Post Seahawks Overreaction Thread

[Proximo]

Kyler made 5 ot 6 terrible throws. Rattled, injured, frustrated or a combination of all three, his bad throws were some of the worst of his career. This throwing mechanics looks way off on those throws, which were all under pressure. I won't even say the pick 6 was the worst, for me it was over throwing a wide open McBride in the end zone. That would had made it 13-10 vs 13-6.

Your definition of sucked and mine aren't the same apparently.

I'm not saying he played well, I'm just saying he did not suck. 24/37 for 285 yards and 1 int is not a sucky performance.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Your definition of sucked and mine aren't the same apparently.

I'm not saying he played well, I'm just saying he did not suck. 24/37 for 285 yards and 1 int is not a sucky performance.

50 of those yards came on a totally meaningless final drive where the D rope and doped Kyler into throwing 5-7 yard passes in the middle of the field that did nothing but suck up the entire clock leaving us with no chance of tying even if we hit the long FG with seconds left. Throw in the fact that he threw for 0 TDs and led the team to a whopping 6 points against a bad D. Now throw in his absolute reticence to use his legs all game when opportunities were there and he most certainly sucked.

As did the entire offense.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Your definition of sucked and mine aren't the same apparently.

I'm not saying he played well, I'm just saying he did not suck. 24/37 for 285 yards and 1 int is not a sucky performance.

I believe the announcers said it was only the third game of Kyler's professional career without scoring a TD.

 

[kerouac9]

I wouldn’t rule out going OL on Day 2. Don’t think anybody should tbh.

Maybe, but we also have three OL draft picks waiting in the wings plus I think we could get Hernandez back at a bargain price. Some of those guys are gonna have to play at some point.

They have previously played down to their weaker opponents.

Who are you thinking about from this year? We dominated the Bears and the Jets; did we play down to the level of the Dolphins? I think they're kind of okay?

I’m also thinking Budda should be the priority. If JC wants to do a team-friendly contract and be a rotation guy so be it.

We were just overall so sloppy yesterday. So many little mistakes that added up.

It'll be interesting to see what the team is seeing from Benson during practice weeks. Is he ready to take over? Does he have the attitude to lead the offense? I don't know if there's going to be a huge market for Conner (maybe Kliff would bring him to Washington?).

I agree that Budda should be the priority. Especially if he makes it through 17 games healthy.

My only quibble would be a third WR. Dortch is a nice returner and gadget guy but a below average pass catcher. Obviously this is something that doesn’t require a huge financial investment.

We just don't throw to WRs or play them enough. Maybe Zay Jones gets unlocked in the next handful of games, but we were promised a "big year" for Dortch and it's been nothing.

 

[D-Dogg]

50 of those yards came on a totally meaningless final drive where the D rope and doped Kyler into throwing 5-7 yard passes in the middle of the field that did nothing but suck up the entire clock leaving us with no chance of tying even if we hit the long FG with seconds left. Throw in the fact that he threw for 0 TDs and led the team to a whopping 6 points against a bad D. Now throw in his absolute reticence to use his legs all game when opportunities were there and he most certainly sucked.

As did the entire offense.

I won't call them a bad D when they absolutely feasted on our oline, which previously had been an overperforming strength of the team. That was the most shocking part of the game, to me.

 

[kerouac9]

We’ll have cap room to do both offense and defense.

Not really. I'm not even thinking about free agency dollars; they're meaningless and there probably won't be difference-makers out there to spend them on. But pushing more draft capital into the offense at this point is a fool's errand.

He didn't suck. McBride doesn't have his best game of his career if Kyler sucked.

Could he have played better, and did he make a couple bad throws one of which cost us a pick 6 yeah. But he didn't suck.

The O-line was the biggest culprit to me.

LOL. Tons of bad QBs dump the ball off to their TE to get some meaningless yards short of the sticks. He sucked, bro.

 

[PJ1]

Dortch so disappointing and should be drawing weaker coverage. Why did we sign Zay Jones?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Dortch so disappointing and should be drawing weaker coverage. Why did we sign Zay Jones?

Better question is why didn’t we sign anyone better with all the cap room we had. This team could absolutely be further along this season without hamstringing the cap moving forward.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Not really. I'm not even thinking about free agency dollars; they're meaningless and there probably won't be difference-makers out there to spend them on. But pushing more draft capital into the offense at this point is a fool's errand.

I didn’t say anything about the draft so don’t put words in my mouth.

But the idea that we can’t go out and sign a solid #2 WR and that our space is meaningless is just a doom and gloom opinion that really isn’t worth discussing.

 

[Cheesebeef]

My biggest “overreaction” is being stunned by how unprepared the O was coming out of a bye week after rolling for the previous 4. The best teams are ready to roll post bye and it looked like we got smacked in the mouth early and just never recovered.

Still… it’s an overreaction to go totally sideways on the offensive coaching staff. They’re a young bunch and learning too. Just thought they may have turned a corner for good but this is gonna be a bit of a long and winding road moving forward.

 

[ajcardfan]

Dortch so disappointing and should be drawing weaker coverage. Why did we sign Zay Jones?

When you play three and two TEs as much as we do it's the WRs who lose out on opportunities. Zay is barely getting out there because 4 WR sets are almost unheard of in our offense so far this season.

 

[Stout]

Your definition of sucked and mine aren't the same apparently.

I'm not saying he played well, I'm just saying he did not suck. 24/37 for 285 yards and 1 int is not a sucky performance.

If you came away with the opinion he didn't suck in that game, you weren't paying attention.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves up..

-- Batman's Dad

 

[PDXChris]

If you came away with the opinion he didn't suck in that game, you weren't paying attention.

I am on of the biggest homers here and I can easily say he sucked yesterday. I think the only debate is why he sucked. I personally think he was rattled, then tweaked/hurt him hamstring and then reverted to frustrated Kyler.

Early game, Kyler and Tune looking at film. Kyler had the tablet in his hand.

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After halftime, Tune warming up with his helmet on and Kyler having his hamstring worked on between each series. Once he did feel comfortable running, which he was also trying to do in the side, he started making stupid decisions. This will the next step he needs to make, overcoming discomfort to make plays.

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[Crimson Warrior]

If you came away with the opinion he didn't suck in that game, you weren't paying attention.

If not for the interception, it wouldn't have been a "bad" game. But it would not have been good either. Rather just okay.

At least he saw McBride in the endzone but made a poor throw. I can live with that. Got a little unlucky on the Wilson TD called back, and also with the close call on the goal line throw to MHJ.

Under constant duress, Murray made a lot of nice throws yesterday (with the game still in doubt). Still, his rushing ability was a non-factor (either by scheme or by his choice) which is unacceptable.

Take out the pick six and I might give him a C+. But as it stands it was a solid "D" performance.

He'll be better at home vs. SEA though, I guarantee it!

 

[PDXChris]

Better question is why didn’t we sign anyone better with all the cap room we had. This team could absolutely be further along this season without hamstringing the cap moving forward.

Ridley would look so good on this unit right now. He is overpaid, but his contract ends as MHJ is up for an extension.

 

[football karma]

I believe that QBs get too much credit when things go well, too much blame when they dont

this might have been the worst game the OL had all year. No coincidence that regular pressure up the middle resulted in a bad day from Kyler

Kyler was just indecisive on too many plays -- especially when he had room to run. A couple times he got outside the pocket and instead of just running -- he kinda ran, kinda looked down field -- before finally going and costing him time /space / yardage.

 

[Stout]

If not for the interception, it wouldn't have been a "bad" game. But it would not have been good either. Rather just okay.

At least he saw McBride in the endzone but made a poor throw. I can live with that. Got a little unlucky on the Wilson TD called back, and also with the close call on the goal line throw to MHJ.

Under constant duress, Murray made a lot of nice throws yesterday (with the game still in doubt). Still, his rushing ability was a non-factor (either by scheme or by his choice) which is unacceptable.

Take out the pick six and I might give him a C+. But as it stands it was a solid "D" performance.

He'll be better at home vs. SEA though, I guarantee it!

Eh, I would disagree slightly. He was pressured way too much but he also caused several bad sacks all on his own. The one where Paris specifically pushed his man back and behind and Kyler backed right into the man was especially bad, as this was one of his awful tendencies in years past. Missing the hot read and sitting there to take the hit showed him to be clueless as to the play call and what the expectations were in that play. That's pretty bad. The unacceptable in several ways pick 6 cemented an F- grade. I would say without that play he'd still have been a solid D for those other reasons.

That said, he was not supported. Petzing sucked. There's a reason he grew skittish in the pocket, because the OL left him out to dry a lot as well.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Eh, I would disagree slightly. He was pressured way too much but he also caused several bad sacks all on his own. The one where Paris specifically pushed his man back and behind and Kyler backed right into the man was especially bad, as this was one of his awful tendencies in years past. Missing the hot read and sitting there to take the hit showed him to be clueless as to the play call and what the expectations were in that play. That's pretty bad. The unacceptable in several ways pick 6 cemented an F- grade. I would say without that play he'd still have been a solid D for those other reasons.

That said, he was not supported. Petzing sucked. There's a reason he grew skittish in the pocket, because the OL left him out to dry a lot as well.

F- ? You're a hard man Stout! Such inflammatory adjectives too (e.g. "clueless")!

But it's hard to conclude/imagine K1 did not get rattled some yesterday, which is anathema for an NFL QB.
I wrote in the pregame thread about this being an important data point for Kyler and the offense. They did not pass this test unfortunately.

Still, not the end of world. Not willing to concede the division to SEA.

Big big game in two weeks though Chief. If we let the hags sweep us, it will cast doubt of if the team will achieve some of the goals/objectives it set up at the beginning of the year.