Pitchers traded In Last Year

[Chris_Sanders]

Hmm....

Bauer: 4.52 ERA part time pitcher

Skaggs: career best 4.30 ERA (never below 5.00 prior two seasons). Tommy Johns, out until 2016

Parker: Decent ERA 3.60 2 Tommy Johns surgery. Out until 2015 but may never play again.


I might have said more than once that top prospect doesn't equal top performance...

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Forgot about Kennedy. He is the best of the bunch with a 3.51 ERA right now.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Hmm....

Bauer: 4.52 ERA part time pitcher

Skaggs: career best 4.30 ERA (never below 5.00 prior two seasons). Tommy Johns, out until 2016

Parker: Decent ERA 3.60 2 Tommy Johns surgery. Out until 2015 but may never play again.


I might have said more than once that top prospect doesn't equal top performance...

In his last start, Bauer got his clock cleaned by the marginal at best Yankees...

 

[BC867]

Hmm....

Bauer: 4.52 ERA part time pitcher

Skaggs: career best 4.30 ERA (never below 5.00 prior two seasons). Tommy Johns, out until 2016

Parker: Decent ERA 3.60 2 Tommy Johns surgery. Out until 2015 but may never play again.


I might have said more than once that top prospect doesn't equal top performance...

Shhh! Someone might get the idea that Kevin Towers is Executive of the Year.

 

[Shaggy]

What were they traded for?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Shhh! Someone might get the idea that Kevin Towers is Executive of the Year.

Well that would mean he got back decent things.

His haul for Kennedy has some potential but the rest is trading crap for crap.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

What were they traded for?

Bauer for Didi Gregorious

I like Didi but a top prospect like Bauer (no matter how flawed) should have gotten more. Unfortunately we went out of our way to tell everyone how much he sucks before we traded him.


Parker / Cook for Cahill and Breslow: Parker wasn't very good until this year, Cahill wasn't very bad until this year. We definitely got the shaft when you toss in Cook though, who has been fantastic for the A's.

Skaggs /Eaton (won't add the other part of this for DWKB) for Trumbo. I doubt either team is happy with how this has turned out. AZ has an overpriced Mark Reynolds and Skaggs is out for at least a year.

Kennedy for Stites, Thatcher, and a pick that became Marcus Wilson - Wilson is the #8 prospect for the DBacks now. Stites has good stuff but a bad ERA. Thatcher has been spun into Borenstein and Khrebiel. Borenstein is DBacks current #20 prospect.

Basically I like the Kennedy trade. It is the sort of trades a rebuilding team should be making.

 

[Matt L]

I would still take all three of them and their contracts over Cahill, Arroyo, Nuno and McCarthy

 

[Big Deal]

Bauer for Didi Gregorious

I like Didi but a top prospect like Bauer (no matter how flawed) should have gotten more. Unfortunately we went out of our way to tell everyone how much he sucks before we traded him.


Parker / Cook for Cahill and Breslow: Parker wasn't very good until this year, Cahill wasn't very bad until this year. We definitely got the shaft when you toss in Cook though, who has been fantastic for the A's.

Skaggs /Eaton (won't add the other part of this for DWKB) for Trumbo. I doubt either team is happy with how this has turned out. AZ has an overpriced Mark Reynolds and Skaggs is out for at least a year.

Kennedy for Stites, Thatcher, and a pick that became Marcus Wilson - Wilson is the #8 prospect for the DBacks now. Stites has good stuff but a bad ERA. Thatcher has been spun into Borenstein and Khrebiel. Borenstein is DBacks current #20 prospect.

Basically I like the Kennedy trade. It is the sort of trades a rebuilding team should be making.

You wont add it because you are flat out wrong. The Skaggs Eaton had nothing to do with Reed. Get over it.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-acquire-addison-reed-from-white-sox/4042141/

 

[Chris_Sanders]

You wont add it because you are flat out wrong. The Skaggs Eaton had nothing to do with Reed. Get over it.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-acquire-addison-reed-from-white-sox/4042141/

Yes, specifically the trades were separate though happening congruently. This is why I said I agree with DWKB and left them separate.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Did you have anything to add beyond that in regards to the pitchers traded?

 

[Mulli]

Strange thread title.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Strange thread title.

Better?

 

[Mulli]

Better?

Better.

 

[Big Deal]

Did you have anything to add beyond that in regards to the pitchers traded?

I don't have anything to add, but thanks for asking. My clarification is indeed just and needed. People come to these boards to get/give information on their teams. I for one cannot stand misinformation of any kind and if I can help point out to one of our readers the actual facts of a trade then I will certainly do so.

Maybe some people like it when a co-worker spouts out some untrue sports "fact" and then points to some incorrect message board as backup, but I'd rather the facts are clearly out there.

The trades have NOTHING to do with each other. They don't even have the same teams involved in the trade. That would be like saying the Diamondbacks agreed to a three team/two team trade over several days.

Sorry I will not let this go, but I want to come to this board to read facts.

 

[Mulli]

News on pitchers given up for Campana?

 

[Dback Jon]

News on pitchers given up for Campana?

Your a scrub fan...research it


Jesus Castillo is in Arizona Rookie League
Erich Leal is in Lower A Northwest League, ERA almost 5

 

[Mulli]

Your a scrub fan...research it


Jesus Castillo is in Arizona Rookie League
Erich Leal is in Lower A Northwest League, ERA almost 5

:championship:

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I don't have anything to add, but thanks for asking. My clarification is indeed just and needed. People come to these boards to get/give information on their teams. I for one cannot stand misinformation of any kind and if I can help point out to one of our readers the actual facts of a trade then I will certainly do so.

Maybe some people like it when a co-worker spouts out some untrue sports "fact" and then points to some incorrect message board as backup, but I'd rather the facts are clearly out there.

The trades have NOTHING to do with each other. They don't even have the same teams involved in the trade. That would be like saying the Diamondbacks agreed to a three team/two team trade over several days.

Sorry I will not let this go, but I want to come to this board to read facts.

....I said he was right in that it is an individual transaction but since you clearly want to grasp on something

If you have two transactions that happen within 1 week of each other, from a management standpoint are you more likely to be:

A) looking at each transaction individually
B) looking at the two transactions with the idea of a final product.

It is entirely possible that the negotiations for two trades that happened within 1 week of each other were negotiated entirely independently but it doesn't add up to me. So I choose "A"

Now is the real reason for this stand:

A) You are guarding our forum members from disinformation about which of the two trades to the White Sox Eaton was on.

or

B) You are looking for a reason to argue with me?


If it is B, I really have no desire to argue with you. If it is "A" well...thanks for looking out for our members.

 

[Dback Jon]

Skaggs trade, 8 month review:

Dbacks gave up:
Tyler Skaggs - mediocre In 2014, Collmenter, Nuno and especially Chase Anderson have all pitched better in 2014 than Skaggs. Injured, out until at least 2016, may never pitch again.
Adam Eaton - 1 HR, 32 RBI's, OPS .771 on DL for second time this season.

Dbacks got:
Mark Trumbo - 8 HR, 32 RBI's, OPS .672, was on DL.
Brandon Jacobs - 15 HR, 34 RBI's in High A
AJ Schugel - pitching decent in AA

While Trumbo isn't much, the Dbacks didn't give up anything to get him.

And, it gave players like Chase Anderson and David Peralta a chance to shine.

So far, both those players have performed better than Skaggs and Eaton.

 

[unseenaz]

....I said he was right in that it is an individual transaction but since you clearly want to grasp on something

If you have two transactions that happen within 1 week of each other, from a management standpoint are you more likely to be:

A) looking at each transaction individually
B) looking at the two transactions with the idea of a final product.

It is entirely possible that the negotiations for two trades that happened within 1 week of each other were negotiated entirely independently but it doesn't add up to me. So I choose "A"

Now is the real reason for this stand:

A) You are guarding our forum members from disinformation about which of the two trades to the White Sox Eaton was on.

or

B) You are looking for a reason to argue with me?


If it is B, I really have no desire to argue with you. If it is "A" well...thanks for looking out for our members.

I feel like you are just trying to pick fights in here? Not sure why, never seen this behavior from you. Think this discussion with a level mind if you aren't already.

The points you're making are pure speculation, here are the facts;

Eaton went to the Whitesox in a 3 team deal that netted us Trumbo.

6 days later we traded Davidson for Reed straight up, this wasn't a case of PTBNL or anything of that nature.

 

[unseenaz]

Skaggs trade, 8 month review:

Dbacks gave up:
Tyler Skaggs - mediocre In 2014, Collmenter, Nuno and especially Chase Anderson have all pitched better in 2014 than Skaggs. Injured, out until at least 2016, may never pitch again.
Adam Eaton - 1 HR, 32 RBI's, OPS .771 on DL for second time this season.

Dbacks got:
Mark Trumbo - 8 HR, 32 RBI's, OPS .672, was on DL.
Brandon Jacobs - 15 HR, 34 RBI's in High A
AJ Schugel - pitching decent in AA

While Trumbo isn't much, the Dbacks didn't give up anything to get him.

And, it gave players like Chase Anderson and David Peralta a chance to shine.

So far, both those players have performed better than Skaggs and Eaton.

When Skaggs was first traded Gambo said that one of his sources said the DBacks "knew something about Skaggs" and he said it was unfavorable information. Gambo has sources all over professional sports and they always seem to be spot on, so this news now makes sense

 

[82CardsGrad]

Skaggs trade, 8 month review:

Dbacks gave up:
Tyler Skaggs - mediocre In 2014, Collmenter, Nuno and especially Chase Anderson have all pitched better in 2014 than Skaggs. Injured, out until at least 2016, may never pitch again.
Adam Eaton - 1 HR, 32 RBI's, OPS .771 on DL for second time this season.

Dbacks got:
Mark Trumbo - 8 HR, 32 RBI's, OPS .672, was on DL.
Brandon Jacobs - 15 HR, 34 RBI's in High A
AJ Schugel - pitching decent in AA

While Trumbo isn't much, the Dbacks didn't give up anything to get him.

And, it gave players like Chase Anderson and David Peralta a chance to shine.

So far, both those players have performed better than Skaggs and Eaton.

Yep...

 

[Dback Jon]

Question - Say Player A is traded to Team A for Player B. Then the team turns around and trades Player C (who plays same position as Player B) to Team C - wouldn't you consider the trades somewhat linked? In other words, once Player B is acquired, Player C becomes expendable and available to trade.

 

[Mulli]

Wow, Towers was right about the deck chairs after all: