POLL: Sean Payton in 2023 (Officially Going to Denver)

[RON_IN_OC]

I'd say Aaron Donald is, yes.

How good were the Rams with Donald and Fisher? Toiling in mediocrity.

Donald started winning MVP's after Fisher and his staff left the building. He was good, but became an absolute great beast.

 

[QuebecCard]

Raiders aren’t doing a trade until they know who is on board and we aren’t waiting until the draft for Payton and New Orleans will want the compensation agreed to the second we try to sign Payton.

Why not?

At #3 the Raiders get either one of the three top-rated QBs or one of the two best defensive prospects. They don't have to wait to know this.

 

[DVontel]

How good were the Rams with Donald and Fisher? Toiling in mediocrity.

but they also got their new, great HC after Fisher without trading steep compensation.

 

[Zeno]

Why not?

At #3 the Raiders get either one of the three top-rated QBs or one of the two best defensive prospects. They don't have to wait to know this.

So they will do this prior to the combine, pro visits etc? I don’t see it. When is the last time a team has swapped picks outside of the #1 overall prior to the draft?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

but they also got their new, great HC after Fisher without trading steep compensation.

Ok, so Cards stay at #3 and don't get Payton...Draft Anderson, who may, or may not turn out great under the coaching of Vance Joseph...then we hope and pray in 3-4 years the Cards fire Vance and finally get a good HC?

 

[kerouac9]

So they will do this prior to the combine, pro visits etc? I don’t see it. When is the last time a team has swapped picks outside of the #1 overall prior to the draft?

Didn’t the 49ers do it like two years ago?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Zeno]

Didn’t the 49ers do it like two years ago?

You are right, I forgot about that. I stand corrected

It was however after combine and during the pro visit time.

 

[QuebecCard]

And it gets Payton off the Saints payroll.

He's not on the payroll. The Saints own his coaching rights until the end of the 2024 season.

 

[DVontel]

Ok, so Cards stay at #3 and don't get Payton...Draft Anderson, who may, or may not turn out great under the coaching of Vance Joseph...then we hope and pray in 3-4 years the Cards fire Vance and finally get a good HC?

Watt, Reddick, Chandler Jones, & Golden all have had good-to-great pass-rushing seasons under Vance. Anderson won’t be the first.

But I doubt Vance will be the HC.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

So they will do this prior to the combine, pro visits etc? I don’t see it. When is the last time a team has swapped picks outside of the #1 overall prior to the draft?

Well, the Broncos litterally traded a truckload of draft picks, including in the 2022 and 2023 drafts (1st's +) on March 8, 2022...well before the 2022 draft. Does that count?

 

[BritCard]

Didn’t the 49ers do it like two years ago?

And the Jets to go to 3 for Darnold.

 

[QuebecCard]

I'm sure the negotiations would include the Cards picking up and reimbursing that salary to term.

Why?

He stepped away. He's not being paid by the Saints. They simply own his coaching rights until the end of the 2024 season.

 

[BritCard]

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A Saints fan would say that.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Watt, Reddick, Chandler Jones, & Golden all have had good-to-great pass-rushing seasons under Vance. Anderson won’t be the first.

But I doubt Vance will be the HC.

I think the only one of the 4 you mentioned that Vance can even possibly say he coached up is Reddick. Watt, Jones and even Golden were already doing their thing...did Vance make them better???

 

[Zeno]

Well, the Broncos litterally traded a truckload of draft picks, including in the 2022 and 2023 drafts (1st's +) on March 8, 2022...well before the 2022 draft. Does that count?

Wasn’t that for Russell Wilson? Not swapping picks for picks or was that a different trade?

 

[oaken1]

Nah, whatever the snag was at Mile High, Payton's interview did not go well because there was friction and Payton is just playing damage control by what was getting out. Only stating this because there was a response from a former player still close to the team unnamed and some other source close to the Broncos which again stated the interview did not go well after Payton made those tweets

or denver just back pedaling to save face because SP was never going to go there anyway and he used them for leverage...
He plainly stated he wanted a warm climate team. Denver was never in the running.

 

[kerouac9]

A Saints fan would say that.

Yeah. Payton is a good not great coach, IMO.

The Cards got like a 5th for Bruce Arians?

 

[QuebecCard]

So they will do this prior to the combine, pro visits etc? I don’t see it. When is the last time a team has swapped picks outside of the #1 overall prior to the draft?

To the question: I don't know, but I do know that every team has done oodles of research on the top prospects by now.

 

[DVontel]

I think the only one of the 4 you mentioned that Vance can even possibly say he coached up is Reddick. Watt, Jones and even Golden were already doing their thing...did Vance make them better???

I don’t think he made them worse. Age just got the best of Chandler, as you can tell with Chandler’s year in Vegas. Golden was already slow even at his peak, now he’s a snail.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Didn’t the 49ers do it like two years ago?

Yup...Niners traded up and everyone thought it was for Mac Jones, then on draft day they stunned and took Trey Lance.

 

[BritCard]

Yeah. Payton is a good not great coach, IMO.

The Cards got like a 5th for Bruce Arians?

I think it was a 6th for 7th pick swap.

 

[SoonerLou]

Ok, so Cards stay at #3 and don't get Payton...Draft Anderson, who may, or may not turn out great under the coaching of Vance Joseph...then we hope and pray in 3-4 years the Cards fire Vance and finally get a good HC?

Im not in favor of trading the 3 pick FWIW.

If you're the 49ers would you rather have Kyle Shanahan or Nick Bosa.

 

[Zalixar]

Im not in favor of trading the 3 pick FWIW.

If you're the 49ers would you rather have Kyle Shanahan or Nick Bosa.

I mean, Shanahan.

Also, the 9ers wouldn't give up Shanahan for the #1 overall either.

 

[Shane]

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Did he call him a coward?