POLL: Sean Payton in 2023 (Officially Going to Denver)

[Redsz]

FWIW An update from Albright on Payton from the recent PHNX podcast:

1. Not necessarily the guy in Denver. Still other coaches who are going to get vetted.

2. Things have slowed down with AZ as he isn't one of MO's "guys". Could still interview.

3. Cardinals are going to interview Gannon who is the DC for Eagles for the HC job.

4. The cost of Payton in terms of salary and draft picks has turned off some teams.

5. Oh and he said that VJ is a legit candidate for our HC role which is just terrifying.

 

[Redsz]

Sorry Albright added a caveat on VJ in that he is the back up plan if they miss out on external candidates.

 

[Solar7]

Thanks @Redsz for the insight!

I'm starting to feel like #4... Two firsts and all of that money? Nope. I felt like the Saints were bluffing, but if they're gonna hold the line, that's setting up Payton to fail, and potentially just burning cash.

Now, I think the Saints are complete idiots for thinking that any of the teams looking for a head coach right now could give that up for Payton's expertise, but if they're going to have a burr up their butt, more power to them, and let's move on.

I've been the biggest Payton stan on the board recently, but even I'm starting to become disillusioned.

 

[BritCard]

Thanks @Redsz for the insight!

I'm starting to feel like #4... Two firsts and all of that money? Nope. I felt like the Saints were bluffing, but if they're gonna hold the line, that's setting up Payton to fail, and potentially just burning cash.

Now, I think the Saints are complete idiots for thinking that any of the teams looking for a head coach right now could give that up for Payton's expertise, but if they're going to have a burr up their butt, more power to them, and let's move on.

I've been the biggest Payton stan on the board recently, but even I'm starting to become disillusioned.

Yup I'm bored of him already. Guy's just the coaching version of a prick tease.

 

[Gandhi]

Now, I think the Saints are complete idiots for thinking that any of the teams looking for a head coach right now could give that up for Payton's expertise

Really? I could easily see the Broncos do that.

Anyway, I am starting to warm up to DeMeco Ryans. To me, he sounds like a budding star as a head coach, since he apparently has focus on both sides of the ball, is a great communicator, and have his players fight for him. Attributes that are ten times more valuable for a head coach than if he can call plays. I really like the idea of him as the HC with Flores as the DC and Greg Roman as the OC. I mean, I think the option to bring in Flores would still be there even if he doesn't get the head coach job, and Roman created succesful offenses around Kaepernick and Lamar Jackson. That has to be attractive to Bidwill and Ossenfort.

 

[Solar7]

Really? I could easily see the Broncos do that.

Anyway, I am starting to warm up to DeMeco Ryans. To me, he sounds like a budding star as a head coach, since he apparently has focus on both sides of the ball, is a great communicator, and have his players fight for him. Attributes that are ten times more valuable for a head coach than if he can call plays. I really like the idea of him as the HC with Flores as the DC and Greg Roman as the OC. I mean, I think the option to bring in Flores would still be there even if he doesn't get the head coach job, and Roman created succesful offenses around Kaepernick and Lamar Jackson. That has to be attractive to Bidwill and Ossenfort.

The Broncos just gave up so much for Russell Wilson, and their roster just isn't that great anymore. They can pay Payton all of the money in the world, no doubt, but I don't see him succeeding with there years of sold off first round picks, a 34 year old QB in a clear decline, an RB room led by a guy with an ACL tear, and a defense that traded away key pieces, where his rumored DC (Fangio) won't be coming back to town.

PeyPey and the Saints seem to be pricing themselves out of the market. No major arguments to the rest of your points though!

 

[az jam]

I'm off the Payton wagon. The draft picks and salary demands are too high.

 

[PACardsFan]

Really? I could easily see the Broncos do that.

Anyway, I am starting to warm up to DeMeco Ryans. To me, he sounds like a budding star as a head coach, since he apparently has focus on both sides of the ball, is a great communicator, and have his players fight for him. Attributes that are ten times more valuable for a head coach than if he can call plays. I really like the idea of him as the HC with Flores as the DC and Greg Roman as the OC. I mean, I think the option to bring in Flores would still be there even if he doesn't get the head coach job, and Roman created succesful offenses around Kaepernick and Lamar Jackson. That has to be attractive to Bidwill and Ossenfort.

I don’t disagree & I like Ryans, but I think that Flores is better suited as a HC.

 

[Chopper0080]

I am ok with the idea of Ryans and LaFluer at OC.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I am ok with the idea of Ryans and LaFluer at OC.

Rams are gonna nab LaFluer.

 

[TheCardFan]

Rams are gonna nab LaFluer.

Elijah Moore told Mike LaFleur ‘go f–k yourself’ during Jets practice blowup

Jets wideout Elijah Moore wasn’t satisfied with zero targets in an October game, and his frustration with Mike LaFleur boiled over during practice.

nypost.com

 

[Outerlimits]

I'm off the Payton wagon. The draft picks and salary demands are too high.

I don't care about the salary aspect since I am not writing the checks. Draft pick demands are way too high though.

Doesn't change the fact I think he is the best available among a rather bleh group of candidates

 

[Jasper]

Yes I’m thinking Payton was never really a possibility and just a tease.

 

[Dayman]

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Payton is doing his second interview with Denver.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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Payton is doing his second interview with Denver.

That's very new. Just about 30 minutes ago they reported on the radio the Bronco's didn't have any 2nd interviews scheduled yet.

 

[Dayman]

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[legend]

our usual drive up the price leverage appearance . .

 

[Totally_Red]

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Confirmed by Rapsheet who said 2nd Denver interview was cancelled because of Cardinal interview.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I'd have a hard time giving up a high first round pick (2023 or 2024) for a coach. That would give me serious heartburn.

 

[oaken1]

Confirmed by Rapsheet who said 2nd Denver interview was cancelled because of Cardinal interview.

I saw "delayed"... big difference

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Confirmed by Rapsheet who said 2nd Denver interview was cancelled because of Cardinal interview.

Now that IS INTERESTING

 

[GatorAZ]

We have 5 picks in the top-105 this year. Perfect chance to build the trenches!! We’re likely picking top-10 next year. Sorry Saints.

 

[TRW]

I'll just be glad when they make their decision and then on to the next 100 page thread on those that like the choice and those that hate the move.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Is Jurecki legit or just emotional?

His sources are the old crew - AW, Harris, Grigson, etc.

 

[Dback Jon]

I'd have a hard time giving up a high first round pick (2023 or 2024) for a coach. That would give me serious heartburn.

Same here