never got along, dam never got in brawls..im sure the C's know this...NEVER GONNA HAPPEN SLIN! sorry

 

[Sunshooter]

I don't like Chandler

Trade Marion ? No way !

 

[George O'Brien]

Chandler is available because he:

1. Is never healthy
2. Not very productive
3. Not very mature

What's not to like.

BTW, how on earth do you imagine they would take Eisley?

 

[PhxGametime]

Not sure about Curry or Chandler but I do like Kwame Brown. Before everyone posts he hasn't done much, I've read quite a few posts or articles that hype up Milicic and Tskitishvili - that they need time etc. and that they will be solid players. I believe it took Kobe and McGrady 3 years to reach double figures and Kwame might never live up to #1 Pick or reach their status - he would be solid matched up with Amare.

PTS 10.9 REB 7.4 AST 1.5 STL .9 BLK .7 FG .49 FT .68 FTM 3.1 MIN 30


Solid stats, minus shot-blocking this year - he could come cheap not living up to hype in Washington. Excellent athlete and can shoot. Good Defender. I would be interested in a trade with #7 pick - moreso than any center in Free Agency or Draft (I do like Stromile Swift and Erick Dampier though defensively - Mehmet Okur offensively). Depends on what Wizards are looking for.

 

[elindholm]

Speaking of Stromile Swift, slinslin hasn't hyped him in a while. Why is that? He still looks at least as promising to me as Brown and could probably had more cheaply.

 

[scotsman13]

the problem with both kwame and chandler are they are both power forwards in the east. even if they were power forwards in the west they still wouldnt be good centers in the west. when you think that these teams are in the east and they havent done anything there what gives you any idea that they would do anything at all in the west where there are some many tougher power forwards? amare, duncan kg, dirk, etc.

 

[slinslin]

the problem with both kwame and chandler are they are both power forwards in the east. even if they were power forwards in the west they still wouldnt be good centers in the west

That's just stupid.

Both of them are bigger, taller and stronger than anyone the Suns have at center.

Jahidi White couldn't get time at center for those Wizards in the EAST. Guess what he could even start quite some games for the Suns at center in the WEST.

 

[B-Dogg]

Not sure about Curry or Chandler but I do like Kwame Brown. Before everyone posts he hasn't done much, I've read quite a few posts or articles that hype up Milicic and Tskitishvili - that they need time etc. and that they will be solid players. I believe it took Kobe and McGrady 3 years to reach double figures and Kwame might never live up to #1 Pick or reach their status - he would be solid matched up with Amare.

PTS 10.9 REB 7.4 AST 1.5 STL .9 BLK .7 FG .49 FT .68 FTM 3.1 MIN 30


Solid stats, minus shot-blocking this year - he could come cheap not living up to hype in Washington. Excellent athlete and can shoot. Good Defender. I would be interested in a trade with #7 pick - moreso than any center in Free Agency or Draft (I do like Stromile Swift and Erick Dampier though defensively - Mehmet Okur offensively). Depends on what Wizards are looking for.

I agree I like Kwame alot and think that a change of scenary maybe exactly what it takes for this kid to turn things around, look at Jermaine O'Neil and other high schoolers it takes years for even the best of them to develop. I think Kwame is on the cusp of doing that and I think Amare would be the perfect person to push him. And I do think he could play center in the West he as grown to 7" and the only person in the West he couldnt guard would be Shaq and Yao, but then there is nobody in the west that can guard either one so unless we can somehow get one or the other it doesnt much matter.

 

[George O'Brien]

I agree I like Kwame alot and think that a change of scenary maybe exactly what it takes for this kid to turn things around, look at Jermaine O'Neil and other high schoolers it takes years for even the best of them to develop. I think Kwame is on the cusp of doing that and I think Amare would be the perfect person to push him. And I do think he could play center in the West he as grown to 7" and the only person in the West he couldnt guard would be Shaq and Yao, but then there is nobody in the west that can guard either one so unless we can somehow get one or the other it doesnt much matter.

K Brown MIGHT become a top player, but his situation is not the same as what J. O'Neal faced. O'Neal simply did not get a chance to play much. Portland tends to load up on high priced vets and O'Neal never averaged more than 13 minutes a game with the Blazers.

As it was, he put up decent numbers. He averaged 45.1%, 48.5%, 43.4% (strick season), and 48.6% from the field. His rebounds per minute played were OK (translates into about 9 rpg at 35 minutes).

Brown has been given more minutes. He's shown some spark lately, but was wildly inconsistent. There are no veterans keeping him out of the lineup. Just him.

 

[Joe Mama]

Speaking of Stromile Swift, slinslin hasn't hyped him in a while. Why is that? He still looks at least as promising to me as Brown and could probably had more cheaply.

Stromile Swift is a backup power forward or center if the Suns are playing small ball. He really does not address the center position like Brown could. Brown is every bit of 7-0 and built like a rock. He just needs some confidence and to learn to push himself more.

the problem with both kwame and chandler are they are both power forwards in the east. even if they were power forwards in the west they still wouldnt be good centers in the west. when you think that these teams are in the east and they havent done anything there what gives you any idea that they would do anything at all in the west where there are some many tougher power forwards? amare, duncan kg, dirk, etc.

either Chandler or Brown could easily play center for the Phoenix Suns. They might struggle against Shaquille O'Neal, but who doesn't?

Joe Mama

 

[George O'Brien]

I like K Brown more than Chandler, if for no other reason than Chandler's back problems.

Chandler only averageda 22.3 minutes a game in the 35 games he played this season. His shooting was way down over last year: 6.1 ppg and only 42.4%.
I'm not sure how much I would give for a player who is that much of an injury risk and would cost $4.8 million.

 

[JCSunsfan]

K Brown MIGHT become a top player, but his situation is not the same as what J. O'Neal faced. O'Neal simply did not get a chance to play much. Portland tends to load up on high priced vets and O'Neal never averaged more than 13 minutes a game with the Blazers.

As it was, he put up decent numbers. He averaged 45.1%, 48.5%, 43.4% (strick season), and 48.6% from the field. His rebounds per minute played were OK (translates into about 9 rpg at 35 minutes).

Brown has been given more minutes. He's shown some spark lately, but was wildly inconsistent. There are no veterans keeping him out of the lineup. Just him.

While it is true that JO couldn't get minutes behind Portlands vets, JO was also nowhere near the player then, that he is now. When he was drafted he was a very skinny hser.

It took him 2 years just for his body to mature.

You can't draft high schoolers and then give up on then after 1 or 2 seasons. There is alot of physical maturation that goes on between 18 and 22, and alot more mental and emotional maturing.

Washington would be foolish to give up on Kwame after two seasons.

 

[slinslin]

I agree.

In fact Portland had no idea how good Jermaine O'Neal would become. If the problem was being stuck behind veterans they would not have traded him for so little and not for another big guy.

 

[elindholm]

Washington would be foolish to give up on Kwame after two seasons.

How about three? He is already 22 years old. Jermaine O'Neal was 21 when he was traded to the Pacers.

 

[slinslin]

O'Neal spent 4 seasons in Portland how could he be just 21 when they traded him? He turned 22 2 month after he was traded but that would still make him 17 when he was drafted?

 

[elindholm]

O'Neal's birthday is 13-X-78 and he was traded to Indiana in the summer of 2000. You do the math.