Pick 4

[AzStevenCal]

If by some crazy reason the Suns actually have all 4 picks (Washington isn't looking too hot) I expect 2 of them to be packaged in trades. 4 rookies on an already young roster is just too much.

That seems to be the consensus here. But I don't have a problem with adding four rookies to this team next year. This isn't the NBA of old and these aren't the Phoenix Suns of a decade ago. We are in much better position to actually work with and teach than we've ever been in the past. It wouldn't be the ideal situation but I don't think it's unmanageable.

If we assume the Len pick was wasted and Bledsoe is in Phoenix for one year only, it wouldn't be that big of a deal to add four more young guys. The four of them plus Goodwin could grow and develop together. I think it would be manageable even if you keep Bledsoe and Len develops although seven guys under the age of twenty five would be quite a challenge. It could succeed as long as you're not drafting a Demarcus Cousins but Bledsoe seems to have the right kind of attitude to help make it work.

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

I would not assume either of those things.

 

[Mainstreet]

If this a deep draft, the Suns should be able to find some Archie Goodwin type talent much earlier in the draft. I'm all in for scouting and keeping our picks or using some in trade for a star player on a want-to-be playoff team that flounders.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I would not assume either of those things.

I wouldn't suggest you do but they are both well within the realm of reasonable possibilities. I was against drafting Len long before we picked him and to the best of my knowledge I was the first one on this board to raise concern over his legs (more than a month before the draft). But I think it's far too early to write him off. And I have no idea what our intentions are with Bledsoe. Maybe we're planning on building our team around him and maybe we're planning on showcasing him so we can maximize his trade value over the next couple of months. I just don't know, with either guy, and that was my point.

Steve

 

[Superbone]

If we assume the Len pick was wasted and Bledsoe is in Phoenix for one year only, it wouldn't be that big of a deal to add four more young guys.

Man, you guys just don't let up with your premature Len bust talk! You may end up being right in the end but it's way, way, way too early to be making that prediction. (Did I put enough "way"s in there? Not sure.)

 

[JCSunsfan]

Bledsoe isn't going anywhere unless he has a devastating injury, commits a major felony, or goes into hibernation the rest of the year.

 

[Phrazbit]

Bledsoe going elsewhere is extremely unlikely.

As for Len... it would be nice to see something, anything, to make me think it was not a wasted pick. Other than "faith in McD" that pick never made sense to me and so far he is panning out much worse than my low expectations imagined.

Len probably should have been a 4 year college player, he didnt look at like an NBA caliber player last year at Maryland, and he has looked totally lost each time he has been on the court this year.

 

[Superbone]

I think Len's ankles need to heel fully before we can even begin to start evaluating him and even then, big men take longer to develop.

 

[Gaddabout]

I expect at least two of those picks to be packaged in part of a deal for a current NBA player. Or players.

No one is going to be able to trade up. Not going to happen this year. One slot will cost you dearly.

If I had to pick players with those picks, right now, I'd go with:

- Marcus Smart, PG, OK State
- Mitch McGary, PF, Michigan
- James McAdoo, F, North Carolina
- Jahii Carson, PG, ASU

Yeah, I'm a homer. Sue me.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I expect at least two of those picks to be packaged in part of a deal for a current NBA player. Or players.

No one is going to be able to trade up. Not going to happen this year. One slot will cost you dearly.

If I had to pick players with those picks, right now, I'd go with:

- Marcus Smart, PG, OK State
- Mitch McGary, PF, Michigan
- James McAdoo, F, North Carolina
- Jahii Carson, PG, ASU

Yeah, I'm a homer. Sue me.

McGary - puke. Completely marginalized once he faces actual NBA length. Could deal with the rest of the picks, although PG is far less of a need than SG/SF.

 

[Gaddabout]

McGary - puke. Completely marginalized once he faces actual NBA length. Could deal with the rest of the picks, although PG is far less of a need than SG/SF.

Picking for need will get a team in trouble in this draft. There are going to be a lot of busts, and this draft will probably be perceived as overrated in time, if only because most of the kids in the first round will never live up to the hype. But if you pick by BPA, I think you avoid most of that. I call it the "Jordan before Bowie" principal. If Marcus Smart is available at 10, that's the guy I'd go with. And I don't think he has to be a PG. He's a James Harden-type.

I usually go for length and athleticism over production, but I think McGary is going to be a productive pro. I balanced that with McAdoo, who is all length and athleticism and skill. His production is curious.

I took Jahii with the last pick because I think he's going to stick in the NBA. Probably never a starter on a good team, but he could be electric off the bench for anyone.

 

[PhxGametime]

Joel Embiid C Kansas
Nick Johnson G Arizona

Embiid with Suns own Pick. With Len's ankle problems, Embiid would give solid depth and tons of potential. Raw enough to not need monster minutes.

Nick Johnson with Pacers Pick, though Jahii Carson is solid but Nick can defend, top tier athlete, 3PT range, and could take over Ish Smith's position. Jahii seems to need the ball in his hands a lot but either would be solid.

I'd look to Trade for a solid SF or even PF; preferably SF but I've mentioned that a bit much lol

I also read on Arizonasports.com that Suns could offer Gordon Hayward big offer in FA - so if there's no Trade for SF, an International Prospect; and/or another role player with athleticism, size, etc. but oozing with potential. Even without Trade, I'd assume 3 First Rounders at most... I really like Hayward, BTW!

 

[JCSunsfan]

If you already have two excellent pg's on your roster, and you are not picking for need, you better be sure that the player you are picking is good enough for you to trade someone. It does you no good to have an excellent player sitting on the end of the bench collecting splinters. You might be able to trade for a player that will be what you want, but you might as well make sure you can do it.

You take the BPA if there is a player with superstar potential. But when you are choosing between two relatively equal players, I would choose the player that will fill a need and I will be able to develop.

Embiid sees REALLY raw. How do we know he won't be just another JaVale McGee. We could let Ish go and keep Jahii, but that is not all that exciting.

 

[Phrazbit]

I dont see Jahii as an successful NBA player. To make it in the NBA at his height you either need to be an athletic freak, like Nate Robinson, or an outstanding shooter from the outside, and Carson shot 32% from the college 3 last year.

His routine of bouncing around in traffic will not fly in the NBA with the length and quickness of those defenders.

Supposedly he was viewed as a 2nd round talent last year in that crummy draft class, with the monsters coming out this season I certainly dont see him making his way up the board.