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I don't get the "Simmons didn't have the instincts to pick up the running back".

He don't need any instincts for that, it's literally is only job. He just fluffed the play and didn't know what he was supposed to be doing. Which happens with rookies.

Sometimes they go "Crap, I have no idea what I'm doing. I'll just stand here and look pretty and hope the ball don't come near me"
 

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I don't get the "Simmons didn't have the instincts to pick up the running back".

He don't need any instincts for that, it's literally is only job. He just fluffed the play and didn't know what he was supposed to be doing. Which happens with rookies.

Sometimes they go "Crap, I have no idea what I'm doing. I'll just stand here and look pretty and hope the ball don't come near me"

Yes I know but basically the poor play on mostert long touchdown was just instict
Instict make a player react half second faster
he was in the position to make the play, but he hesitate and took the wrong angle without closing the gap and mostert had enough room to go indisturbed to the end zone
I remember Daryl Washington starting at day 1, he would have ran to the running back, attacked him with no hesitation
 
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This is on Keim. This is what you get when you draft players without roles or instincts or to do things they did best in college.

Simmons gives up that second TD because he does not have the natural instincts you want out of a LB. Instead of recognizing the back out of the backfield and going under the TE, he gets caught thinking and then can't make it to cover the RB. It is very similar issues that Reddick has had.

Simmons was best in college when he was in space and could flow freely utilizing his athleticism. That is why many people, like me, thought he would be an awesome SS. We chose to make him an ILBw here false steps and poor leverage get you killed and this is the learning curve that comes with it.

LOL that didn't take long.
 

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LOL that didn't take long.
When I say "this is on Keim" this is what happens when you take an inexperienced player or a position-less player. They take time to develop. You mulligan games in order to attempt to get the player comfortable enough to be able to use their athleticism. Simmons's issues int his game are not far from Reddick's issues over his career. I am confident that Simmons will figure this out and I am not calling him a bust. He has a ton of talent but today he got worked because he is doing something he hasn't really done before.
 

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I don't get the "Simmons didn't have the instincts to pick up the running back".

He don't need any instincts for that, it's literally is only job. He just fluffed the play and didn't know what he was supposed to be doing. Which happens with rookies.

Sometimes they go "Crap, I have no idea what I'm doing. I'll just stand here and look pretty and hope the ball don't come near me"
The first Mostert TD was not having an instinctual knowledge of leverage scraping from the LB spot to the RB heading to the flat. Simmons has to trust his athleticism, trail on the play, and then close once the ball is in the air.

The second TD was because he did not recognize the back out of the backfield with the TE breaking in quick enough so he got caught up in the clutter. LBs have to see it and then fire the gun to be most successful. False steps and hesitation lead to big plays. This was always going to be an area Simmons was going to need to work on.
 

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The first Mostert TD was not having an instinctual knowledge of leverage scraping from the LB spot to the RB heading to the flat. Simmons has to trust his athleticism, trail on the play, and then close once the ball is in the air.

The second TD was because he did not recognize the back out of the backfield with the TE breaking in quick enough so he got caught up in the clutter. LBs have to see it and then fire the gun to be most successful. False steps and hesitation lead to big plays. This was always going to be an area Simmons was going to need to work on
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Really? BANJO was the outside player. Explain his responsibility on that play?
 

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Really? BANJO was the outside player. Explain his responsibility on that play?
Banjo was to play outside leverage and carry the TE to Hicks. Simmons had back out of the backfield to his side of the field. That is why Hicks and Simmons bumped into each other. Hicks read that the RB went to the flat so he had to drop into the area that Simmons was going to vacate. Simmons never left and so you had three dudes in one area. Banjo can't carry the TE to the LB and then get back outside on the RB. NFL players are way to quick for that.
 

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Well... this is what ya get with starting rooks when there's no preseason
 

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Kittle used a pick play on Simmons that should have been called. He was clearly blocking before the ball was snapped. Rewatch it.

Which play, the Mostart TD or the McKinnon TD?
 

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Banjo was to play outside leverage and carry the TE to Hicks. Simmons had back out of the backfield to his side of the field. That is why Hicks and Simmons bumped into each other. Hicks read that the RB went to the flat so he had to drop into the area that Simmons was going to vacate. Simmons never left and so you had three dudes in one area. Banjo can't carry the TE to the LB and then get back outside on the RB. NFL players are way to quick for that.

No offense but I am not so sure about that. We'll never know for sure, but I am of the option that Simmons was to ride the TE, what screwed him up was Kittle ran him right into hicks, and he didn't understand where Hicks was supposed to be, with Banjo being the outside guy he has the flat. The announcer Chris Spellman (SP) who played LB his entire career, alluded to it as well.
 

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No offense but I am not so sure about that. We'll never know for sure, but I am of the option that Simmons was to ride the TE, what screwed him up was Kittle ran him right into hicks, and he didn't understand where Hicks was supposed to be, with Banjo being the outside guy he has the flat. The announcer Chris Spellman (SP) who played LB his entire career, alluded to it as well.
I didn't hear Chris mention that. I will need to rewatch it. Where I struggle in that scenario is why is Hicks rolling to the hook/curl if it isn't to fill the void left by Simmons going to the flat? Simmons picking up the TE and Hicks being right next to him seems to be a flucky coverage scheme.
 

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I didn't hear Chris mention that. I will need to rewatch it. Where I struggle in that scenario is why is Hicks rolling to the hook/curl if it isn't to fill the void left by Simmons going to the flat? Simmons picking up the TE and Hicks being right next to him seems to be a flucky coverage scheme.

Chris Spellman said, "Outside guy, outside coverage."
 
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Need to put him in a position to succeed this week. I worry about his confidence if he gets torched again. Niners had his number and played upon his weaknesses. Washington isn’t nearly as well coached or talented.
 
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