Post Bowl game Cardinals mock

[Cbus cardsfan]

Now that the bowl games are over and there is a better idea of who is going pro or staying in college, I thought I'd give my Cards mock draft:

1) Chance Warmack,OG Alabama: Keim said in his presser that he wants the Cards to be better at running the ball. Why not draft the best run blocker in the draft? #7 may be high for a guard, but Warmack is the exception. One note, if KC opts for Geno Smith, there's a decent chance that Joeckel is there for the Cards and will make it a very tough decision.

2) Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas: I think he's the best QB in the draft. He's tough and can make all the throws. Plus, I've only been touting him for 2 years .

3) Travis Frederick, OG/C Wisconsin: With their first 3 picks, the Cards will have adressed their biggest needs on offense. If they want to run the ball, you can't go wrong with Frederick. First off, Wisky always produces good NFL O-linemen. Secondly, he and Warmack would be long term solutions to the interior OL. He played C this year for Wisky and was not as effective early in the year. But as a guard in '11 he was a dominant player. I know Chopper concurs .

4) Mike Gillislee, RB Florida: Every year there is RB that stands out to me and this year it was Gillislee. He led the SEC in rushing and put up yardage against good defenses. Also, this was his first year as a starter so he should have "fresh" legs upon entering the NFL. He's bigger than he looks and has good speed.

5) William Gholston, DE Michigan St: This may seem late for him but I think he'll fall in the draft. After a promising start to his career, he had a very down year for the Spartans. I think many may think he's a 3-4 OLB but I don't think he can play that in the NFL and is better suited for a 3-4 DE, which will also cause a slide. He has the physical ability but so did Vernon.

6) Quanterus Smith, OLB Western Kentucky: A pure potential pick. He had flashes of brilliance and then disappears for games. He recorded 3 sacks on Bama and DJ Fluker. He has the size/speed combo that could make him an asset in the NFL. I have seen this guy all over the board in mocks.

6) Ray Ray Armstrong, SS Faulkner: I was touting this guy for the Cards in round 2 last year. But, he decided to return to Miami and then declared inelgible for most of the season. He then transferred to Faulkner but never played because of elgibility issues again. He was suspended/inelgible because of agent issues, that doesn't mean he can't play or isn't very talented. Definitely worth the gamble late in the draft.

7) Jake Stoneburner, TE Ohio State: He's in the mold of Housler and can give the Cards depth at the position. He's not much of a bloacker but he has receiving skills even though they were kind of wasted because Terrelle Pryor and Braxton Miller are terrible passers. He's very athletic and has good size/speed combo.

Note: I'm not sure what pick the Cards receive for AJ Jefferson, if it's a 6 or 7, that's the pick I'm using for Armstrong.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

Your mock is solid.

I like your mock but 1) Jockel will not get past the Eagles so it is probably Warmack or a tackle at 7th and 2) I like Wilson but do not think he will be available in the 2nd.

 

[WildBB]

2) Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas: I think he's the best QB in the draft. He's tough and can make all the throws. Plus, I've only been touting him for 2 years .

This is the thing about mocks. What are REALLY the chances a QB of his potential makes it that far down. 1/10, maybe more. I think he gets picked in the 20's by someone either trading up OR someone right ahead of us in the 2nd. RD.

I think we wind up with Glennon, Bray, Nassib or Dysart. Just the way things look to fall. I'd be sure surprised to see Wilson there if we're staying put.

Most of what we'd like is wishful thinking of where they'd fall , but mock on.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Not familiar with many College players, but, like the thinking supporting this mock. Would, however, like to see a primarily blocking TE somewhere in the mix.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Not familiar with many College players, but, like the thinking supporting this mock. Would, however, like to see a primarily blocking TE somewhere in the mix.

A blocking TE can be had in my opinion as a undrafted free agent rookie and we should not waste a pick on that. I like this mock with Warmack a lot and Wilson is my favorite QB but we will have to trade back into the 1st round to have a shot at him.

 

[LarryStalling]

Living in Arkansas, even considering his poor receiving corps, I don't think as highly of Wilson as some on this board do.

 

[wa52lz]

I cant imigine drafting someone named Ray Ray that went to Miami and has eligiblity issues working out well.

 

[BigRedRage]

I just hope we get a top notch guard or tackle at #7. Improving our line will drastically improve our offense regardless of who is at QB.

Too much last year we had to watch the one step drop swing pass or the 3 step drop chuck it high because your about to be sacked pass.

If we could simply open some holes and give a qb a few extra seconds things would go a hell of a lot better.

Awesome oline = plug and play at RB and much easier play for QBs. If the defense continues, championship caliber team with better line.

 

[Chopper0080]

Now that the bowl games are over and there is a better idea of who is going pro or staying in college, I thought I'd give my Cards mock draft:

1) Chance Warmack,OG Alabama: Keim said in his presser that he wants the Cards to be better at running the ball. Why not draft the best run blocker in the draft? #7 may be high for a guard, but Warmack is the exception. One note, if KC opts for Geno Smith, there's a decent chance that Joeckel is there for the Cards and will make it a very tough decision.

2) Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas: I think he's the best QB in the draft. He's tough and can make all the throws. Plus, I've only been touting him for 2 years .

3) Travis Frederick, OG/C Wisconsin: With their first 3 picks, the Cards will have adressed their biggest needs on offense. If they want to run the ball, you can't go wrong with Frederick. First off, Wisky always produces good NFL O-linemen. Secondly, he and Warmack would be long term solutions to the interior OL. He played C this year for Wisky and was not as effective early in the year. But as a guard in '11 he was a dominant player. I know Chopper concurs .

4) Mike Gillislee, RB Florida: Every year there is RB that stands out to me and this year it was Gillislee. He led the SEC in rushing and put up yardage against good defenses. Also, this was his first year as a starter so he should have "fresh" legs upon entering the NFL. He's bigger than he looks and has good speed.

5) William Gholston, DE Michigan St: This may seem late for him but I think he'll fall in the draft. After a promising start to his career, he had a very down year for the Spartans. I think many may think he's a 3-4 OLB but I don't think he can play that in the NFL and is better suited for a 3-4 DE, which will also cause a slide. He has the physical ability but so did Vernon.

6) Quanterus Smith, OLB Western Kentucky: A pure potential pick. He had flashes of brilliance and then disappears for games. He recorded 3 sacks on Bama and DJ Fluker. He has the size/speed combo that could make him an asset in the NFL. I have seen this guy all over the board in mocks.

6) Ray Ray Armstrong, SS Faulkner: I was touting this guy for the Cards in round 2 last year. But, he decided to return to Miami and then declared inelgible for most of the season. He then transferred to Faulkner but never played because of elgibility issues again. He was suspended/inelgible because of agent issues, that doesn't mean he can't play or isn't very talented. Definitely worth the gamble late in the draft.

7) Jake Stoneburner, TE Ohio State: He's in the mold of Housler and can give the Cards depth at the position. He's not much of a bloacker but he has receiving skills even though they were kind of wasted because Terrelle Pryor and Braxton Miller are terrible passers. He's very athletic and has good size/speed combo.

Note: I'm not sure what pick the Cards receive for AJ Jefferson, if it's a 6 or 7, that's the pick I'm using for Armstrong.

I HAVE BEEN HACKED!!! CBUS HAS STOLEN MY MOCK DRAFT!!!

I am 100% behind the first three picks. The wild card is Tyler Wilson, and if he is not there, then I am taking Margus Hunt. I agree on Warmack as he improves both our running game AND our passing game. I really like Travis Frederick and you are correct he is a better OG than C, but his abilty to play both makes him very valuable IMO. I'm not in love with any RB in this draft, but I do understand the need. Quanterus Smith is a top pass rusher who would give us a really talented rush option in passing downs. He will need work, but he has a ton of skill. I'm not a huge fan of Gholston or Armstrong, but I see the reasoning behind them both.

The first 3 rounds could not go better for the Cardinals IMO.

 

[az jam]

I like Warmack at #7 and QB Tyler Wilson but feel he won't be there when we pick in the 2nd round. Maybe take Barkley although that won't be popular. We do need to draft a qb in the early rounds.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

This mock is A++.

 

[HoodieBets]

I will sig bet anyone that barkley will be taken before Wilson and that Wilson will last until the 2nd round.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Your mock is solid.

I like your mock but 1) Jockel will not get past the Eagles so it is probably Warmack or a tackle at 7th and 2) I like Wilson but do not think he will be available in the 2nd.

I agree that it's doubtful Joeckel is there at 7 BUT, if KC takes Geno Smith, the Eagles have their pro bowl LT(his name escapes me right now) returning from injury and they could look elsewhere. I would love if the Cards had this choice to make. If I was drafting for KC, he would be the #1 pick without question.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

This is the thing about mocks. What are REALLY the chances a QB of his potential makes it that far down. 1/10, maybe more. I think he gets picked in the 20's by someone either trading up OR someone right ahead of us in the 2nd. RD.

I think we wind up with Glennon, Bray, Nassib or Dysart. Just the way things look to fall. I'd be sure surprised to see Wilson there if we're staying put.

Most of what we'd like is wishful thinking of where they'd fall , but mock on.

It will be iffy that Wilson is there at 37. If KC passes on Geno, I think Wilson will be available. Evenso, if a trade up is necesaary, we could give up a pick the following year, say a 3rd or 4th, to move up 10 spots, or so, to acquire him and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Alot will depend on how the QB ratings shake out. If it's Smith, Glennon, Barkley, then Wilson, I think he's available at 37. If he shoots up to #1,2, or 3, a trade is probably needed.

 

[Chopper0080]

I agree that it's doubtful Joeckel is there at 7 BUT, if KC takes Geno Smith, the Eagles have their pro bowl LT(his name escapes me right now) returning from injury and they could look elsewhere. I would love if the Cards had this choice to make. If I was drafting for KC, he would be the #1 pick without question.

Jason Peters is the name you are looking for, and his health is a huge question mark for that team. It will be interesting to see what KC does, because they also have to make a decision on Brandon Albert.

 

[football karma]

while easy to say: right now I am thinking the best strategy is to try to trade down and accumulate picks in the #20 - #60 range

it sure seems like after about 5 players, the talent level drops --

yet there are a bunch of players who could all help the Cards immensely in that #20 - #60 range.

some:

Zach Ertz or Tyler Eifert, complete TEs who can block and have with great hands -an excellent compliment to Housler

Tyler Wilson, Ryan Nassib, et al -

DJ Fluker, a guard, Barrett Jones, C or G, Obay Aboushi, an OT. Eric Fisher, OT might be around in the #20s,


While Warmack and Wilson might be nice -- I feel like Ertz, Wilson and Fluker is better

 

[kerouac9]

I like Warmack at #7 and QB Tyler Wilson but feel he won't be there when we pick in the 2nd round. Maybe take Barkley although that won't be popular. We do need to draft a qb in the early rounds.

That's an interesting idea, but who in the late-teens to the end of the first round is going to be looking for a quarterback? These are teams that were on the cusp of the playoffs with the guy they had. If Jacksonville and KC get a solution in the early part of the draft, they're not going back to one. Detroit, the Giants, the Dolphins, etc. aren't going to be looking.

Maybe the Bills and a couple of other teams will be cruising, but I don't know this is a situation like the 2011 draft where a ton of QBs go flying off the board early. There are also guys like Landry Jones who will be appealing to some teams.

 

[Chopper0080]

That's an interesting idea, but who in the late-teens to the end of the first round is going to be looking for a quarterback? These are teams that were on the cusp of the playoffs with the guy they had. If Jacksonville and KC get a solution in the early part of the draft, they're not going back to one. Detroit, the Giants, the Dolphins, etc. aren't going to be looking.

Maybe the Bills and a couple of other teams will be cruising, but I don't know this is a situation like the 2011 draft where a ton of QBs go flying off the board early. There are also guys like Landry Jones who will be appealing to some teams.

I think you will see many teams that need QBs try and get one in the second round in this draft. Little seperation between QBs and some prime talent at the top of the draft.

 

[HoodieBets]

I think you will see many teams that need QBs try and get one in the second round in this draft. Little seperation between QBs and some prime talent at the top of the draft.

Dont be surprised that Smith goes to KC in Rd 1, Glennon goes to Buff in Rd 1, and Barkley goes to Clev in Rd2 with us getting Wilson in Rd2.

 

[Chopper0080]

Dont be surprised that Smith goes to KC in Rd 1, Glennon goes to Buff in Rd 1, and Barkley goes to Clev in Rd2 with us getting Wilson in Rd2.

Film will keep Glennon out of the top 15 as his film sucks. His physical ability is good and should see him drafted by mid 2nd round.

 

[HoodieBets]

Film will keep Glennon out of the top 15 as his film sucks. His physical ability is good and should see him drafted by mid 2nd round.

I think he will look so good at the combine he will be a top 10 pick with buff. He is touted as the most NFL ready QB in the draft and the Bills have already come out and said they will take a franchise QB in this draft.

Also mid 2nd? If we draft Wilson over Glennon then I will seriously doubt this scouting dept and new GM.

 

[PJ1]

The first two picks are exactly what I want and would be thrilled if Wilson is there for us.

Can't really speak to the rest of it other than Gillislee who I have seen play a few times and really like him.

 

[TigToad]

Sign me up. I'd be very happy.

Now that the bowl games are over and there is a better idea of who is going pro or staying in college, I thought I'd give my Cards mock draft:

1) Chance Warmack,OG Alabama: Keim said in his presser that he wants the Cards to be better at running the ball. Why not draft the best run blocker in the draft? #7 may be high for a guard, but Warmack is the exception. One note, if KC opts for Geno Smith, there's a decent chance that Joeckel is there for the Cards and will make it a very tough decision.

2) Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas: I think he's the best QB in the draft. He's tough and can make all the throws. Plus, I've only been touting him for 2 years .

3) Travis Frederick, OG/C Wisconsin: With their first 3 picks, the Cards will have adressed their biggest needs on offense. If they want to run the ball, you can't go wrong with Frederick. First off, Wisky always produces good NFL O-linemen. Secondly, he and Warmack would be long term solutions to the interior OL. He played C this year for Wisky and was not as effective early in the year. But as a guard in '11 he was a dominant player. I know Chopper concurs .

4) Mike Gillislee, RB Florida: Every year there is RB that stands out to me and this year it was Gillislee. He led the SEC in rushing and put up yardage against good defenses. Also, this was his first year as a starter so he should have "fresh" legs upon entering the NFL. He's bigger than he looks and has good speed.

5) William Gholston, DE Michigan St: This may seem late for him but I think he'll fall in the draft. After a promising start to his career, he had a very down year for the Spartans. I think many may think he's a 3-4 OLB but I don't think he can play that in the NFL and is better suited for a 3-4 DE, which will also cause a slide. He has the physical ability but so did Vernon.

6) Quanterus Smith, OLB Western Kentucky: A pure potential pick. He had flashes of brilliance and then disappears for games. He recorded 3 sacks on Bama and DJ Fluker. He has the size/speed combo that could make him an asset in the NFL. I have seen this guy all over the board in mocks.

6) Ray Ray Armstrong, SS Faulkner: I was touting this guy for the Cards in round 2 last year. But, he decided to return to Miami and then declared inelgible for most of the season. He then transferred to Faulkner but never played because of elgibility issues again. He was suspended/inelgible because of agent issues, that doesn't mean he can't play or isn't very talented. Definitely worth the gamble late in the draft.

7) Jake Stoneburner, TE Ohio State: He's in the mold of Housler and can give the Cards depth at the position. He's not much of a bloacker but he has receiving skills even though they were kind of wasted because Terrelle Pryor and Braxton Miller are terrible passers. He's very athletic and has good size/speed combo.

Note: I'm not sure what pick the Cards receive for AJ Jefferson, if it's a 6 or 7, that's the pick I'm using for Armstrong.

 

[Chopper0080]

I think he will look so good at the combine he will be a top 10 pick with buff. He is touted as the most NFL ready QB in the draft and the Bills have already come out and said they will take a franchise QB in this draft.

Also mid 2nd? If we draft Wilson over Glennon then I will seriously doubt this scouting dept and new GM.

Please give me a link to where you have heard this? Ryan Nassib and Matt Barkley are the most NFL ready though they both have arm strength concerns. Kiper is on Glennon because of his arm strength but the guys who watch film all admit Glennon does not have one signature game to back a high grade.

 

[WildBB]

It will be iffy that Wilson is there at 37. If KC passes on Geno, I think Wilson will be available. Evenso, if a trade up is necesaary, we could give up a pick the following year, say a 3rd or 4th, to move up 10 spots, or so, to acquire him and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Alot will depend on how the QB ratings shake out. If it's Smith, Glennon, Barkley, then Wilson, I think he's available at 37. If he shoots up to #1,2, or 3, a trade is probably needed.

I disagree, it would take our 2 and 3 this yr. to move up into the back of the 1st.

Or 2 this yr. and 2 the next.