Post Packers Overreaction Thread 2024

[Bobster]

Let's face it, the Cardinals would be 1-5 if SF's kicker hadn't gotten hurt.

They don't have enough talent to be competitive, especially on defense.

 

[cardcrazy]

There’s no excuse for this kind of display. Gannon should be feeling the heat. 2nd year and you put this trash on the field?
Monte as well! Didn’t acquire sufficient talent.

No name Dline gets 0 pressure
Secondary is below average
No legit #1 receiver
Kyler Murray is inconsistent
Team as a whole is bipolar.
You never know who’s gonna show up!

 

[football karma]

i think Monti's approach to rebuilding the defense has cost this year's team any chance to win consistently

 

[BirdGangThing]

i always wear cards gear on mondays after games - specially after losses but not tomorrow - my coworkers are going to trip out

 

[DaHilg]

Not getting McBride the ball early and often remains an unforced error. Good things happen when Trey McBride is involved.

But those 2 yard runs and screen plays to our plodder were much more important

 

[DaHilg]

JC now has 3 games with less than 3.4 ypc (3.4, 3.1 and 1.9). Im going take a wild guess that you aren’t going to win a lot of games hanging your hat on a running game that lacks any explosiveness in 2024. Love the guys heart, physicality but he should simply be a commentary pieces and who you grind out time with a lead with

 

[D-Dogg]

I expected a loss. I didn't expect the defense to do a 180 from last week, my god. The fumbles were absolutely horrible. And the penalties were absolutely unacceptable, especially Beachum moving early with NOBODY lined up against him.

And I fully expect a win on MNF. This team is so bipolar.

 

[Russ Smith]

AS someone said in the game thread we were terrible and we lost a ton of guys to injury.

Just brutal.

Also crazy that we have 2 rookies taken in the first 3 rounds that can't figure out what route to run or when they're going to get a handoff. I hope Marv is ok but he was awful today, running wrong route, drop right in his hands on the play he got hurt on.

and then all the penalties and turnovers

 

[Crimson Warrior]

JC now has 3 games with less than 3.4 ypc (3.4, 3.1 and 1.9). Im going take a wild guess that you aren’t going to win a lot of games hanging your hat on a running game that lacks any explosiveness in 2024. Love the guys heart, physicality but he should simply be a commentary pieces and who you grind out time with a lead with

Except for PJJ, the offensive line is not playing as well as it did last year.

Straight up. Run blocking is just okay, pass blocking has been pretty bad.

 

[DaHilg]

Except for PJJ, the offensive line is not playing as well as it did last year.

Straight up. Run blocking is just okay, pass blocking has been pretty bad.

Agreed w that.. but again it’s 2024. To have a plodder as the center piece of your offense is laughable. He’s good the 2 things i said. There’s no threat of going to the house, you’re just hoping he wears the defense down.

 

[602 Native]

Don’t think you can overreact about how bad this team is.
If I were Hassan Reddick there isn’t any way I would come back to this franchise.

 

[D-Dogg]

AS someone said in the game thread we were terrible and we lost a ton of guys to injury.

Just brutal.

Also crazy that we have 2 rookies taken in the first 3 rounds that can't figure out what route to run or when they're going to get a handoff. I hope Marv is ok but he was awful today, running wrong route, drop right in his hands on the play he got hurt on.

and then all the penalties and turnovers

Benson looked like he was trying to block.. I knew that was gonna be busted when Kyler had to keep talking to him.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

He deserves to ride the pine as part of the problem today.

I will clarify. Several of his good runs got wiped out by odd penalties.

 

[Russ Smith]

Agred w that.. but again it’s 2024. To have a plodder as the center piece of your offense is laughable. He’s good the 2 things i said. There’s no threat of going to the house, you’re just hoping he wears the defense down.

I think part of the idea was go back to the year we drafted Beanie Wells, the goal was get him ready behind Hightower and then he takes over more work 2nd half of season. I suspect that was the original plan with Benson but we saw today he had the one really nice run but had a couple where he didn't hit the right hole and then the fumble where he didn't know what play we were running. Benson's just not far enough along yet to give Conner more breaks. I'm with the others saying we might want to activate Carter

 

[MrYeahBut]

i always wear cards gear on mondays after games - specially after losses but not tomorrow - my coworkers are going to trip out

Don't try and fool me, bruh! No way you have a job.. lolololol

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I'm with the others saying we might want to activate Carter

Bring him up to get reps until Benson figures it out

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I am super glad we didn't play in the preseason and establish consistency to save us from injury. That was the bestest

 

[DaHilg]

I think part of the idea was go back to the year we drafted Beanie Wells, the goal was get him ready behind Hightower and then he takes over more work 2nd half of season. I suspect that was the original plan with Benson but we saw today he had the one really nice run but had a couple where he didn't hit the right hole and then the fumble where he didn't know what play we were running. Benson's just not far enough along yet to give Conner more breaks. I'm with the others saying we might want to activate Carter

Why not ditch this style of offense ? It doesn’t work. We have scored less than 24pts 4 of 6 games and less than 14 pts in 3 of 6 games. Browns have yet to crack 18 pts in a game.

Our struggles on offense have NOT been QB play, but rather the scheme of our offense.

 

[Russ Smith]

Bring him up to get reps until Benson figures it out

Yeah I'm a Benson fan, loved him in college, but that fumble play lost it for me for now. I think it's clear now why he's not playing more because he doesn't have the plays down yet so they don't trust him. Kyler was moving him several times during the game.

 

[football karma]

i thought the offensive game plan was a overly conservative

again -- this weird game plan with no Kyler designed runs. There also HAS to be plays that look like read option but allow Kyler to throw the ball.

but while the offense wasnt good -- good grief this defense is bad.

Below average vs the run, terrible vs the pass. Its hard to watch QBs stand back there in a clean pocket with little pressure, especially little pressure from up the middle. The passer rating this defense gives up might be on track not just worst in the NFL, but historically bad.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Agreed w that.. but again it’s 2024. To have a plodder as the center piece of your offense is laughable. He’s good the 2 things i said. There’s no threat of going to the house, you’re just hoping he wears the defense down.

I see what you're saying. You have a point.

But our defense is so so bad.

Myths about TOP be dammed, we need to control the ball, and JC is the kind of back that can help an offense do that. Like you said, he can wear defenses down.

A bigger hole than RB, by far, is WR1.

I thought MHJ might come in in his rookie year and be something reasonably close to Fitz, something approaching Hopkins.

Has not happened.

We talked about real 1st class weapons around Murray. Right now it's McBride.

Conner is close but too hampered by the oline. MHJ not an NFL WR1 yet. Wilson and Dortch are okay, but not sure they start for 50% of other teams.

 

[Russ Smith]

Why not ditch this style of offense ? It doesn’t work. We have scored less than 24pts 4 of 6 games and less than 14 pts in 3 of 6 games. Browns have yet to crack 18 pts in a game.

Our struggles on offense have NOT been QB play, but rather the scheme of our offense.

I don't think we have the WR's. The year I'm talking about we had Larry and Anquan and Breaston and even Jerheme Urban. Marv would be the 3rd Wr on that team.

The plan was play 2 and 3 TE sets, run the ball. Problem is when you fall behind it's hard to play that way.

Maybe I'm wrong but there are signs how frustrated the staff is. Last week Benson didn't play now we know why, they didn't trust him knowing Kyler would have to change lots of plays. Today 2 plays after MHJ and Kyler weren't on the same page on the route, we lined up for a run play and had Wilson and Weaver in there, no Marv, he wasn't hurt yet and he certainly wasn't tired, my guess is they had him on the sideline showing him film or something.

 

[blindseyed]

Loser owner creates a loser franchise and a loser team, it's just pathetic yet again, glad he got those stupid Casita seating or whatever he calls em

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Benson looked like he was trying to block.. I knew that was gonna be busted when Kyler had to keep talking to him.

Yeah I mean Benson literally knocked the ball out of K1s hands on that play. Like he chopped at it. It was horrible.

 

[DaHilg]

I see what you're saying. You have a point.

But our defense is so so bad.

Myths about TOP be dammed, we need to control the ball, and JC is the kind of back that can help an offense do that. Like you said, he can wear defenses down.

A bigger hole than RB, by far, is WR1.

I thought MHJ might come in in his rookie year and be something reasonably close to Fitz, something approaching Hopkins.

Has not happened.

We talked about real 1st class weapons around Murray. Right now it's McBride.

Conner is close but too hampered by the oline. MHJ not an NFL WR1 yet. Wilson and Dortch are okay, but not sure they start for 50% of other teams.

I agree with all your takes here.. but in the offensive era of 2024 - who centers their offense are a 30 year old plodder? The fact is you’re not grinding out wins w 24 points or less in the board in this era. The rules aren’t structured in your favor that way nowadays.

Dortch and Wilson wouldn’t be starting for 90% of the teams in the NFL. Half the league has 1a and 1b WRs those guys are 4 and 5 WRs I have/had hopes of MW growth and it still may happen but today he isn’t a top 3 WR on any relevant team